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On August 14 2012 06:20 Asha` wrote:
"jonnyrecco is in a world of two decisions."
I really should start compiling Apolloisms.
Haha, I loved that too. Please start the compilation!
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On August 14 2012 06:28 yeint wrote:Nonsensical question. Scotland is a part of the UK. If you meant if he's Scottish or English, he's Scottish.
some scots consider themselves Scottish as opposed to British though and don't want to be associated with the rest of the UK
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On August 14 2012 06:27 Isaac wrote:
is jrecco scottish or uk?
scotland is part of uk bro ^^
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On August 14 2012 06:26 PartyBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2012 06:04 MountainDewJunkie wrote:On August 14 2012 06:01 Supter wrote:
Ok. no more TSL for me. I don't see the point in a TSL without foreigner in it. If i just wanted to watch koreans, i would watch the GSL or WCS Korea.
Too bad. I don't understand this mentality. I don't understand how it's difficult to understand. Not to be a prick and I do like to pop into LRs once in a blue moon to comment, but there is basically no story, no underdogs, no climactic anything. Hack and almost all these koreans do not have a ton of personality (regardless of anyone's justifications to subjectivity), they are all Code B to low Code S players that are almost all recyclable. Granted, most of the foreigners in TSL are of the same quality in the EU scene, at the very least we could have rooted for an underdog. Now at best we'll have JR (who I wouldn't mind to be honest) or Major (aka always one train wreck away from something). I haven't watched any of the TSL matches because I didn't find anything here for me, but I just wanted to address the terrible point people make of 1. Not wanting to watch because of no foreigners OR 2) Not understanding why. It's not always about saying, 'ok, based on our system, we have the highest pool of talent', it's also about making it entertaining and by human nature, rarely is something worth watching unless there is also a back story. It should be noted that TSL doesn't have the "best" talent anyway as the majority of Code S players did not even bother to make more than a couple or any qualifying attempts, which is why placing a few invites (for the draw) ALONG with qualifiers (for the skill and newcomers) is what made TSL3 so great.
This. While they may be 'better' mechanically and whatnot, I know almost nothing of these players and thus it's hard for them to generate any interest in me. Will still try to follow.
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Come on JRecco! Show up all the blokes saying that Major would 3-0 this.
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On August 14 2012 06:29 Vaftrudner wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2012 06:20 Asha` wrote:
"jonnyrecco is in a world of two decisions."
I really should start compiling Apolloisms. Haha, I loved that too. Please start the compilation!
hehehe, do it !
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On August 14 2012 06:23 Gosi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2012 06:21 Talionis wrote:On August 14 2012 06:19 Gosi wrote:
Foreigner map awarness: have vision of dropship for like 2 seconds - don't react.
:XD We're too spoiled by the reactions of Kespa pros these days :p The beauty with them, so reactive. Especially the zergs. They are living on that fucking minimap and as soon as something red pops up on the minimap they are on it in a split second. So seXy^^~~~
Yeah. Watching JRecco's minimap awareness made me cringe a bit to be honest. I think with a bigger map he would have been crushed with the whole 1a syndrome he has in reacting to these drops.
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On August 14 2012 06:29 sage_francis wrote:scotland is part of uk bro ^^
Aye!
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possible mech map especially with those pos.
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On August 14 2012 06:29 mememolly wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2012 06:28 yeint wrote:On August 14 2012 06:27 Isaac wrote:
is jrecco scottish or uk? Nonsensical question. Scotland is a part of the UK. If you meant if he's Scottish or English, he's Scottish. some scots consider themselves Scottish as opposed to British though and don't want to be associated with the rest of the UK
They can consider themselves to be fire engines if they so choose, they're still residents of one of the four countries that make up the United Kingdom.
Whether they identify as "British" is a slightly different topic.
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On August 14 2012 06:28 Gosi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2012 06:27 redviper wrote:
Is JRecco the find of TSL4 like Thorzain was for TSL3? Maybe, maybe not. I personally think he is a patchzerg tbh, but I wouldn't complain if I were wrong about that either.
