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If DRG is smart, he will be anticipating something very aggressive from MC. Honestly that may just be the best course of action for MC anyway hehe :D
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On October 16 2012 20:18 Heavenlee wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2012 20:16 ImNightmare wrote:On October 16 2012 20:16 Heavenlee wrote:On October 16 2012 20:15 ImNightmare wrote:On October 16 2012 20:15 stephenrau wrote:On October 16 2012 20:14 ImNightmare wrote:On October 16 2012 20:13 Megabuster123 wrote:On October 16 2012 20:10 Qikz wrote:
They need to increase the infestors supply by two or something to stop that happening. That was impossible for MC to win at that point. :\
I really hope HoTS beta fixes late game PvZ, I have a horrible feeling the OSL finals will be ruined by it otherwise. If they did that zergs would only be winning zvz..>_> Besides, at that point in the late game DRG would've won with half the infestors he had. The problem with PvZ is that you can't kill the deathball without an Overpowered infestor, and protoss can't do anything except deathball. I reiterate my point, I am cool with a late game zerg nerf but we MUST have a mid game buff for that or we are just fucked. I think Broodlords at 5 supply would be fair. And a mid game buff? What would you suggest? Why would raising supply for broodlords require a mid-game buff? Lol...colossi are 6, and I'd much rather have a broodlord over a colossus. Because a late game nerfs needs a mid game buff. How many times must we say that? Zerg wins in z v p comes mostly from late game. Fuck our late game and we need a better mid game. And please, everyone would agree colossus is so much better then a broodlord. you mean, how many times must you say it without making any sense? Why would there be a mid-game buff for a SUPPLY CHANGE for a unit so that you can have less of it, since it's clearly a problem? That has no effect on anything instead of making the overpowered late-game more manageable.
5 supply means less broodlords. Less broodlords means less of a army. You seem to think supply is a small problem but zerg is the swarm race. We aren't like toss with big supplies but equally big fire power. We are weak unless we have the numbers. You don't make sense because you think zerg is op, I think z v p needs a redesign for both races to have options in every stage of the game. big difference.
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On October 16 2012 20:16 ImNightmare wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2012 20:16 Heavenlee wrote:On October 16 2012 20:15 ImNightmare wrote:On October 16 2012 20:15 stephenrau wrote:On October 16 2012 20:14 ImNightmare wrote:On October 16 2012 20:13 Megabuster123 wrote:On October 16 2012 20:10 Qikz wrote:
They need to increase the infestors supply by two or something to stop that happening. That was impossible for MC to win at that point. :\
I really hope HoTS beta fixes late game PvZ, I have a horrible feeling the OSL finals will be ruined by it otherwise. If they did that zergs would only be winning zvz..>_> Besides, at that point in the late game DRG would've won with half the infestors he had. The problem with PvZ is that you can't kill the deathball without an Overpowered infestor, and protoss can't do anything except deathball. I reiterate my point, I am cool with a late game zerg nerf but we MUST have a mid game buff for that or we are just fucked. I think Broodlords at 5 supply would be fair. And a mid game buff? What would you suggest? Why would raising supply for broodlords require a mid-game buff? Lol...colossi are 6, and I'd much rather have a broodlord over a colossus. Because a late game nerfs needs a mid game buff. How many times must we say that? Zerg wins in z v p comes mostly from late game. Fuck our late game and we need a better mid game. And please, everyone would agree colossus is so much better then a broodlord.
Making brood lords 6 supply or nerfing infestors wouldn't fuck late game it would just make it actually fair lol. Sif Zerg needs a mid game buff with how strong and free roaches are. Mutas are great too
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What is MCs Never Forget-Poster about?  Anyone?
