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oogieogie
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3657 Posts
October 21 2012 18:59 GMT
#2421
On October 22 2012 03:58 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 03:54 DOUDOU wrote:
On October 22 2012 03:50 Chicane wrote:
On October 22 2012 03:47 trinxified wrote:
On October 22 2012 03:45 Asmodeusx wrote:
Since, vortex officially doesn't work, how does the Protoss win again?


Huh? Was vortex "fixed" or something?


Well it can still work, but zergs have been playing smarter.

Believe it or not, Zergs used to clump up all their broodlords even when they knew a mothership was coming, and even when they knew that the mothership was the only way the protoss would win. It was so ridiculous. The protoss could be a bit behind, and the zerg would refuse to spread their broodlords anyway, even though it was a basic micro requirement.

Well long story short, nothing has changed balance wise with vortex, but instead of zergs playing like idiots, they learned to adapt, and now vortex is weak.

It is like when banelings were used against marines initially. People were saying they were OP, but then terrans started to spread their marines and win battles against them, rather than just sitting there and taking the banelings to the face. Balance can change because of the metagame.

in a few years when people will have learn to split their units preemptively like the zergs do with broodlords, maybe we won't have people bitching about fungals anymore


Nah, they will just cry about it. Like how zergs cried about the early game so queens got buffed.

The early game was stupid though for zergs. I mean there was probably a 11/11 for every TvZ series.
GaliX
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany380 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-21 19:00:20
October 21 2012 18:59 GMT
#2422
On October 22 2012 03:55 Snusmumriken wrote:
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On October 22 2012 03:50 hitpoint wrote:
On October 22 2012 03:49 Snusmumriken wrote:
ok not going to bother watching a zvz. Most boring dreamhack ever.


It's better than zvp..


that is true.


not true. I turned the stream off, i dont care how nercio wins this.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
October 21 2012 19:00 GMT
#2423
On October 22 2012 03:59 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 03:57 oogieogie wrote:
On October 22 2012 03:55 SarcasmMonster wrote:
On October 22 2012 03:52 oogieogie wrote:
On October 22 2012 03:50 TheHova wrote:
On October 22 2012 03:49 oogieogie wrote:
every single fucking tournament is now just people bitching about zerg..so annoying

-___________________________________-


Maybe there's a reason behind it ?

i don't care the reason when its just stupid to see now. If I am on a tournament thread for r/starcraft then it is just bitching about terran being weak/zerg op/protoss gimicky or now on TL it is just the same thing.


What's the point of LR threads if not for bitching? It's the only reason I participate.

enjoying the games? seeing/commentating on good plays? eagles?

Only eagles the rest of what you said is outright wrong.

so awkward when someone is so wrong
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
October 21 2012 19:01 GMT
#2424
On October 22 2012 03:57 oogieogie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 03:55 SarcasmMonster wrote:
On October 22 2012 03:52 oogieogie wrote:
On October 22 2012 03:50 TheHova wrote:
On October 22 2012 03:49 oogieogie wrote:
every single fucking tournament is now just people bitching about zerg..so annoying

-___________________________________-


Maybe there's a reason behind it ?

i don't care the reason when its just stupid to see now. If I am on a tournament thread for r/starcraft then it is just bitching about terran being weak/zerg op/protoss gimicky or now on TL it is just the same thing.


What's the point of LR threads if not for bitching? It's the only reason I participate.

enjoying the games? seeing/commentating on good plays? eagles?


Pointing out everything that is awkward and calling what is not awkward awkward.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
TheHova
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United Kingdom2612 Posts
October 21 2012 19:01 GMT
#2425
On October 22 2012 03:58 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 03:54 DOUDOU wrote:
On October 22 2012 03:50 Chicane wrote:
On October 22 2012 03:47 trinxified wrote:
On October 22 2012 03:45 Asmodeusx wrote:
Since, vortex officially doesn't work, how does the Protoss win again?


Huh? Was vortex "fixed" or something?


Well it can still work, but zergs have been playing smarter.

