EPT[OSL] RO16 Day 2 - Page 107
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Diizzy
United States828 Posts
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19338 Posts
On August 30 2012 00:04 Sinedd wrote: sorry for asking without reading the whole thread but its 106 pages long so.. why wasnt Oz vs Last played ? also - Kespa players doing awesome !!! :D nice ! It's in the OP. | ||
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SHOOG
United States1639 Posts
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ArvickHero
10387 Posts
Well shit, if this was BW instead (yea yea I know, shut up) and it was the eSF players switching over, I guarantee they wouldn't be able to take off more than a single series from the top 30 KeSPA BW pros within the same time frame, same advantages and all. Not even the most talented B-teamers, who played years before becoming one, take at least a year to break into the A-team and start taking games off the more experienced pros. I could probably make the same case for a LoL team switching to DoTA 2, or vice versa. Experience should count for something | ||
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]343[
United States10328 Posts
On August 29 2012 23:55 stratmatt wrote: these broodwar pros are even less interesting than most korean sc2 pros, sadly. both in their play and in their personality. people acting like its a huge deal they started the game so late when it really isnt. they have 2+ years worth of replays and vods to study of all the best existing sc2 players while gsl players have almost nothing to go on when preparing for a bw player. put that into a bo1 format and you will get upsets, its not like these kespa guys cant 'keep up' in the mechanics department anyways, they just have en edge in preperation for a bo1. Such a strong, well-formed argument! I'll use it with kespa replaced with sc2 and esf with non-sc2 (ha, the irony!) sc2 is even less interesting than bw, sadly. both in its play and its personality. people acting like its a huge deal that sc2 is so young when really it isnt. they have 10+ years worth of progaming and history to study of all the best existing esports while bw players had almost nothing to go on in the early 2000s. give sc2 10 years of esports history with blizzard subsidies and you will see bw being upset by sc2, its not like sc2 can 'keep up' in the mechanics department anyways, they just have an edge by existing later than bw. See how strong the argument is? | ||
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GregMandel
France822 Posts
On August 29 2012 23:44 letian wrote: Since BW players stepped in, the explanations and excuses for GSL losses started pouring like warm summer rain. Should I navigate you through the forum threads? Elephant victories were of course unexpected, not welcome by SC2 community and there is nothing strange about it. It is a natural reaction. Try to bear with the fact that some of us, like me especially, are still hobbling along with an old bag of memories, which we are trying to give a second life. Why would SC2 fans be mad about the fact that there are players of legend doing well ? Don't generalize, I'm a big SC2 fan and I only watched BW in 2009, and you don't even know how happy I am about the fact that these players are doing well, it brings new tensions and makes it a lot more interesting to watch It's just some fanboys who are mad at seing their fav players losing to some "rookies", otherwise I think most of us SC2 fans are okay, and even happy with all these old new players crushing nerds ! :p | ||
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-visnu-
Australia149 Posts
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]343[
United States10328 Posts
On August 30 2012 00:04 Sinedd wrote: sorry for asking without reading the whole thread but its 106 pages long so.. why wasnt Oz vs Last played ? also - Kespa players doing awesome !!! :D nice ! typhoon bolaven delayed the flight. | ||
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Condor Hero
United States2931 Posts
On August 29 2012 23:55 stratmatt wrote: these broodwar pros are even less interesting than most korean sc2 pros, sadly. both in their play and in their personality. people acting like its a huge deal they started the game so late when it really isnt. they have 2+ years worth of replays and vods to study of all the best existing sc2 players while gsl players have almost nothing to go on when preparing for a bw player. put that into a bo1 format and you will get upsets, its not like these kespa guys cant 'keep up' in the mechanics department anyways, they just have en edge in preperation for a bo1. Based on your logic, Code A/B randoms should be able to regularly take games off Code S players because of 2+ years worth of replays and vods to study correct? | ||
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.vid
Croatia227 Posts
i wonder why all your gsl champions didn't make it in brood war, some of them started in 2007, so that means that they had 7+ years of tactics, replays, etc all panned out for them. | ||
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
On August 30 2012 00:17 GregMandel wrote: Why would SC2 fans be mad about the fact that there are players of legend doing well ? Don't generalize, I'm a big SC2 fan and I only watched BW in 2009, and you don't even know how happy I am about the fact that these players are doing well, it brings new tensions and makes it a lot more interesting to watch It's just some fanboys who are mad at seing their fav players losing to some "rookies", otherwise I think most of us SC2 fans are okay, and even happy with all these old new players crushing nerds ! :p Most of our current top players are from BW anyway. Seriously in time people that didn't follow BW will grow fond of these guys doing well in SC2 because they are entertaining and most of our favorite players will find a way to remain in the spotlight. Either they are good enough(Dongraegu, Parting) or knowlegdable enough(Nestea coaching Jaedong in Sc2?). | ||
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noddy
United Kingdom927 Posts
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xrapture
United States1644 Posts
On August 30 2012 00:20 .vid wrote: to people talkin like 2+ yrs of being behind in sc2 ain't a big thing, since they had all the replays, etc... thanks for sayin that sc2 is a shit easy game where every scrub could get good at in no time. i wonder why all your gsl champions didn't make it in brood war, some of them started in 2007, so that means that they had 7+ years of tactics, replays, etc all panned out for them. The BW fans know the truth lol. Everyone else were the people scoffing at the Elephant in the room article. | ||
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lannisport
878 Posts
On August 29 2012 21:16 KiNGxXx wrote: Mirror matchups are the only indicator for who is better: This guy must've not seen Effort vs DRG. Effort outcontrolled DRG who has a zvz win rate of 70% in the best bling ling battle to date. | ||
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Louuster
Canada2869 Posts
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.vid
Croatia227 Posts
On August 30 2012 00:29 xrapture wrote: The BW fans know the truth lol. Everyone else were the people scoffing at the Elephant in the room article. no, i'm quite serious here and would like an answer, if that argument is correct (being 2yrs behind means nothing cause everyone else developed tactics, etc for them and theres a lot of replays, vods, lala) then why didn't any of your sc2 gods (mc including) become relevant in brood war, seeing how late they entered the scene, they had all the tactics and metagame planned out and developed for them by someone else? | ||
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letian
Germany4221 Posts
On August 29 2012 23:55 stratmatt wrote: these broodwar pros are even less interesting than most korean sc2 pros, sadly. both in their play and in their personality. people acting like its a huge deal they started the game so late when it really isnt. they have 2+ years worth of replays and vods to study of all the best existing sc2 players while gsl players have almost nothing to go on when preparing for a bw player. put that into a bo1 format and you will get upsets, its not like these kespa guys cant 'keep up' in the mechanics department anyways, they just have en edge in preperation for a bo1. I think I shall use your post every time when BW player wins a match to troll the fukc out of everyone. | ||
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Boonbag
France3318 Posts
its really getting old | ||
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xrapture
United States1644 Posts
On August 30 2012 00:33 .vid wrote: no, i'm quite serious here and would like an answer, if that argument is correct (being 2yrs behind means nothing cause everyone else developed tactics, etc for them and theres a lot of replays, vods, lala) then why didn't any of your sc2 gods (mc including) become relevant in brood war, seeing how late they entered the scene, they had all the tactics and metagame planned out and developed for them by someone else? Because BW is 10x harder mechanically and no matter what they studied they weren't going to beat great BW players. | ||
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NoGasfOu
United States1117 Posts
A win is a win. | ||
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