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On October 16 2012 20:19 dainbramage wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2012 20:16 ImNightmare wrote:
Because a late game nerfs needs a mid game buff. How many times must we say that? Zerg wins in z v p comes mostly from late game. Fuck our late game and we need a better mid game. And please, everyone would agree colossus is so much better then a broodlord. Zergs wanting to go lategame doesn't mean that their midgame is weak. Hypothetically (with the source of numbers being my arse), if you had a 50% chance to win ending it midgame or 80% lategame, why would you ever play to win in the midgame?
Please do play zerg before thinking we can end it at midgame when the most fucked up strategy toss has against zerg is the mid game immortal sentry all in.
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On October 16 2012 20:19 X3GoldDot wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2012 20:18 Heavenlee wrote:On October 16 2012 20:16 ImNightmare wrote:On October 16 2012 20:16 Heavenlee wrote:On October 16 2012 20:15 ImNightmare wrote:On October 16 2012 20:15 stephenrau wrote:On October 16 2012 20:14 ImNightmare wrote:On October 16 2012 20:13 Megabuster123 wrote:On October 16 2012 20:10 Qikz wrote:
They need to increase the infestors supply by two or something to stop that happening. That was impossible for MC to win at that point. :\
I really hope HoTS beta fixes late game PvZ, I have a horrible feeling the OSL finals will be ruined by it otherwise. If they did that zergs would only be winning zvz..>_> Besides, at that point in the late game DRG would've won with half the infestors he had. The problem with PvZ is that you can't kill the deathball without an Overpowered infestor, and protoss can't do anything except deathball. I reiterate my point, I am cool with a late game zerg nerf but we MUST have a mid game buff for that or we are just fucked. I think Broodlords at 5 supply would be fair. And a mid game buff? What would you suggest? Why would raising supply for broodlords require a mid-game buff? Lol...colossi are 6, and I'd much rather have a broodlord over a colossus. Because a late game nerfs needs a mid game buff. How many times must we say that? Zerg wins in z v p comes mostly from late game. Fuck our late game and we need a better mid game. And please, everyone would agree colossus is so much better then a broodlord. you mean, how many times must you say it without making any sense? Why would there be a mid-game buff for a SUPPLY CHANGE for a unit so that you can have less of it, since it's clearly a problem? That has no effect on anything instead of making the overpowered late-game more manageable. then make sentries or immortals cost more supply, because like that it will even out and immortalsentry wont have a 80% winrate or something.
...80%? Get real -.-
also how could you possibly nerf immortal/sentry like that without totally ruining it in all other scenarios?
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On October 16 2012 20:20 ImNightmare wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2012 20:18 Heavenlee wrote:On October 16 2012 20:16 ImNightmare wrote:On October 16 2012 20:16 Heavenlee wrote:On October 16 2012 20:15 ImNightmare wrote:On October 16 2012 20:15 stephenrau wrote:On October 16 2012 20:14 ImNightmare wrote:On October 16 2012 20:13 Megabuster123 wrote:On October 16 2012 20:10 Qikz wrote:
They need to increase the infestors supply by two or something to stop that happening. That was impossible for MC to win at that point. :\
I really hope HoTS beta fixes late game PvZ, I have a horrible feeling the OSL finals will be ruined by it otherwise. If they did that zergs would only be winning zvz..>_> Besides, at that point in the late game DRG would've won with half the infestors he had. The problem with PvZ is that you can't kill the deathball without an Overpowered infestor, and protoss can't do anything except deathball. I reiterate my point, I am cool with a late game zerg nerf but we MUST have a mid game buff for that or we are just fucked. I think Broodlords at 5 supply would be fair. And a mid game buff? What would you suggest? Why would raising supply for broodlords require a mid-game buff? Lol...colossi are 6, and I'd much rather have a broodlord over a colossus. Because a late game nerfs needs a mid game buff. How many times must we say that? Zerg wins in z v p comes mostly from late game. Fuck our late game and we need a better mid game. And please, everyone would agree colossus is so much better then a broodlord. you mean, how many times must you say it without making any sense? Why would there be a mid-game buff for a SUPPLY CHANGE for a unit so that you can have less of it, since it's clearly a problem? That has no effect on anything instead of making the overpowered late-game more manageable. 5 supply means less broodlords. Less broodlords means less of a army. You seem to think supply is a small problem but zerg is the swarm race. We aren't like toss with big supplies but equally big fire power. We are weak unless we have the numbers. You don't make sense because you think zerg is op, I think z v p needs a redesign for both races to have options in every stage of the game. big difference.