Believe it or not, Zergs used to clump up all their broodlords even when they knew a mothership was coming, and even when they knew that the mothership was the only way the protoss would win. It was so ridiculous. The protoss could be a bit behind, and the zerg would refuse to spread their broodlords anyway, even though it was a basic micro requirement.

Well long story short, nothing has changed balance wise with vortex, but instead of zergs playing like idiots, they learned to adapt, and now vortex is weak.

It is like when banelings were used against marines initially. People were saying they were OP, but then terrans started to spread their marines and win battles against them, rather than just sitting there and taking the banelings to the face. Balance can change because of the metagame.

in a few years when people will have learn to split their units preemptively like the zergs do with broodlords, maybe we won't have people bitching about fungals anymore


Nah, they will just cry about it. Like how zergs cried about the early game so queens got buffed.


And Hellions so they got nerfed. And 2 rax so it got nerfed. And proxy rax before depot so it got nerfed. and 4gate so it got nerfed. And blink all in so it got nerfed. And the ability to hide tech so overlords got buffed. The list goes on...

Seriously, half the nerfs were based on Zergs complaining about the early game. Now there's barely any threat early game for them at all and they have an unbeatable late game army when they get to it.
Chuggles
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom16 Posts
October 21 2012 19:01 GMT
#2426
Man really good games and production on this - haven't watched tourneys in a while but this might make me follow tourneys more :DD
oops
TiTanIum_
Profile Joined August 2011
Brazil1335 Posts
October 21 2012 19:01 GMT
#2427
Quick Bly, make the chair rush!
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
October 21 2012 19:01 GMT
#2428
Ah, he said something? I only get a frozen Redeye on my stream and then five seconds later a frozen Redeye in a different place.
oogieogie
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3657 Posts
October 21 2012 19:02 GMT
#2429
On October 22 2012 04:01 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 03:57 oogieogie wrote:
On October 22 2012 03:55 SarcasmMonster wrote:
On October 22 2012 03:52 oogieogie wrote:
On October 22 2012 03:50 TheHova wrote:
On October 22 2012 03:49 oogieogie wrote:
every single fucking tournament is now just people bitching about zerg..so annoying

-___________________________________-


Maybe there's a reason behind it ?

i don't care the reason when its just stupid to see now. If I am on a tournament thread for r/starcraft then it is just bitching about terran being weak/zerg op/protoss gimicky or now on TL it is just the same thing.


What's the point of LR threads if not for bitching? It's the only reason I participate.

enjoying the games? seeing/commentating on good plays? eagles?


Pointing out everything that is awkward and calling what is not awkward awkward.

oh duh awkward ceremonys/interviews, and overeacting to friends joking with each other.
dizzy101
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2066 Posts
October 21 2012 19:02 GMT
#2430
Now, that is some good sponsor representation.

ACER vs ACER
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
October 21 2012 19:02 GMT
#2431
On October 22 2012 04:01 StarVe wrote:
Ah, he said something? I only get a frozen Redeye on my stream and then five seconds later a frozen Redeye in a different place.

He said "Liquipedia Rocks" before the interviews begun
EZ4ENCE
Avean
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Norway449 Posts
October 21 2012 19:02 GMT
#2432
They really need to change that entrance music "Big Bad Wolf" which Dreamhack are using every single time. Its the most ackward piece of music ive ever heard. Its not fitting at all. You need some epic entrance music not this.
krutopatkin
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany2612 Posts
October 21 2012 19:03 GMT
#2433
On October 22 2012 04:01 StarVe wrote:
Ah, he said something? I only get a frozen Redeye on my stream and then five seconds later a frozen Redeye in a different place.


try http://www.svtplay.se/live/302249/dreamhack-eizo-open-bukarest
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
October 21 2012 19:03 GMT
#2434
On October 22 2012 04:02 oogieogie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 04:01 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On October 22 2012 03:57 oogieogie wrote:
On October 22 2012 03:55 SarcasmMonster wrote:
On October 22 2012 03:52 oogieogie wrote:
On October 22 2012 03:50 TheHova wrote:
On October 22 2012 03:49 oogieogie wrote:
every single fucking tournament is now just people bitching about zerg..so annoying

-___________________________________-


Maybe there's a reason behind it ?

i don't care the reason when its just stupid to see now. If I am on a tournament thread for r/starcraft then it is just bitching about terran being weak/zerg op/protoss gimicky or now on TL it is just the same thing.


