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On October 22 2012 03:47 Anonymous_Coward wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 03:45 Asmodeusx wrote: Since, vortex officially doesn't work, how does the Protoss win again? You can go and buy HoTS coming soon to stores near you. It's almost like they're deliberately leaving WoL in a pretty poor state.
I know a lot of guys around here who won't buy HotS because of this stupid policy...what stops Blizzard from doing the exact same thing with HotS and LotV?
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On October 22 2012 03:50 Chicane wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 03:47 trinxified wrote:On October 22 2012 03:45 Asmodeusx wrote: Since, vortex officially doesn't work, how does the Protoss win again? Huh? Was vortex "fixed" or something? Well it can still work, but zergs have been playing smarter. Believe it or not, Zergs used to clump up all their broodlords even when they knew a mothership was coming, and even when they knew that the mothership was the only way the protoss would win. It was so ridiculous. The protoss could be a bit behind, and the zerg would refuse to spread their broodlords anyway, even though it was a basic micro requirement. Well long story short, nothing has changed balance wise with vortex, but instead of zergs playing like idiots, they learned to adapt, and now vortex is weak. It is like when banelings were used against marines initially. People were saying they were OP, but then terrans started to spread their marines and win battles against them, rather than just sitting there and taking the banelings to the face. Balance can change because of the metagame.
FALSE.
"Protoss
Units leaving the Mothership's Vortex are now un-targetable and immune to damage for 1.5 seconds.
This was another case that we viewed as more of a bug fix than a balance change. The original concept of Vortex was that it was more than just a stasis or a lockdown. In addition to having the protoss player lock down a part of his or her opponent’s army, the spell was supposed to also be about creating situations for enemy interaction with the Vortex.
For example: If I'm playing zerg and half of my army was Vortexed, I may decide to put the remaining half into the Vortex. Conversely, I could choose to simply sacrifice half of my units instead and run with the rest if greatly outnumbered by the protoss opponent. However, there was a bug in which splash units instantly killed everything coming out of a Vortex, preventing the different types of interactions we originally intended."
---Patch 1.3
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Patch_1.3.0
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I expect Nerchio to outplay Bly in muta vs muta games.
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On October 22 2012 03:50 hitpoint wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 03:49 Snusmumriken wrote: ok not going to bother watching a zvz. Most boring dreamhack ever. It's better than zvp..
that is true.
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On October 22 2012 03:52 oogieogie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 03:50 TheHova wrote:On October 22 2012 03:49 oogieogie wrote: every single fucking tournament is now just people bitching about zerg..so annoying
-___________________________________- Maybe there's a reason behind it ? i don't care the reason when its just stupid to see now. If I am on a tournament thread for r/starcraft then it is just bitching about terran being weak/zerg op/protoss gimicky or now on TL it is just the same thing.
What's the point of LR threads if not for bitching? It's the only reason I participate.
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On October 22 2012 03:55 SarcasmMonster wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 03:52 oogieogie wrote:On October 22 2012 03:50 TheHova wrote:On October 22 2012 03:49 oogieogie wrote: every single fucking tournament is now just people bitching about zerg..so annoying
-___________________________________- Maybe there's a reason behind it ? i don't care the reason when its just stupid to see now. If I am on a tournament thread for r/starcraft then it is just bitching about terran being weak/zerg op/protoss gimicky or now on TL it is just the same thing. What's the point of LR threads if not for bitching? It's the only reason I participate.
Live Reporting?
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Might actually be a really good final. ZvZ can sometimes be quite epic and these 2 are team mates so they probalby know each other's style inside out.
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Mana - Dimaga, Nerchio - Bly, Poland - Ukraine Finals again. Nice job guys.
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On October 22 2012 03:55 SarcasmMonster wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 03:52 oogieogie wrote:On October 22 2012 03:50 TheHova wrote:On October 22 2012 03:49 oogieogie wrote: every single fucking tournament is now just people bitching about zerg..so annoying
-___________________________________- Maybe there's a reason behind it ? i don't care the reason when its just stupid to see now. If I am on a tournament thread for r/starcraft then it is just bitching about terran being weak/zerg op/protoss gimicky or now on TL it is just the same thing. What's the point of LR threads if not for bitching? It's the only reason I participate.
yo dawg, I heard you like bitchin so Im bitchin about yo bitchin so you can bitch about me bitchin about yo bitchin.