Less brood lords means more balance :D
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On October 16 2012 20:16 X3GoldDot wrote:
honestly MC and DRG are pretty meh as players chosen to face the ultimate kespa player lol..... sad that theres no true TOPPPPPPPPPPPPP tier players like MVP or taeja to go for the ultimate finals
Yeah if only a player who beat Taeja twice recently was in this series, no who could that be?
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On October 16 2012 20:20 MateShade wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2012 20:16 ImNightmare wrote:On October 16 2012 20:16 Heavenlee wrote:On October 16 2012 20:15 ImNightmare wrote:On October 16 2012 20:15 stephenrau wrote:On October 16 2012 20:14 ImNightmare wrote:On October 16 2012 20:13 Megabuster123 wrote:On October 16 2012 20:10 Qikz wrote:
They need to increase the infestors supply by two or something to stop that happening. That was impossible for MC to win at that point. :\
I really hope HoTS beta fixes late game PvZ, I have a horrible feeling the OSL finals will be ruined by it otherwise. If they did that zergs would only be winning zvz..>_> Besides, at that point in the late game DRG would've won with half the infestors he had. The problem with PvZ is that you can't kill the deathball without an Overpowered infestor, and protoss can't do anything except deathball. I reiterate my point, I am cool with a late game zerg nerf but we MUST have a mid game buff for that or we are just fucked. I think Broodlords at 5 supply would be fair. And a mid game buff? What would you suggest? Why would raising supply for broodlords require a mid-game buff? Lol...colossi are 6, and I'd much rather have a broodlord over a colossus. Because a late game nerfs needs a mid game buff. How many times must we say that? Zerg wins in z v p comes mostly from late game. Fuck our late game and we need a better mid game. And please, everyone would agree colossus is so much better then a broodlord. Making brood lords 6 supply or nerfing infestors wouldn't fuck late game it would just make it actually fair lol. Sif Zerg needs a mid game buff with how strong and free roaches are. Mutas are great too
if zerg is as good as you think why does protoss have a higher winrate against zerg then??, id trust david kim and dustin browder for balance more than someone like you tbh.
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What is surprising to me about the crowd, is that GOM studio is always packed when important matches happen. I don't know why OSL is empty :-/ There is a public in Korea for sc2, not as high as bw or LoL, but there is one. But it looks like no one bothers to go to OSL studio.
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On October 16 2012 20:21 MateShade wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2012 20:20 ImNightmare wrote:On October 16 2012 20:18 Heavenlee wrote:On October 16 2012 20:16 ImNightmare wrote:On October 16 2012 20:16 Heavenlee wrote:On October 16 2012 20:15 ImNightmare wrote:On October 16 2012 20:15 stephenrau wrote:On October 16 2012 20:14 ImNightmare wrote:On October 16 2012 20:13 Megabuster123 wrote:On October 16 2012 20:10 Qikz wrote:
They need to increase the infestors supply by two or something to stop that happening. That was impossible for MC to win at that point. :\
I really hope HoTS beta fixes late game PvZ, I have a horrible feeling the OSL finals will be ruined by it otherwise. If they did that zergs would only be winning zvz..>_> Besides, at that point in the late game DRG would've won with half the infestors he had. The problem with PvZ is that you can't kill the deathball without an Overpowered infestor, and protoss can't do anything except deathball. I reiterate my point, I am cool with a late game zerg nerf but we MUST have a mid game buff for that or we are just fucked. I think Broodlords at 5 supply would be fair. And a mid game buff? What would you suggest? Why would raising supply for broodlords require a mid-game buff? Lol...colossi are 6, and I'd much rather have a broodlord over a colossus. Because a late game nerfs needs a mid game buff. How many times must we say that? Zerg wins in z v p comes mostly from late game. Fuck our late game and we need a better mid game. And please, everyone would agree colossus is so much better then a broodlord. you mean, how many times must you say it without making any sense? Why would there be a mid-game buff for a SUPPLY CHANGE for a unit so that you can have less of it, since it's clearly a problem? That has no effect on anything instead of making the overpowered late-game more manageable. 5 supply means less broodlords. Less broodlords means less of a army. You seem to think supply is a small problem but zerg is the swarm race. We aren't like toss with big supplies but equally big fire power. We are weak unless we have the numbers. You don't make sense because you think zerg is op, I think z v p needs a redesign for both races to have options in every stage of the game. big difference. Less brood lords means more balance :D
I am sorry but I am really not interested in discussing with a player who thinks his losses comes from imbalance instead of admitting he just suck. Good day to you sir.