What's the point of LR threads if not for bitching? It's the only reason I participate.

enjoying the games? seeing/commentating on good plays? eagles?


Pointing out everything that is awkward and calling what is not awkward awkward.

oh duh awkward ceremonys/interviews, and overeacting to friends joking with each other.

HOLY FUCK THAT WAS SO AWKWARD.
Glorious SEA doto
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
October 21 2012 19:04 GMT
#2435
The question is, are they gonna go full LOL and split the prize pool? ;-))
Skelith
Profile Joined August 2012
Sweden101 Posts
October 21 2012 19:04 GMT
#2436
On October 22 2012 04:02 Avean wrote:
They really need to change that entrance music "Big Bad Wolf" which Dreamhack are using every single time. Its the most ackward piece of music ive ever heard. Its not fitting at all. You need some epic entrance music not this.


I like it, howl*~
"There is no rest in the dark realm."
Corsica
Profile Joined February 2011
Ukraine1854 Posts
October 21 2012 19:04 GMT
#2437
Acer are very happy now lol
oogieogie
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3657 Posts
October 21 2012 19:04 GMT
#2438
On October 22 2012 04:01 TheHova wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 03:58 vthree wrote:
On October 22 2012 03:54 DOUDOU wrote:
On October 22 2012 03:50 Chicane wrote:
On October 22 2012 03:47 trinxified wrote:
On October 22 2012 03:45 Asmodeusx wrote:
Since, vortex officially doesn't work, how does the Protoss win again?


Huh? Was vortex "fixed" or something?


Well it can still work, but zergs have been playing smarter.

Believe it or not, Zergs used to clump up all their broodlords even when they knew a mothership was coming, and even when they knew that the mothership was the only way the protoss would win. It was so ridiculous. The protoss could be a bit behind, and the zerg would refuse to spread their broodlords anyway, even though it was a basic micro requirement.

Well long story short, nothing has changed balance wise with vortex, but instead of zergs playing like idiots, they learned to adapt, and now vortex is weak.

It is like when banelings were used against marines initially. People were saying they were OP, but then terrans started to spread their marines and win battles against them, rather than just sitting there and taking the banelings to the face. Balance can change because of the metagame.

in a few years when people will have learn to split their units preemptively like the zergs do with broodlords, maybe we won't have people bitching about fungals anymore


Nah, they will just cry about it. Like how zergs cried about the early game so queens got buffed.


And Hellions so they got nerfed. And 2 rax so it got nerfed. And proxy rax before depot so it got nerfed. and 4gate so it got nerfed. And blink all in so it got nerfed. And the ability to hide tech so overlords got buffed. The list goes on...

Seriously, half the nerfs were based on Zergs complaining about the early game. Now there's barely any threat early game for them at all and they have an unbeatable late game army when they get to it.

A lot of that was so fucking deserved nerfs cmon..blue flame hellion anaheim, proxy rax before deport to just die, and nobody liked 4gate PvP or all in.

Also this unbeatable late game army is beaten a lot.
scoww
Profile Joined June 2012
595 Posts
October 21 2012 19:05 GMT
#2439
On October 22 2012 03:49 oogieogie wrote:
every single fucking tournament is now just people bitching about zerg..so annoying

-___________________________________-

sorry that people want to see good games, not that NR20 turtle behind 129039123 spines and tech to unbeatable army shit, that pvz is. Dont get me wrong, Im not blaming the players, they play to win. but it doesnt really make for interesting games (in most cases)
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
October 21 2012 19:05 GMT
#2440
On October 22 2012 04:03 krutopatkin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 04:01 StarVe wrote:
Ah, he said something? I only get a frozen Redeye on my stream and then five seconds later a frozen Redeye in a different place.


try http://www.svtplay.se/live/302249/dreamhack-eizo-open-bukarest

Oh, wow, thank you, works like a charm!
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