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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 25 2012 11:41 GMT
#501
We need to tell Taeja and Mvp to stop winning things so Terran can get their Raven speed buff.
Mentalizor
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark1596 Posts
August 25 2012 11:42 GMT
#502
On August 25 2012 20:39 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 20:38 Mentalizor wrote:
On August 25 2012 20:36 MangoMountain wrote:
On August 25 2012 20:32 TheDougler wrote:
On August 25 2012 20:28 Mentalizor wrote:
Once again a failed 6pool comes out ahead in ZvP... this matchup just isn't working


To be fair, it's especially bad on tal darim altar.

...but yeah that matchup is getting kinda silly now

6 pool on taldarim is almost standard, nothing to do with the matchup


Sure... TDA is horrible for the zerg player... But that doesn't justify a 6pool gone horribly wrong turning into an even game - where the zerg actually wins.

But it's okay for a zerg to get up 6 bases, tech and power drones without any opposition?


There's a difference. This is the race design. This will happen no matter who they are against. That's how zerg works.
My main issue is ZvP, where the protoss has no way of punishing the 6 pool before either 3/4 gate (which is somewhat all in) or attack after expanding... Making the zerg take advantage of his racemechanics making him able to catch up without having to deal with anything (well sure... 1-2 zlots and 1 stalker, but come on...)

Please notice how often you see a ZvP 6pool that doesn't do too much dmg where the zerg still turn the game around with little to no effort
(yಠ,ಠ)y - Y U NO ALL IN? - rtsAlaran: " I somehow sit inside the bus.Hot_Bit giving me a massage"
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 25 2012 11:42 GMT
#503
Hearing the tone of their voices and how they listen I get the feeling wolf and khaldor are massive parting fanboys. Don't blame them though.
Glorious SEA doto
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
August 25 2012 11:43 GMT
#504
Tal'Darim in a PvP.
4-gate vs. 4-gate incoming.
EZ4ENCE
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 25 2012 11:43 GMT
#505
oh god map 2 4gate
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
August 25 2012 11:43 GMT
#506
wohoo we're gonna have Tal'Darim PvP ^^

back to 2011
X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
August 25 2012 11:43 GMT
#507
good guy creator
prime/startale/[SexComaZerg, RoyalRoaderZerg, SirLifealot] ingame ID = GoodGame
Mentalizor
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark1596 Posts
August 25 2012 11:44 GMT
#508
On August 25 2012 20:41 Laryleprakon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 20:39 Rhedsa wrote:
soooo... at the Battle.net World Championship there likely will a Protoss or Zerg-Winner... terrans really struggeling lately if they're not MVP. Let's see if MKP has a shot this MLG at least.


Taeja has been playing pretty ok as well


Being a protoss player I think I can be (somewhat) objective... Yeah, terran players are really struggling lately.
Taeja and MVP should just stop winning so DaKim was forced to act
(yಠ,ಠ)y - Y U NO ALL IN? - rtsAlaran: " I somehow sit inside the bus.Hot_Bit giving me a massage"
Rhedsa
Profile Joined July 2011
Costa Rica594 Posts
August 25 2012 11:44 GMT
#509
On August 25 2012 20:41 Laryleprakon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 20:39 Rhedsa wrote:
soooo... at the Battle.net World Championship there likely will a Protoss or Zerg-Winner... terrans really struggeling lately if they're not MVP. Let's see if MKP has a shot this MLG at least.