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On October 16 2012 20:20 ImNightmare wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2012 20:18 Heavenlee wrote:On October 16 2012 20:16 ImNightmare wrote:On October 16 2012 20:16 Heavenlee wrote:On October 16 2012 20:15 ImNightmare wrote:On October 16 2012 20:15 stephenrau wrote:On October 16 2012 20:14 ImNightmare wrote:On October 16 2012 20:13 Megabuster123 wrote:On October 16 2012 20:10 Qikz wrote:
They need to increase the infestors supply by two or something to stop that happening. That was impossible for MC to win at that point. :\
I really hope HoTS beta fixes late game PvZ, I have a horrible feeling the OSL finals will be ruined by it otherwise. If they did that zergs would only be winning zvz..>_> Besides, at that point in the late game DRG would've won with half the infestors he had. The problem with PvZ is that you can't kill the deathball without an Overpowered infestor, and protoss can't do anything except deathball. I reiterate my point, I am cool with a late game zerg nerf but we MUST have a mid game buff for that or we are just fucked. I think Broodlords at 5 supply would be fair. And a mid game buff? What would you suggest? Why would raising supply for broodlords require a mid-game buff? Lol...colossi are 6, and I'd much rather have a broodlord over a colossus. Because a late game nerfs needs a mid game buff. How many times must we say that? Zerg wins in z v p comes mostly from late game. Fuck our late game and we need a better mid game. And please, everyone would agree colossus is so much better then a broodlord. you mean, how many times must you say it without making any sense? Why would there be a mid-game buff for a SUPPLY CHANGE for a unit so that you can have less of it, since it's clearly a problem? That has no effect on anything instead of making the overpowered late-game more manageable. 5 supply means less broodlords. Less broodlords means less of a army. You seem to think supply is a small problem but zerg is the swarm race. We aren't like toss with big supplies but equally big fire power. We are weak unless we have the numbers. You don't make sense because you think zerg is op, I think z v p needs a redesign for both races to have options in every stage of the game. big difference.
...that's the point, the army at full-size is too strong. And no, it's clearly not the swarm race and it clearly is like toss with big supplies and big fire power since broodlord/infestor is strong. How can you look at infestor/broodlord and say "swarm race" that "has to have numbers" lmao. When was the last time it actually mattered how carefully zerg balanced out their number of corruptors of broodlords? Just have a ton of each with a lot of infestors and you're good to go.