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On October 22 2012 03:54 DOUDOU wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 03:50 Chicane wrote:On October 22 2012 03:47 trinxified wrote:On October 22 2012 03:45 Asmodeusx wrote: Since, vortex officially doesn't work, how does the Protoss win again? Huh? Was vortex "fixed" or something? Well it can still work, but zergs have been playing smarter. Believe it or not, Zergs used to clump up all their broodlords even when they knew a mothership was coming, and even when they knew that the mothership was the only way the protoss would win. It was so ridiculous. The protoss could be a bit behind, and the zerg would refuse to spread their broodlords anyway, even though it was a basic micro requirement. Well long story short, nothing has changed balance wise with vortex, but instead of zergs playing like idiots, they learned to adapt, and now vortex is weak. It is like when banelings were used against marines initially. People were saying they were OP, but then terrans started to spread their marines and win battles against them, rather than just sitting there and taking the banelings to the face. Balance can change because of the metagame. in a few years when people will have learn to split their units preemptively like the zergs do with broodlords, maybe we won't have people bitching about fungals anymore
. Fungal radius is bigger than Storm/EMP ( WHY EXACTLY ? ) and Zerg's ususally have tons of Infestors not just 2 like Vortexes . Even hitting 3-4 Units with a Fungal is worth it in most vases.
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On October 22 2012 03:54 WindWolf wrote:Wop is the new Wup, according to DH Astonishing discovery :o
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On October 22 2012 03:55 SarcasmMonster wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 03:52 oogieogie wrote:On October 22 2012 03:50 TheHova wrote:On October 22 2012 03:49 oogieogie wrote: every single fucking tournament is now just people bitching about zerg..so annoying
-___________________________________- Maybe there's a reason behind it ? i don't care the reason when its just stupid to see now. If I am on a tournament thread for r/starcraft then it is just bitching about terran being weak/zerg op/protoss gimicky or now on TL it is just the same thing. What's the point of LR threads if not for bitching? It's the only reason I participate. enjoying the games? seeing/commentating on good plays? eagles?
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What's the name of the song when Taeja won in Valencia?
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On October 22 2012 03:54 DOUDOU wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 03:50 Chicane wrote:On October 22 2012 03:47 trinxified wrote:On October 22 2012 03:45 Asmodeusx wrote: Since, vortex officially doesn't work, how does the Protoss win again? Huh? Was vortex "fixed" or something? Well it can still work, but zergs have been playing smarter. Believe it or not, Zergs used to clump up all their broodlords even when they knew a mothership was coming, and even when they knew that the mothership was the only way the protoss would win. It was so ridiculous. The protoss could be a bit behind, and the zerg would refuse to spread their broodlords anyway, even though it was a basic micro requirement. Well long story short, nothing has changed balance wise with vortex, but instead of zergs playing like idiots, they learned to adapt, and now vortex is weak. It is like when banelings were used against marines initially. People were saying they were OP, but then terrans started to spread their marines and win battles against them, rather than just sitting there and taking the banelings to the face. Balance can change because of the metagame. in a few years when people will have learn to split their units preemptively like the zergs do with broodlords, maybe we won't have people bitching about fungals anymore
Nah, they will just cry about it. Like how zergs cried about the early game so queens got buffed.
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3 of 4 strongest foreigner zergs in one team
AcerBly AcerNerchio AcerScarlett
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On October 22 2012 03:54 DOUDOU wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 03:50 Chicane wrote:On October 22 2012 03:47 trinxified wrote:On October 22 2012 03:45 Asmodeusx wrote: Since, vortex officially doesn't work, how does the Protoss win again? Huh? Was vortex "fixed" or something? Well it can still work, but zergs have been playing smarter. Believe it or not, Zergs used to clump up all their broodlords even when they knew a mothership was coming, and even when they knew that the mothership was the only way the protoss would win. It was so ridiculous. The protoss could be a bit behind, and the zerg would refuse to spread their broodlords anyway, even though it was a basic micro requirement. Well long story short, nothing has changed balance wise with vortex, but instead of zergs playing like idiots, they learned to adapt, and now vortex is weak. It is like when banelings were used against marines initially. People were saying they were OP, but then terrans started to spread their marines and win battles against them, rather than just sitting there and taking the banelings to the face. Balance can change because of the metagame. in a few years when people will have learn to split their units preemptively like the zergs do with broodlords, maybe we won't have people bitching about fungals anymore splitting is only good vs lings/infestors not if there are a bunch of roaches
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On October 22 2012 03:58 wildstyle1337 wrote: 3 of 4 strongest foreigner zergs in one team
AcerBly AcerNerchio AcerScarlett That might be a bit exaggerated but they sure are a great Zerg team.
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"Liquipedia Rocks" - Redeye!
Sure it does!
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On October 22 2012 03:57 oogieogie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 03:55 SarcasmMonster wrote:On October 22 2012 03:52 oogieogie wrote:On October 22 2012 03:50 TheHova wrote:On October 22 2012 03:49 oogieogie wrote: every single fucking tournament is now just people bitching about zerg..so annoying
-___________________________________- Maybe there's a reason behind it ? i don't care the reason when its just stupid to see now. If I am on a tournament thread for r/starcraft then it is just bitching about terran being weak/zerg op/protoss gimicky or now on TL it is just the same thing. What's the point of LR threads if not for bitching? It's the only reason I participate. enjoying the games? seeing/commentating on good plays? eagles? Only eagles the rest of what you said is outright wrong.
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