EPTOn August 25 2012 07:31 oogieogie wrote:
are you new to live tournament threads? This isn't the first or last time that people will complain about a event, and even for a free stream they have the right to complain.
No life for complaining about a product? riiiiiiight.
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On August 25 2012 07:24 how2TL wrote:
You're not going to waste your time on MLG's streams.
Instead you're going to waste everyone's time by complaining not once but multiple times on TL.
Congratulations you have no life.
On August 25 2012 07:21 Yonnua wrote:
If I was watching football, I wouldn't be expected to watch a channel which froze every 10 seconds. I also wouldn't be expected to have to change settings on my TV to watch it. If Starcraft 2 and esports as a whole are going to become legitimately mainstream then poor production and accepting low standards shouldn't be the norm. It shouldn't be acceptable to require people to fiddle around in settings which the average person won't have extensive knowledge of because that excludes a part of the population and limits the reach of the sport.
I voiced my concerns with the poor production and said that I wouldn't be watching. At this point three or four people took it upon themselves to rally round and largely make personal attacks about how I should be banned or how I'm overly entitled. Esports succeeding doesn't come from blindly supporting everything in a fanatic manner. It comes from making it an enjoyable experience that everyone has access to. By having poor production that requires workarounds, MLG exclude that access to a large number of people. The people who don't have extensive knowledge of chrome settings, don't have a multitude of browsers and don't go on TL may have been excluded from this event. That hurts the growth of esports.
So does the community accepting a lower standard because then that standard becomes just that; acceptable. Once lower effort becomes acceptable it'll likely become the norm, and having lower access to people on the fringe of esports who may become involved will likely deter them from becoming involved permanently. And when this becomes the standard for events that makes it much harder for esports as a whole to succeed, because a lower standard is commonplace and its a much more enjoyable experience to watch football where you don't need to fiddle with settings to watch.
I'm not angry, and I'm not being overly entitled, but if Starcraft 2 is going to succeed then this level of production is unacceptable. All I stated was that I'm not watching this event when the production is this poor. Accepting this standard would be damaging to esports and I'm not going to be complicit with that.
On August 25 2012 07:12 marttorn wrote:
Yes, you are being angry, and you are also being overly entitled. Appreciate what you have instead of whining about something this trivial in the long run.
"I shouldn't have to do that" lol
On August 25 2012 07:10 Yonnua wrote:
Say you don't like an event and won't watch it -> get banned? I certainly hope not. I'm not watching and I'm not angry. All I'm saying is that MLG seriously need to improve their production.
On August 25 2012 07:08 Badfatpanda wrote:
We get it, you're pissed off, you should probably vent your rage to a customer support email instead of shitting on these forums and getting yourself banned.
On August 25 2012 07:07 Yonnua wrote:
And? Faeces are free, I doubt you'd eat them. I refuse to feed money to MLG by watching 20 ads an hour while they make me jump through hoops to watch. Not interested.
On August 25 2012 07:05 opterown wrote:
it's free to watch (half the streams), chill man
On August 25 2012 07:04 Yonnua wrote:
Shouldn't have to do this, shouldn't need 3 browsers. I'm not watching the event. MLG shouldn't be rewarded for this POS production, which they do again and again and again with every event. They have never had an event with no issues and I for one am sick of it.
On August 25 2012 07:01 stuchiu wrote:
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Or,
Use this fix:
type "chrome://plugins" intro address bar and you will see 3 versions of flash, disable the "pepperflash" version and you will be good.
Then reload the stream. If you have gold, you may have to log out of the mlg store and log back in.
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Or,
Use this fix:
type "chrome://plugins" intro address bar and you will see 3 versions of flash, disable the "pepperflash" version and you will be good.
Then reload the stream. If you have gold, you may have to log out of the mlg store and log back in.
Shouldn't have to do this, shouldn't need 3 browsers. I'm not watching the event. MLG shouldn't be rewarded for this POS production, which they do again and again and again with every event. They have never had an event with no issues and I for one am sick of it.
it's free to watch (half the streams), chill man
And? Faeces are free, I doubt you'd eat them. I refuse to feed money to MLG by watching 20 ads an hour while they make me jump through hoops to watch. Not interested.
We get it, you're pissed off, you should probably vent your rage to a customer support email instead of shitting on these forums and getting yourself banned.
Say you don't like an event and won't watch it -> get banned? I certainly hope not. I'm not watching and I'm not angry. All I'm saying is that MLG seriously need to improve their production.
Yes, you are being angry, and you are also being overly entitled. Appreciate what you have instead of whining about something this trivial in the long run.
"I shouldn't have to do that" lol
If I was watching football, I wouldn't be expected to watch a channel which froze every 10 seconds. I also wouldn't be expected to have to change settings on my TV to watch it. If Starcraft 2 and esports as a whole are going to become legitimately mainstream then poor production and accepting low standards shouldn't be the norm. It shouldn't be acceptable to require people to fiddle around in settings which the average person won't have extensive knowledge of because that excludes a part of the population and limits the reach of the sport.
I voiced my concerns with the poor production and said that I wouldn't be watching. At this point three or four people took it upon themselves to rally round and largely make personal attacks about how I should be banned or how I'm overly entitled. Esports succeeding doesn't come from blindly supporting everything in a fanatic manner. It comes from making it an enjoyable experience that everyone has access to. By having poor production that requires workarounds, MLG exclude that access to a large number of people. The people who don't have extensive knowledge of chrome settings, don't have a multitude of browsers and don't go on TL may have been excluded from this event. That hurts the growth of esports.
So does the community accepting a lower standard because then that standard becomes just that; acceptable. Once lower effort becomes acceptable it'll likely become the norm, and having lower access to people on the fringe of esports who may become involved will likely deter them from becoming involved permanently. And when this becomes the standard for events that makes it much harder for esports as a whole to succeed, because a lower standard is commonplace and its a much more enjoyable experience to watch football where you don't need to fiddle with settings to watch.
I'm not angry, and I'm not being overly entitled, but if Starcraft 2 is going to succeed then this level of production is unacceptable. All I stated was that I'm not watching this event when the production is this poor. Accepting this standard would be damaging to esports and I'm not going to be complicit with that.
You're not going to waste your time on MLG's streams.
Instead you're going to waste everyone's time by complaining not once but multiple times on TL.
Congratulations you have no life.
are you new to live tournament threads? This isn't the first or last time that people will complain about a event, and even for a free stream they have the right to complain.
No life for complaining about a product? riiiiiiight.
Yup, it's going to be non-stop I'm afraid. Just deal with it or don't expect anything better from a live report thread.