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On October 16 2012 20:21 MateShade wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2012 20:20 ImNightmare wrote:On October 16 2012 20:18 Heavenlee wrote:On October 16 2012 20:16 ImNightmare wrote:On October 16 2012 20:16 Heavenlee wrote:On October 16 2012 20:15 ImNightmare wrote:On October 16 2012 20:15 stephenrau wrote:On October 16 2012 20:14 ImNightmare wrote:On October 16 2012 20:13 Megabuster123 wrote:On October 16 2012 20:10 Qikz wrote:
They need to increase the infestors supply by two or something to stop that happening. That was impossible for MC to win at that point. :\
I really hope HoTS beta fixes late game PvZ, I have a horrible feeling the OSL finals will be ruined by it otherwise. If they did that zergs would only be winning zvz..>_> Besides, at that point in the late game DRG would've won with half the infestors he had. The problem with PvZ is that you can't kill the deathball without an Overpowered infestor, and protoss can't do anything except deathball. I reiterate my point, I am cool with a late game zerg nerf but we MUST have a mid game buff for that or we are just fucked. I think Broodlords at 5 supply would be fair. And a mid game buff? What would you suggest? Why would raising supply for broodlords require a mid-game buff? Lol...colossi are 6, and I'd much rather have a broodlord over a colossus. Because a late game nerfs needs a mid game buff. How many times must we say that? Zerg wins in z v p comes mostly from late game. Fuck our late game and we need a better mid game. And please, everyone would agree colossus is so much better then a broodlord. you mean, how many times must you say it without making any sense? Why would there be a mid-game buff for a SUPPLY CHANGE for a unit so that you can have less of it, since it's clearly a problem? That has no effect on anything instead of making the overpowered late-game more manageable. 5 supply means less broodlords. Less broodlords means less of a army. You seem to think supply is a small problem but zerg is the swarm race. We aren't like toss with big supplies but equally big fire power. We are weak unless we have the numbers. You don't make sense because you think zerg is op, I think z v p needs a redesign for both races to have options in every stage of the game. big difference. Less brood lords means more balance :D
What can you possibly be unable to accomplish with 25 BL's that you could do with 30? Also just make 20 spine crawler tricks or so when you're maxed and you'll never notice the difference.
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On October 16 2012 20:18 X3GoldDot wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2012 20:17 Dodgin wrote:On October 16 2012 20:16 X3GoldDot wrote:
honestly MC and DRG are pretty meh as players chosen to face the ultimate kespa player lol..... sad that theres no true TOPPPPPPPPPPPPP tier players like MVP or taeja to go for the ultimate finals drg and mc are not top tier players? come on now MC, definitly not with how shitty hes playing atm, losing to alive 2-0 and stuff, DRG is still pretty good but there are still better players. they are both top tier on theory but really, they arent doing as good as they were atm.
MC is doing pretty well, other than his loss to alive ;o
DRG doesn't play in much right now but he looks pretty good too I think.
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On October 16 2012 20:21 MateShade wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2012 20:20 ImNightmare wrote:On October 16 2012 20:18 Heavenlee wrote:On October 16 2012 20:16 ImNightmare wrote:On October 16 2012 20:16 Heavenlee wrote:On October 16 2012 20:15 ImNightmare wrote:On October 16 2012 20:15 stephenrau wrote:On October 16 2012 20:14 ImNightmare wrote:On October 16 2012 20:13 Megabuster123 wrote:On October 16 2012 20:10 Qikz wrote:
They need to increase the infestors supply by two or something to stop that happening. That was impossible for MC to win at that point. :\
I really hope HoTS beta fixes late game PvZ, I have a horrible feeling the OSL finals will be ruined by it otherwise. If they did that zergs would only be winning zvz..>_> Besides, at that point in the late game DRG would've won with half the infestors he had. The problem with PvZ is that you can't kill the deathball without an Overpowered infestor, and protoss can't do anything except deathball. I reiterate my point, I am cool with a late game zerg nerf but we MUST have a mid game buff for that or we are just fucked. I think Broodlords at 5 supply would be fair. And a mid game buff? What would you suggest? Why would raising supply for broodlords require a mid-game buff? Lol...colossi are 6, and I'd much rather have a broodlord over a colossus. Because a late game nerfs needs a mid game buff. How many times must we say that? Zerg wins in z v p comes mostly from late game. Fuck our late game and we need a better mid game. And please, everyone would agree colossus is so much better then a broodlord. you mean, how many times must you say it without making any sense? Why would there be a mid-game buff for a SUPPLY CHANGE for a unit so that you can have less of it, since it's clearly a problem? That has no effect on anything instead of making the overpowered late-game more manageable. 5 supply means less broodlords. Less broodlords means less of a army. You seem to think supply is a small problem but zerg is the swarm race. We aren't like toss with big supplies but equally big fire power. We are weak unless we have the numbers. You don't make sense because you think zerg is op, I think z v p needs a redesign for both races to have options in every stage of the game. big difference. Less brood lords means more balance :D
The Broodlord isn't whats imbalanced about lategame Zerg. It's literally just the infestor.
