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Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
August 29 2012 13:48 GMT
#2081
On August 29 2012 22:19 KiNGxXx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 22:17 Alryk wrote:
Why did oz not play?

Oz's flight from the US was delayed for the typhoon.



Thanks!
Team Liquid, IM, ViOlet!
Sroobz
Profile Joined December 2011
United States1377 Posts
August 29 2012 13:48 GMT
#2082
On August 29 2012 22:31 usethis2 wrote:
And MVP, WTF, he did his usual predictable stuff with way sub-par execution.


Rofl wat
Flash---Taeja---Mvp---Byun---DRG
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
August 29 2012 13:49 GMT
#2083
Protoss players are doing really freaking well in Korea at the moment. If 2011 was the year of terran in Korea then 2012 is shaping up to be the year of Protoss.

Will "Korean Protoss" be the new scary thing? I feel like there are almost more scary protoss players from there than terran now.
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
August 29 2012 13:51 GMT
#2084
On August 29 2012 22:49 bittman wrote:
Protoss players are doing really freaking well in Korea at the moment. If 2011 was the year of terran in Korea then 2012 is shaping up to be the year of Protoss.

Will "Korean Protoss" be the new scary thing? I feel like there are almost more scary protoss players from there than terran now.


Just wait until they can shoot from halfway across the map ^_^

I NEED A PHOTOSYNTHESIS! ||| 'airtoss' is an anagram of 'artosis' ||| SANGHOOOOOO ||| "No Korea? No problem. I have internet." -- Stardust
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
August 29 2012 13:58 GMT
#2085
On August 29 2012 22:51 mikedebo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 22:49 bittman wrote:
Protoss players are doing really freaking well in Korea at the moment. If 2011 was the year of terran in Korea then 2012 is shaping up to be the year of Protoss.

Will "Korean Protoss" be the new scary thing? I feel like there are almost more scary protoss players from there than terran now.


Just wait until they can shoot from halfway across the map ^_^



That won't happen in 2012 I think though!
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
insanet
Profile Joined January 2010
Peru439 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-29 14:01:33
August 29 2012 13:59 GMT
#2086
Wow nice results. in the other hand, hilarious excuses for every ESF player, keep them coming guys, real classy.
N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-29 14:08:56
August 29 2012 14:08 GMT
#2087
On August 29 2012 22:46 ElephantBaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 22:43 usethis2 wrote:
Out of curiosity, what's the prize money of this event?


I believe OSL prize for champion is usually 40 million Korean won, a bit over $35,000. Runner-up gets 20 million.


Yeah, OSL prize pool is around 100 million - 106 million KRW for a few years at least (40 mill first, 20 mill second)
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ElephantBaby
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1365 Posts
August 29 2012 14:18 GMT
#2088
On August 29 2012 23:08 N.geNuity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 22:46 ElephantBaby wrote:
On August 29 2012 22:43 usethis2 wrote:
Out of curiosity, what's the prize money of this event?


I believe OSL prize for champion is usually 40 million Korean won, a bit over $35,000. Runner-up gets 20 million.


Yeah, OSL prize pool is around 100 million - 106 million KRW for a few years at least (40 mill first, 20 mill second)


They should increase the prize though. It has been like this for several years, no increase.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10127 Posts
August 29 2012 14:20 GMT
#2089
On August 29 2012 21:58 chisuri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 21:51 Godwrath wrote:
On August 29 2012 21:50 chisuri wrote:
On August 29 2012 21:48 Godwrath wrote:
On August 29 2012 21:45 chisuri wrote:
On August 29 2012 21:43 Godwrath wrote:
On August 29 2012 21:42 Megaliskuu wrote:
On August 29 2012 21:42 torm3ntin wrote:
On August 29 2012 21:39 ElephantBaby wrote:
On August 29 2012 21:36 Denzil wrote:
like i said yesterday

BO1 format is awful don't see why the don't change it to Bo3


Please stop complaining about this, this is not gonna change in at least one year into future.


What is the point of stoping to complain?

You guys should understand that SC2 is a more volatile game. This is not SC1 where the best player will most likely win any match.

I do understand that OGN is an expert when it comes to SC1 but you can't come here (not you specifically) and tell the ppl to shut up because OGN knows better than anyone else. That is plain false. They don't know about sc2 and they are learning through it.


Thats a problem with the game itself then, not OGNs.


Now you stopped making sense.

He made sense. If a game is better OGN doesn't need to change anything. The game is bad so OGN needs to change but it can't. So you will see a bad game, and no way out of that. And it's not OGN's fault.


But they may want to fix it, right ? Which in the end is THEIR problem because they choose to do SC2. I know why they will keep the format btw.

Which part of "OGN can't change it...temporarily at least" you don't understand?


Which part confused you to believe i don't already know that?

What kind of logic that makes you keep asking for confirmation that KESPA wants to change the format of the terrible nature of SC2 when I does say it in my reply that you quote?


Because i didn't say that. At all. Re-read the quotes if you are getting confused before trying to answer that way.
MistSC2
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden583 Posts
August 29 2012 14:23 GMT
#2090
Suprised Mvp and MKP lost, didnt see the games though were they close?
Maru, TY, Clem <3
Talack
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada2742 Posts
August 29 2012 14:23 GMT
#2091
On August 29 2012 22:59 insanet wrote:
Wow nice results. in the other hand, hilarious excuses for every ESF player, keep them coming guys, real classy.


