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Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
August 13 2012 21:38 GMT
#1221
whoa. talk about over extension.
Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
August 13 2012 21:38 GMT
#1222
On August 14 2012 06:36 Qikz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 06:29 Eufouria wrote:
On August 14 2012 06:27 Isaac wrote:
is jrecco scottish or uk?

Right now he's English. We'll see how the other games go


Haha amazing. Nobody outside of the UK will get this. :p

Pretty much everyone outside of the UK get this by now.
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
Deleuze
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom2102 Posts
August 13 2012 21:38 GMT
#1223
Omg how did he get away with that? Such a baller!
“An image of thought called philosophy has been formed historically and it effectively stops people from thinking.” ― Gilles Deleuze, Dialogues II
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
August 13 2012 21:38 GMT
#1224
Hrm, I have no idea how Major managed to do so little damage with that.
Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
August 13 2012 21:38 GMT
#1225
On August 14 2012 06:31 Supter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 06:27 TheDwf wrote:
On August 14 2012 06:26 PartyBiscuit wrote:
On August 14 2012 06:04 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
On August 14 2012 06:01 Supter wrote:
Ok. no more TSL for me. I don't see the point in a TSL without foreigner in it. If i just wanted to watch koreans, i would watch the GSL or WCS Korea.

Too bad.

I don't understand this mentality.

I don't understand how it's difficult to understand. Not to be a prick and I do like to pop into LRs once in a blue moon to comment, but there is basically no story, no underdogs, no climactic anything.

Hack and almost all these koreans do not have a ton of personality (regardless of anyone's justifications to subjectivity), they are all Code B to low Code S players that are almost all recyclable. Granted, most of the foreigners in TSL are of the same quality in the EU scene, at the very least we could have rooted for an underdog. Now at best we'll have JR (who I wouldn't mind to be honest) or Major (aka always one train wreck away from something). I haven't watched any of the TSL matches because I didn't find anything here for me, but I just wanted to address the terrible point people make of 1. Not wanting to watch because of no foreigners OR 2) Not understanding why.

It's not always about saying, 'ok, based on our system, we have the highest pool of talent', it's also about making it entertaining and by human nature, rarely is something worth watching unless there is also a back story. It should be noted that TSL doesn't have the "best" talent anyway as the majority of Code S players did not even bother to make more than a couple or any qualifying attempts, which is why placing a few invites (for the draw) ALONG with qualifiers (for the skill and newcomers) is what made TSL3 so great.

Nice way to despise people simply because they're Korean.



Yeah. So What ? We don't have the same access to their culture that we have to others. How could we know them as much as foreigners ?

Are you going to blame us because we don't cheer for people we don't know against people we know and like ?



Calling people of a culture you do not follow 'recyclable' might garner you a little bit of criticism.
Telling others who know these players, have followed them and like them that '[they] do not have a ton of personality' might also. Or just be factually incorrect.
Saying that we cannot know them as much as foreigners when at least a few of TL posters see them more regularly in tournaments, read more interviews with them and generally can follow them more closely because they are involved with more than strictly online tournaments on an ongoing basis might also be completely wrong.

And I do not think anyone really blames you for feeling the way you do. Some might say you are wrong. Certainly some of the facts you try to bring are wrong. Most would just say that whining in live report threads, be it about balance or nationality, is tiresome and it should have no place here.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
August 13 2012 21:38 GMT
#1226
With Hellions behind MM, he would have won right away.
imallinson
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3482 Posts
August 13 2012 21:38 GMT
#1227
How did that do so little damage? It looked like Major should have just killed him there.
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Supter
Profile Joined February 2011
France382 Posts
August 13 2012 21:39 GMT
#1228
On August 14 2012 06:35 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 06:31 Supter wrote:
On August 14 2012 06:27 TheDwf wrote:
On August 14 2012 06:26 PartyBiscuit wrote:
On August 14 2012 06:04 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
On August 14 2012 06:01 Supter wrote:
Ok. no more TSL for me. I don't see the point in a TSL without foreigner in it. If i just wanted to watch koreans, i would watch the GSL or WCS Korea.

Too bad.

I don't understand this mentality.

I don't understand how it's difficult to understand. Not to be a prick and I do like to pop into LRs once in a blue moon to comment, but there is basically no story, no underdogs, no climactic anything.

Hack and almost all these koreans do not have a ton of personality (regardless of anyone's justifications to subjectivity), they are all Code B to low Code S players that are almost all recyclable. Granted, most of the foreigners in TSL are of the same quality in the EU scene, at the very least we could have rooted for an underdog. Now at best we'll have JR (who I wouldn't mind to be honest) or Major (aka always one train wreck away from something). I haven't watched any of the TSL matches because I didn't find anything here for me, but I just wanted to address the terrible point people make of 1. Not wanting to watch because of no foreigners OR 2) Not understanding why.