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On October 16 2012 20:21 MateShade wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2012 20:20 ImNightmare wrote:On October 16 2012 20:18 Heavenlee wrote:On October 16 2012 20:16 ImNightmare wrote:On October 16 2012 20:16 Heavenlee wrote:On October 16 2012 20:15 ImNightmare wrote:On October 16 2012 20:15 stephenrau wrote:On October 16 2012 20:14 ImNightmare wrote:On October 16 2012 20:13 Megabuster123 wrote:On October 16 2012 20:10 Qikz wrote:
They need to increase the infestors supply by two or something to stop that happening. That was impossible for MC to win at that point. :\
I really hope HoTS beta fixes late game PvZ, I have a horrible feeling the OSL finals will be ruined by it otherwise. If they did that zergs would only be winning zvz..>_> Besides, at that point in the late game DRG would've won with half the infestors he had. The problem with PvZ is that you can't kill the deathball without an Overpowered infestor, and protoss can't do anything except deathball. I reiterate my point, I am cool with a late game zerg nerf but we MUST have a mid game buff for that or we are just fucked. I think Broodlords at 5 supply would be fair. And a mid game buff? What would you suggest? Why would raising supply for broodlords require a mid-game buff? Lol...colossi are 6, and I'd much rather have a broodlord over a colossus. Because a late game nerfs needs a mid game buff. How many times must we say that? Zerg wins in z v p comes mostly from late game. Fuck our late game and we need a better mid game. And please, everyone would agree colossus is so much better then a broodlord. you mean, how many times must you say it without making any sense? Why would there be a mid-game buff for a SUPPLY CHANGE for a unit so that you can have less of it, since it's clearly a problem? That has no effect on anything instead of making the overpowered late-game more manageable. 5 supply means less broodlords. Less broodlords means less of a army. You seem to think supply is a small problem but zerg is the swarm race. We aren't like toss with big supplies but equally big fire power. We are weak unless we have the numbers. You don't make sense because you think zerg is op, I think z v p needs a redesign for both races to have options in every stage of the game. big difference. Less brood lords means more balance :D
im starting to believe you clearly dont understand how good immortal sentries are, which absolutely skews the balance of mid or late game
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Yey! Bbyong won in GSL! Back to OSL.