What excuses are so funny?

You've got pages and pages of people commentating on how MKP looks like he's going to have a heart-attack whenever they pan to him and you could see his play reflecting his nerves-issue plain as day.

Nobody made excuses for MVP, he got himself into an bad position with his build and from there didn't have the right upgrades to compete with the protoss.

Nobody is giving a shit about the BW guys besides the BW fans who need to legitimize their game, the sc2 fans are excited to watch a new crop of players come in. You guys need to stop being douche bags cause it doesn't look good in the least bit.
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
August 29 2012 14:26 GMT
#2092
On August 29 2012 23:18 ElephantBaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 23:08 N.geNuity wrote:
On August 29 2012 22:46 ElephantBaby wrote:
On August 29 2012 22:43 usethis2 wrote:
Out of curiosity, what's the prize money of this event?


I believe OSL prize for champion is usually 40 million Korean won, a bit over $35,000. Runner-up gets 20 million.


Yeah, OSL prize pool is around 100 million - 106 million KRW for a few years at least (40 mill first, 20 mill second)


They should increase the prize though. It has been like this for several years, no increase.


Who plays for money? Its all the glory of winning an StarLeague. If you win a tournament your salary automatically increases multifold.
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rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
August 29 2012 14:27 GMT
#2093
On August 29 2012 23:26 Xiphos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 23:18 ElephantBaby wrote:
On August 29 2012 23:08 N.geNuity wrote:
On August 29 2012 22:46 ElephantBaby wrote:
On August 29 2012 22:43 usethis2 wrote:
Out of curiosity, what's the prize money of this event?


I believe OSL prize for champion is usually 40 million Korean won, a bit over $35,000. Runner-up gets 20 million.


Yeah, OSL prize pool is around 100 million - 106 million KRW for a few years at least (40 mill first, 20 mill second)


They should increase the prize though. It has been like this for several years, no increase.


Who plays for money? Its all the glory of winning an StarLeague. If you win a tournament your salary automatically increases multifold.


esf players don't make kespa player salaries haha
The Notorious Winkles
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-29 14:32:49
August 29 2012 14:30 GMT
#2094
On August 29 2012 23:23 Talack wrote:
Nobody is giving a shit about the BW guys besides the BW fans who need to legitimize their game, the sc2 fans are excited to watch a new crop of players come in. You guys need to stop being douche bags cause it doesn't look good in the least bit.

SC2's the game that's getting legitimized with the BW influx. BW has nothing to prove and a lot to teach.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13032 Posts
August 29 2012 14:32 GMT
#2095
Looks like I havent missed much in the past 2 days.

At least the Kespa guys are doing much better.
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
raf3776
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1904 Posts
August 29 2012 14:36 GMT
#2096
nooooooo!! MKP and MVP T.T
WWJD (What Would Jaedong Do)
Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-29 14:47:21
August 29 2012 14:37 GMT
#2097
--- Nuked ---
NuKE[vZ]
Profile Joined July 2012
United States249 Posts
August 29 2012 14:39 GMT
#2098
Bo1 is the ultimate mind game... people are really stupid.


These guys practiced for a week or 2 for these matches... they learned every build the opponent does and their patterns. It's basically a counter vs. counter and players change stuff up mid game because they notice they're getting countered. Not to mention you have to play your heart out because you have no chance to come back, better player always wins in Bo1. Bo3 has more to do with who is lucky, who cheeses, etc.

SniXSniPe
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1938 Posts
August 29 2012 14:43 GMT
#2099
Someone explain to me why this is a Bo1 instead of a Bo3?

This doesn't even last an hour sometimes, does it? 4 1v1 games is not a lot.
ElephantBaby
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1365 Posts
August 29 2012 14:43 GMT
#2100
On August 29 2012 23:37 monkybone wrote:
I just feel the need to rationalize this blow...

MKP had the game, he had an insane advantage due to excellent banshee control and macro behind it. Then, he felt the game was won, and actually killing his opponent was merely a formality. He tried to drop which got shut down badly due to miscontrol. He then got stuck to the though of attacking Rain up front, and after several bad engagements they got about even. After that, he got dropped, and I don't think he had the watch tower at that moment, so he didn't see the protoss army moving towards his 4th proceeding to kill all his ghosts. Overconfidence in his position lost MKP the game.

MvP figured Protoss would go standard with his scouting, but even with 2 sentries he didn't go nexus, he went robo. Really non-standard build, and it completely tricked mvp, who had gone fast 3 CC's. I feel like the Protoss could have killed MvP if he had followed up with 2-3 more gates rather than the nexus, but he decided just to pressure, and with the bunkers barely not going up he managed to get a good position down the ramp, allowing the warped in zealots to kill a substantial amount of scvs. Honestly, I think the Protoss build was risky, and if mvp had built the bunkers seconds earlier, mvp would have won that game easily. This was bad luck for mvp, and the game was basically lost after that.



Always hate this kind of "what if" analysis. They made mistakes because of opponents' decision and disguises.

And no need to rationalize, it is just one game. With the small skill gaps among top Koreans, anything can happen, especially when KeSPA players have much better preparation scheme than GSL guys.

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