It's not always about saying, 'ok, based on our system, we have the highest pool of talent', it's also about making it entertaining and by human nature, rarely is something worth watching unless there is also a back story. It should be noted that TSL doesn't have the "best" talent anyway as the majority of Code S players did not even bother to make more than a couple or any qualifying attempts, which is why placing a few invites (for the draw) ALONG with qualifiers (for the skill and newcomers) is what made TSL3 so great.

Nice way to despise people simply because they're Korean.



Yeah. So What ? We don't have the same access to their culture that we have to others. How could we know them as much as foreigners ?

Are you going to blame us because we don't cheer for people we don't know against people we know and like ?

I don't care about who you cheer for and why. But stating that “they do not have a ton of personality” and that they “are almost all recyclable” is very disdainful. Besides, how can you say that if you precisely don't know them?


Someone else said that.
Sroobz
Profile Joined December 2011
United States1377 Posts
August 13 2012 21:39 GMT
#1229
Major has really horrible micro in this game...
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Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
August 13 2012 21:39 GMT
#1230
On August 14 2012 06:37 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 06:36 sAsImre wrote:
On August 14 2012 06:36 Qikz wrote:
On August 14 2012 06:29 Eufouria wrote:
On August 14 2012 06:27 Isaac wrote:
is jrecco scottish or uk?

Right now he's English. We'll see how the other games go


Haha amazing. Nobody outside of the UK will get this. :p


there was a cool pic with the explanation for ignorants :D

To explain the joke to those not from the UK it refers the Andy Murray when he became a favourite on the tennis scene, people in Britain started to say "If he wins he's British if he loses he's Scottish".


and did Mr. Murray take the joke with good humor as well, or was a part of the scottish pride hurt? Really curious, nice story.
Broodwar for life!
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
August 13 2012 21:39 GMT
#1231
very close game. major will have a timing before ultra.
Zion9
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Romania347 Posts
August 13 2012 21:40 GMT
#1232
Why the hell he didn't kill the Hatch
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Bashion
Profile Joined February 2011
Cook Islands2612 Posts
August 13 2012 21:40 GMT
#1233
Husky sure loves the unit lost tab.
I've got moves like Jagger
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
August 13 2012 21:40 GMT
#1234
On August 14 2012 06:38 TheDwf wrote:
With Hellions behind MM, he would have won right away.


this. sad micro there, he tried to back his hellions but that was impossible
Zest fanboy.
Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
August 13 2012 21:40 GMT
#1235
I like how they ignore the fact that JRecco didnt make any drones in that time and Major was ahead on workers while taking a third.
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Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12025 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-13 21:41:11
August 13 2012 21:40 GMT
#1236
I wonder how many brain bugs Johnny is going to make.

Also, Major badly needs a single ghost nuking called Wilkins. ^^


On August 14 2012 06:40 Megaliskuu wrote:
I like how they ignore the fact that JRecco didnt make any drones in that time and Major was ahead on workers while taking a third.


Doesn't really matter considering he was on 3 bases and can make 10 drones at once to catch up/go ahead.
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TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
August 13 2012 21:40 GMT
#1237
On August 14 2012 06:38 imallinson wrote:
How did that do so little damage? It looked like Major should have just killed him there.

Well, this kind of timing tends to naturally die by itself because of repetitive Stim without Medivacs to heal. Losing Hellions was a mistake too, he could not chase drones because of that.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45306 Posts
August 13 2012 21:40 GMT
#1238
On August 14 2012 06:35 Fusilero wrote:
My dog just came into my room and I'm watching with speakers, whenever apollo speaks he starts wagging his tail and whenever husky talks he starts growling. Just felt like sharing that lol.


That means your dog is probably really really good at Starcraft ^^
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-13 21:41:28
August 13 2012 21:40 GMT
#1239
Lol I know more about the Koreans than the foreigners because I actually try to follow the scene with the best players. There are always plenty of interviews after any event with Koreans, so you get to hear what the have to say and get a great idea of what their personalities are like. People complain about Koreans having no personality and having no idea what they're like as people, and they don't follow the Korean scene because of that, and because they don't follow the Korean scene, they don't get to know the players. It's completely circular.
Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
August 13 2012 21:41 GMT
#1240
On August 14 2012 06:38 Gosi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 06:36 Qikz wrote:
On August 14 2012 06:29 Eufouria wrote:
On August 14 2012 06:27 Isaac wrote:
is jrecco scottish or uk?

Right now he's English. We'll see how the other games go


Haha amazing. Nobody outside of the UK will get this. :p

Pretty much everyone outside of the UK get this by now.

The great British sporting stars Andy Murray and Chris Hoy have let the rest of the world catch on to our ways.

Mo Farrah too a little bit, on the BBC commentary for one of his races they were talking about how the American runner was a refugee, and then no mention that Mo Farrah is British Somalian ^^
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