Taeja has been playing pretty ok as well


Ah, for sure! But he won't be at WCS to give us some epic TvZ/Ps or Blizzard donates some seeds for better entertainment.
ShroudeD
Profile Joined August 2012
Greece1333 Posts
August 25 2012 11:44 GMT
#510
I like 4 gate vs 4 gate more than laser battle
Mvp,Fantasy 4ever
Rah
Profile Joined February 2010
United States973 Posts
August 25 2012 11:44 GMT
#511
On the first ladder maps I get that people were eager to see macro games and hated seeing every game end with early aggression, but isn't it equally as silly watching zergs get up to broodlords by default? Broodwar was entertaining because it had a mix of both going on.
Streaming on twitch. http://www.twitch.tv/rahsun86
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
August 25 2012 11:44 GMT
#512
I can't wait for game three in the actual finals to be on TDA :D
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 25 2012 11:45 GMT
#513
I'm actually excited to see a 4 gate vs 4 gate micro battle, much more fun than laser wars.
MangoMountain
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2044 Posts
August 25 2012 11:46 GMT
#514
On August 25 2012 20:38 Mentalizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 20:36 MangoMountain wrote:
On August 25 2012 20:32 TheDougler wrote:
On August 25 2012 20:28 Mentalizor wrote:
Once again a failed 6pool comes out ahead in ZvP... this matchup just isn't working


To be fair, it's especially bad on tal darim altar.

...but yeah that matchup is getting kinda silly now

6 pool on taldarim is almost standard, nothing to do with the matchup


Sure... TDA is horrible for the zerg player... But that doesn't justify a 6pool gone horribly wrong turning into an even game - where the zerg actually wins.

I didn't see the opening, but usually when you open 6 pool on tda it's to deny the ffe and force the toss back on 1 base with the first lings while powering drones behind it, it's not a kill move
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
August 25 2012 11:46 GMT
#515
On August 25 2012 20:44 Rhedsa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 20:41 Laryleprakon wrote:
On August 25 2012 20:39 Rhedsa wrote:
soooo... at the Battle.net World Championship there likely will a Protoss or Zerg-Winner... terrans really struggeling lately if they're not MVP. Let's see if MKP has a shot this MLG at least.


Taeja has been playing pretty ok as well


Ah, for sure! But he won't be at WCS to give us some epic TvZ/Ps or Blizzard donates some seeds for better entertainment.

It's ok, we'll get to enjoy lots of Spine Crawler walls, Infestors and many lasers.

Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
August 25 2012 11:48 GMT
#516
TDA PvP is classic
Bisu - INnoVation - Dark - Rogue - Stats
Rhedsa
Profile Joined July 2011
Costa Rica594 Posts
August 25 2012 11:49 GMT
#517
On August 25 2012 20:46 MangoMountain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 20:38 Mentalizor wrote:
On August 25 2012 20:36 MangoMountain wrote:
On August 25 2012 20:32 TheDougler wrote:
On August 25 2012 20:28 Mentalizor wrote:
Once again a failed 6pool comes out ahead in ZvP... this matchup just isn't working


To be fair, it's especially bad on tal darim altar.

...but yeah that matchup is getting kinda silly now

6 pool on taldarim is almost standard, nothing to do with the matchup


Sure... TDA is horrible for the zerg player... But that doesn't justify a 6pool gone horribly wrong turning into an even game - where the zerg actually wins.

I didn't see the opening, but usually when you open 6 pool on tda it's to deny the ffe and force the toss back on 1 base with the first lings while powering drones behind it, it's not a kill move


Yeah, I liked Curious for doing a 6pool on TDA, simply because a normal 2base push by protoss can hit you harder because your 3rd was late or is far away... instead you can take down those stupid rocks with plenty of lings... although a 6-7 Gate could have ended the game earlier.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 25 2012 11:51 GMT
#518
Creator does this build so often, gets 2gates, stargate, robo then expands and plays defensively I wonder if there's any way to abuse that.
Glorious SEA doto
frontline-
Profile Joined March 2012
Bulgaria281 Posts
August 25 2012 11:51 GMT
#519
360p so horrible
MangoMountain
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2044 Posts
August 25 2012 11:51 GMT
#520
On August 25 2012 20:49 Rhedsa wrote:

Yeah, I liked Curious for doing a 6pool on TDA, simply because a normal 2base push by protoss can hit you harder because your 3rd was late or is far away... instead you can take down those stupid rocks with plenty of lings... although a 6-7 Gate could have ended the game earlier.

It's a risk though, the easiest way to lose an advantage is to cut tech and go for an all-in, if it doesn't work you're more fucked than the zerg ever was
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