I haven't been particularly impressed with the games I've seen of him in tournaments. If he's able to get ahead he turtles really well. If he's on even footing or faces a well executed all-in he seems to fall apart. I'd enjoy being proved wrong though.
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On August 14 2012 06:27 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2012 06:26 PartyBiscuit wrote:On August 14 2012 06:04 MountainDewJunkie wrote:On August 14 2012 06:01 Supter wrote:
Ok. no more TSL for me. I don't see the point in a TSL without foreigner in it. If i just wanted to watch koreans, i would watch the GSL or WCS Korea.
Too bad. I don't understand this mentality. I don't understand how it's difficult to understand. Not to be a prick and I do like to pop into LRs once in a blue moon to comment, but there is basically no story, no underdogs, no climactic anything. Hack and almost all these koreans do not have a ton of personality (regardless of anyone's justifications to subjectivity), they are all Code B to low Code S players that are almost all recyclable. Granted, most of the foreigners in TSL are of the same quality in the EU scene, at the very least we could have rooted for an underdog. Now at best we'll have JR (who I wouldn't mind to be honest) or Major (aka always one train wreck away from something). I haven't watched any of the TSL matches because I didn't find anything here for me, but I just wanted to address the terrible point people make of 1. Not wanting to watch because of no foreigners OR 2) Not understanding why. It's not always about saying, 'ok, based on our system, we have the highest pool of talent', it's also about making it entertaining and by human nature, rarely is something worth watching unless there is also a back story. It should be noted that TSL doesn't have the "best" talent anyway as the majority of Code S players did not even bother to make more than a couple or any qualifying attempts, which is why placing a few invites (for the draw) ALONG with qualifiers (for the skill and newcomers) is what made TSL3 so great. Nice way to despise people simply because they're Korean.
Yeah. So What ? We don't have the same access to their culture that we have to others. How could we know them as much as foreigners ?
Are you going to blame us because we don't cheer for people we don't know against people we know and like ?
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On August 14 2012 06:31 yeint wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2012 06:29 mememolly wrote:On August 14 2012 06:28 yeint wrote:On August 14 2012 06:27 Isaac wrote:
is jrecco scottish or uk? Nonsensical question. Scotland is a part of the UK. If you meant if he's Scottish or English, he's Scottish. some scots consider themselves Scottish as opposed to British though and don't want to be associated with the rest of the UK They can consider themselves to be fire engines if they so choose, they're still residents of one of the four countries that make up the United Kingdom. Whether they identify as "British" is a slightly different topic.
take that logic to some parts of Glasgow on a Saturday night and you'll probably be forced to accept that Scotland isn't actually part of the UK
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On August 14 2012 06:31 Supter wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2012 06:27 TheDwf wrote:On August 14 2012 06:26 PartyBiscuit wrote:On August 14 2012 06:04 MountainDewJunkie wrote:On August 14 2012 06:01 Supter wrote:
Ok. no more TSL for me. I don't see the point in a TSL without foreigner in it. If i just wanted to watch koreans, i would watch the GSL or WCS Korea.
Too bad. I don't understand this mentality. I don't understand how it's difficult to understand. Not to be a prick and I do like to pop into LRs once in a blue moon to comment, but there is basically no story, no underdogs, no climactic anything. Hack and almost all these koreans do not have a ton of personality (regardless of anyone's justifications to subjectivity), they are all Code B to low Code S players that are almost all recyclable. Granted, most of the foreigners in TSL are of the same quality in the EU scene, at the very least we could have rooted for an underdog. Now at best we'll have JR (who I wouldn't mind to be honest) or Major (aka always one train wreck away from something). I haven't watched any of the TSL matches because I didn't find anything here for me, but I just wanted to address the terrible point people make of 1. Not wanting to watch because of no foreigners OR 2) Not understanding why. It's not always about saying, 'ok, based on our system, we have the highest pool of talent', it's also about making it entertaining and by human nature, rarely is something worth watching unless there is also a back story. It should be noted that TSL doesn't have the "best" talent anyway as the majority of Code S players did not even bother to make more than a couple or any qualifying attempts, which is why placing a few invites (for the draw) ALONG with qualifiers (for the skill and newcomers) is what made TSL3 so great. Nice way to despise people simply because they're Korean. Yeah. So What ? We don't have the same access to their culture that we have to others. How could we know them as much as foreigners ? Are you going to blame us because we don't cheer for people we don't know against people we know and like ?
