EPT[TSL4] Ro16 Monday (Previously Day 1) - Page 61
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Absentia
United Kingdom973 Posts
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Diks
Belgium1880 Posts
On August 14 2012 06:31 Supter wrote: Yeah. So What ? We don't have the same access to their culture that we have to others. How could we know them as much as foreigners ? Are you going to blame us because we don't cheer for people we don't know against people we know and like ? Well, you don't really know the foreign players, you watch and follow them. You could also do that with koreans you know... There are many fan club thread for korean players here on TL if one day you want to know and like them | ||
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Supter
France382 Posts
Well, you don't really know the foreign players, you watch and follow them. You could also do that with koreans you know... There are many fan club thread for korean players here on TL if one day you want to know and like them I can follow a foreigner on twitter, see him talking in interviews without the translator-barrier. I like some koreans, i really like Polt, MKP and i root for Leenock everytime i can. But it's not the same. It's just based on their gameplay (except for showmen like MC). All in one, it's way easier to follow a foreigner, and we can relate easily to them : a foreigner is more like a guy you don't know, but who isn't that far from you (i'm not talking about gameplay, purely on a social plan), while a korean is more like a celebrity you cannot get close to. | ||
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AlternativeEgo
Sweden17309 Posts
On August 14 2012 06:33 yeint wrote: Yes. Because you could take the opportunity to watch good games and get to know these unknown players. I completely understand rooting for foreigners, I do that myself. But when there's nothing but Koreans left, I still watch. Unless, of course, there's no more Terrans. Oh c'mon, that's just racist.  | ||
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
On August 14 2012 06:31 Supter wrote: Yeah. So What ? We don't have the same access to their culture that we have to others. How could we know them as much as foreigners ? Are you going to blame us because we don't cheer for people we don't know against people we know and like ? I don't care about who you cheer for and why. But stating that “they do not have a ton of personality” and that they “are almost all recyclable” is very disdainful. Besides, how can you say that if you precisely don't know them? | ||
opterown
Australia54784 Posts
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
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imallinson
United Kingdom3482 Posts
If you were in Glasgow you wouldn't be able to understand what he said before his head connects with your nose. | ||
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Qikz
United Kingdom12033 Posts
On August 14 2012 06:29 Eufouria wrote: Right now he's English. We'll see how the other games go  Haha amazing. Nobody outside of the UK will get this. :p | ||
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Vapaach
Finland994 Posts
On August 14 2012 06:27 Wombat_NI wrote: Koreans can't get to BE interesting if they don't get exposure, i.e in tournaments like this. Plus the qualification was meritocratic, with a few invites to former champions. I mean how many people were fans of Seed before his recent upsurge in form? You are right. I guess it is hard for me, and apparently for many others to find something.. likeable from many koreans. For example look at Alive. He won the freaking IPL4 and still has way less fans than the average EU/NA player. I can't say why this is though, and quite frankly I am puzzled by it. I guess koreans are generally more stoic than foreigners and their playstyle is more defined, creating less variance (and thus creating less things that stand out). I think there needs to be more Bitbybits in the scene :> Actually Creator is in the bracket still so I am definitely rooting for him. He has a cool, crisp playstyle. The fact that it's hard for me to cheer for koreans makes me ashamed actually T.T | ||
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imre
France9263 Posts
On August 14 2012 06:36 Qikz wrote: Haha amazing. Nobody outside of the UK will get this. :p there was a cool pic with the explanation for ignorants :D And Murray popularized it a lot outside of UK  | ||
CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
On August 14 2012 06:26 PartyBiscuit wrote: I don't understand how it's difficult to understand. Not to be a prick and I do like to pop into LRs once in a blue moon to comment, but there is basically no story, no underdogs, no climactic anything. Hack and almost all these koreans do not have a ton of personality (regardless of anyone's justifications to subjectivity), they are all Code B to low Code S players that are almost all recyclable. Granted, most of the foreigners in TSL are of the same quality in the EU scene, at the very least we could have rooted for an underdog. Now at best we'll have JR (who I wouldn't mind to be honest) or Major (aka always one train wreck away from something). I haven't watched any of the TSL matches because I didn't find anything here for me, but I just wanted to address the terrible point people make of 1. Not wanting to watch because of no foreigners OR 2) Not understanding why. It's not always about saying, 'ok, based on our system, we have the highest pool of talent', it's also about making it entertaining and by human nature, rarely is something worth watching unless there is also a back story. It should be noted that TSL doesn't have the "best" talent anyway as the majority of Code S players did not even bother to make more than a couple or any qualifying attempts, which is why placing a few invites (for the draw) ALONG with qualifiers (for the skill and newcomers) is what made TSL3 so great. Koreans are not marketed based on their personality because in their scene, such marketing is quite pointless. Foreigners don't have much more personality to speak of; we just project our own desires and biases onto them, and it's easy because we identify with them. | ||
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Diks
Belgium1880 Posts
On August 14 2012 06:36 Qikz wrote: Haha amazing. Nobody outside of the UK will get this. :p I got it, I love british sense of humour <3 | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On August 14 2012 06:36 sAsImre wrote: there was a cool pic with the explanation for ignorants :D To explain the joke to those not from the UK it refers the Andy Murray when he became a favourite on the tennis scene, people in Britain started to say "If he wins he's British if he loses he's Scottish". | ||
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yeint
Estonia2329 Posts
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Cele
Germany4016 Posts
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MCDayC
United Kingdom14464 Posts
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imre
France9263 Posts
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United States1377 Posts
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United States17423 Posts
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