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On October 16 2012 20:22 Heavenlee wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2012 20:20 ImNightmare wrote:On October 16 2012 20:18 Heavenlee wrote:On October 16 2012 20:16 ImNightmare wrote:On October 16 2012 20:16 Heavenlee wrote:On October 16 2012 20:15 ImNightmare wrote:On October 16 2012 20:15 stephenrau wrote:On October 16 2012 20:14 ImNightmare wrote:On October 16 2012 20:13 Megabuster123 wrote:On October 16 2012 20:10 Qikz wrote:
They need to increase the infestors supply by two or something to stop that happening. That was impossible for MC to win at that point. :\
I really hope HoTS beta fixes late game PvZ, I have a horrible feeling the OSL finals will be ruined by it otherwise. If they did that zergs would only be winning zvz..>_> Besides, at that point in the late game DRG would've won with half the infestors he had. The problem with PvZ is that you can't kill the deathball without an Overpowered infestor, and protoss can't do anything except deathball. I reiterate my point, I am cool with a late game zerg nerf but we MUST have a mid game buff for that or we are just fucked. I think Broodlords at 5 supply would be fair. And a mid game buff? What would you suggest? Why would raising supply for broodlords require a mid-game buff? Lol...colossi are 6, and I'd much rather have a broodlord over a colossus. Because a late game nerfs needs a mid game buff. How many times must we say that? Zerg wins in z v p comes mostly from late game. Fuck our late game and we need a better mid game. And please, everyone would agree colossus is so much better then a broodlord. you mean, how many times must you say it without making any sense? Why would there be a mid-game buff for a SUPPLY CHANGE for a unit so that you can have less of it, since it's clearly a problem? That has no effect on anything instead of making the overpowered late-game more manageable. 5 supply means less broodlords. Less broodlords means less of a army. You seem to think supply is a small problem but zerg is the swarm race. We aren't like toss with big supplies but equally big fire power. We are weak unless we have the numbers. You don't make sense because you think zerg is op, I think z v p needs a redesign for both races to have options in every stage of the game. big difference. ...that's the point, the army at full-size is too strong. And no, it's clearly not the swarm race and it clearly is like toss with big supplies and big fire power since broodlord/infestor is strong. How can you look at infestor/broodlord and say "swarm race" that "has to have numbers" lmao. When was the last time it actually mattered how carefully zerg balanced out their number of corruptors of broodlords? Just have a ton of each with a lot of infestors and you're good to go.
When the win rates is higher for zerg against toss and more then 0.9% against terran then we can say zerg is "too strong". Rather then the whining of random players, I am sure the win rates speak for themselves.
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What about this for a late game fix: give Phoenix splash damage, similar to the Corsair from the original SC?
That way, Protoss don't need to build a huge ball of stalkers as the only counter to a huge pack of broodlords.
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On October 16 2012 20:22 ImNightmare wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2012 20:21 MateShade wrote:On October 16 2012 20:20 ImNightmare wrote:On October 16 2012 20:18 Heavenlee wrote:On October 16 2012 20:16 ImNightmare wrote:On October 16 2012 20:16 Heavenlee wrote:On October 16 2012 20:15 ImNightmare wrote:On October 16 2012 20:15 stephenrau wrote:On October 16 2012 20:14 ImNightmare wrote:On October 16 2012 20:13 Megabuster123 wrote:
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If they did that zergs would only be winning zvz..>_>
Besides, at that point in the late game DRG would've won with half the infestors he had. The problem with PvZ is that you can't kill the deathball without an Overpowered infestor, and protoss can't do anything except deathball. I reiterate my point, I am cool with a late game zerg nerf but we MUST have a mid game buff for that or we are just fucked. I think Broodlords at 5 supply would be fair. And a mid game buff? What would you suggest? Why would raising supply for broodlords require a mid-game buff? Lol...colossi are 6, and I'd much rather have a broodlord over a colossus. Because a late game nerfs needs a mid game buff. How many times must we say that? Zerg wins in z v p comes mostly from late game. Fuck our late game and we need a better mid game. And please, everyone would agree colossus is so much better then a broodlord. you mean, how many times must you say it without making any sense? Why would there be a mid-game buff for a SUPPLY CHANGE for a unit so that you can have less of it, since it's clearly a problem? That has no effect on anything instead of making the overpowered late-game more manageable. 5 supply means less broodlords. Less broodlords means less of a army. You seem to think supply is a small problem but zerg is the swarm race. We aren't like toss with big supplies but equally big fire power. We are weak unless we have the numbers. You don't make sense because you think zerg is op, I think z v p needs a redesign for both races to have options in every stage of the game. big difference. Less brood lords means more balance :D I am sorry but I am really not interested in discussing with a player who thinks his losses comes from imbalance instead of admitting he just suck. Good day to you sir.
I play random, and Zerg is freaking easy, maybe you shouldn't assume things
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