Yes. Because you could take the opportunity to watch good games and get to know these unknown players.
I completely understand rooting for foreigners, I do that myself. But when there's nothing but Koreans left, I still watch.
Unless, of course, there's no more Terrans.
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On August 14 2012 06:31 Supter wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2012 06:27 TheDwf wrote:On August 14 2012 06:26 PartyBiscuit wrote:On August 14 2012 06:04 MountainDewJunkie wrote:On August 14 2012 06:01 Supter wrote:
Ok. no more TSL for me. I don't see the point in a TSL without foreigner in it. If i just wanted to watch koreans, i would watch the GSL or WCS Korea.
Too bad. I don't understand this mentality. I don't understand how it's difficult to understand. Not to be a prick and I do like to pop into LRs once in a blue moon to comment, but there is basically no story, no underdogs, no climactic anything. Hack and almost all these koreans do not have a ton of personality (regardless of anyone's justifications to subjectivity), they are all Code B to low Code S players that are almost all recyclable. Granted, most of the foreigners in TSL are of the same quality in the EU scene, at the very least we could have rooted for an underdog. Now at best we'll have JR (who I wouldn't mind to be honest) or Major (aka always one train wreck away from something). I haven't watched any of the TSL matches because I didn't find anything here for me, but I just wanted to address the terrible point people make of 1. Not wanting to watch because of no foreigners OR 2) Not understanding why. It's not always about saying, 'ok, based on our system, we have the highest pool of talent', it's also about making it entertaining and by human nature, rarely is something worth watching unless there is also a back story. It should be noted that TSL doesn't have the "best" talent anyway as the majority of Code S players did not even bother to make more than a couple or any qualifying attempts, which is why placing a few invites (for the draw) ALONG with qualifiers (for the skill and newcomers) is what made TSL3 so great. Nice way to despise people simply because they're Korean. Yeah. So What ? We don't have the same access to their culture that we have to others. How could we know them as much as foreigners ? Are you going to blame us because we don't cheer for people we don't know against people we know and like ?
You can't know them until they GET exposure, i.e like in this tournament.
Seriously, I'm not one of those to look to stifle debate, but you get what's advertised. The player pool and brackets are there. If you don't like watching these Koreans, why come in and bitch about it?
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On August 14 2012 06:32 mememolly wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2012 06:31 yeint wrote:On August 14 2012 06:29 mememolly wrote:On August 14 2012 06:28 yeint wrote:On August 14 2012 06:27 Isaac wrote:
is jrecco scottish or uk? Nonsensical question. Scotland is a part of the UK. If you meant if he's Scottish or English, he's Scottish. some scots consider themselves Scottish as opposed to British though and don't want to be associated with the rest of the UK They can consider themselves to be fire engines if they so choose, they're still residents of one of the four countries that make up the United Kingdom. Whether they identify as "British" is a slightly different topic. take that logic to some parts of Glasgow on a Saturday night and you'll probably be forced to accept that Scotland isn't actually part of the UK
"Ah, alrigh' I'm English am I pal?"
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On August 14 2012 06:32 mememolly wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2012 06:31 yeint wrote:On August 14 2012 06:29 mememolly wrote:On August 14 2012 06:28 yeint wrote:On August 14 2012 06:27 Isaac wrote:
is jrecco scottish or uk? Nonsensical question. Scotland is a part of the UK. If you meant if he's Scottish or English, he's Scottish. some scots consider themselves Scottish as opposed to British though and don't want to be associated with the rest of the UK They can consider themselves to be fire engines if they so choose, they're still residents of one of the four countries that make up the United Kingdom. Whether they identify as "British" is a slightly different topic. take that logic to some parts of Glasgow on a Saturday night and you'll probably be forced to accept that Scotland isn't actually part of the UK
I'd rather go to Kabul.
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On August 14 2012 06:31 Supter wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2012 06:27 TheDwf wrote:On August 14 2012 06:26 PartyBiscuit wrote:On August 14 2012 06:04 MountainDewJunkie wrote:On August 14 2012 06:01 Supter wrote:
Ok. no more TSL for me. I don't see the point in a TSL without foreigner in it. If i just wanted to watch koreans, i would watch the GSL or WCS Korea.
Too bad. I don't understand this mentality. I don't understand how it's difficult to understand. Not to be a prick and I do like to pop into LRs once in a blue moon to comment, but there is basically no story, no underdogs, no climactic anything. Hack and almost all these koreans do not have a ton of personality (regardless of anyone's justifications to subjectivity), they are all Code B to low Code S players that are almost all recyclable. Granted, most of the foreigners in TSL are of the same quality in the EU scene, at the very least we could have rooted for an underdog. Now at best we'll have JR (who I wouldn't mind to be honest) or Major (aka always one train wreck away from something). I haven't watched any of the TSL matches because I didn't find anything here for me, but I just wanted to address the terrible point people make of 1. Not wanting to watch because of no foreigners OR 2) Not understanding why. It's not always about saying, 'ok, based on our system, we have the highest pool of talent', it's also about making it entertaining and by human nature, rarely is something worth watching unless there is also a back story. It should be noted that TSL doesn't have the "best" talent anyway as the majority of Code S players did not even bother to make more than a couple or any qualifying attempts, which is why placing a few invites (for the draw) ALONG with qualifiers (for the skill and newcomers) is what made TSL3 so great. Nice way to despise people simply because they're Korean. Yeah. So What ? We don't have the same access to their culture that we have to others. How could we know them as much as foreigners ? Are you going to blame us because we don't cheer for good players we don't know against bad or mediocre players for the most part we know and like ?
enjoying mediocre play (such as 1a syndrom, not even 1a2a3a and 2s reaction time) as an excuse to do not take the time to appreciate superior play isn't an excuse. Especially when we're talking about the like of Creator/Keen who're now in code A/S for a long time.
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On August 14 2012 06:31 Supter wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2012 06:27 TheDwf wrote:On August 14 2012 06:26 PartyBiscuit wrote:On August 14 2012 06:04 MountainDewJunkie wrote:On August 14 2012 06:01 Supter wrote:
Ok. no more TSL for me. I don't see the point in a TSL without foreigner in it. If i just wanted to watch koreans, i would watch the GSL or WCS Korea.
Too bad. I don't understand this mentality. I don't understand how it's difficult to understand. Not to be a prick and I do like to pop into LRs once in a blue moon to comment, but there is basically no story, no underdogs, no climactic anything. Hack and almost all these koreans do not have a ton of personality (regardless of anyone's justifications to subjectivity), they are all Code B to low Code S players that are almost all recyclable. Granted, most of the foreigners in TSL are of the same quality in the EU scene, at the very least we could have rooted for an underdog. Now at best we'll have JR (who I wouldn't mind to be honest) or Major (aka always one train wreck away from something). I haven't watched any of the TSL matches because I didn't find anything here for me, but I just wanted to address the terrible point people make of 1. Not wanting to watch because of no foreigners OR 2) Not understanding why. It's not always about saying, 'ok, based on our system, we have the highest pool of talent', it's also about making it entertaining and by human nature, rarely is something worth watching unless there is also a back story. It should be noted that TSL doesn't have the "best" talent anyway as the majority of Code S players did not even bother to make more than a couple or any qualifying attempts, which is why placing a few invites (for the draw) ALONG with qualifiers (for the skill and newcomers) is what made TSL3 so great. Nice way to despise people simply because they're Korean. Yeah. So What ? We don't have the same access to their culture that we have to others. How could we know them as much as foreigners ? Are you going to blame us because we don't cheer for people we don't know against people we know and like ?
The idea of knowing someone by internet videos and interviews doesn't make sense. Knowing someone implies a lot more. But i know what you´re meaning: possibility to identify with the player by shared culture, culture beeing used in a broader sense.
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