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On August 08 2012 19:58 Cyro wrote:Show nested quote + Honestly, I feel the Collosus's design is salvageable. They could cut its movement speed in half, upped its damage and lowered its attack speed and they could make it a proper siege unit on par with the Siege Tank and Broodlord.
You'd have to babysit them, but properly micro'd they'd be even more devastating than they are now, but they wouldn't be suited to the deathball as much because they aren't nearly as mobile. That is a horrible idea, the entire concept of the protoss deathball in the first place is creating an army that is unbeatable, it doesnt matter how or where you engage as long as you reach that maxed army you can win 2 base vs 5. That was the original idea, and pretty much how it played out before zerg players knew how to deal with it and before major nerfs to the void ray etc, if you increase the DPS or even just the flat damage of the colossus at a cost to movement speed, you are making the deathball stronger and making the entire race weaker where they were most weak before. It would make every game stupid and one sided as either the unbeatable army rolled over everything with no significant losses, or its massive weaknesses in mobility etc got exploited so hard that the protoss player couldnt do anything aside from roll over and die.
Yea I see how that makes it more all or nothing. /shrug.
Oh well.
We know Blizz is trying to break up the deathball in HOTS. Maybe the Viper and Tempest will do a better job of it than redesigning units like the Collosus, but it doesn't hurt to think about it.
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PvP could help Hero a lot.
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CJ Hero good in BW?
Don't make me laugh 
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well its a pvp so its going to be quick
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On August 08 2012 19:59 Wildmoon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2012 19:58 DrakeFZX3 wrote:On August 08 2012 19:55 Assirra wrote:On August 08 2012 19:51 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On August 08 2012 19:49 Skelith wrote:
full KeSPA instead of foreigner ouch that elephant in the room article is getting burned It's sad actually. If that article never came out this elephant nonsense would never had started and more people would have rooted for the kespa players to get better faster. Agreed. That article is responsible for such a huge divide in both the BW and SC2 communities here at TL. again who the hell was the author of that article?
Someone who knows a hell of a lot more about starcraft than most the people in this thread.
The article was written at a time that all of the 'progamers' were the unsuccessful Brood War players. It's a very internet phenomenon to hold on to something indefinitely until it can be proven wrong. The article was relevant at the time and that time has long since passed.
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On August 08 2012 20:01 eericson000 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2012 20:00 Fragile51 wrote:On August 08 2012 19:59 Wildmoon wrote:On August 08 2012 19:58 DrakeFZX3 wrote:On August 08 2012 19:55 Assirra wrote:On August 08 2012 19:51 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On August 08 2012 19:49 Skelith wrote:
full KeSPA instead of foreigner ouch that elephant in the room article is getting burned It's sad actually. If that article never came out this elephant nonsense would never had started and more people would have rooted for the kespa players to get better faster. Agreed. That article is responsible for such a huge divide in both the BW and SC2 communities here at TL. again who the hell was the author of that article? google is hard The same thing when you give a friend an address to your party and they still ask for directions......
More like giving someone an address whilst they are standing on top of a map and they still ask for someone else to point it out to them.
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is Jessica that scary x'))??
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On August 08 2012 19:58 DrakeFZX3 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2012 19:55 Assirra wrote:On August 08 2012 19:51 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On August 08 2012 19:49 Skelith wrote:
full KeSPA instead of foreigner ouch that elephant in the room article is getting burned It's sad actually. If that article never came out this elephant nonsense would never had started and more people would have rooted for the kespa players to get better faster. Agreed. That article is responsible for such a huge divide in both the BW and SC2 communities here at TL.
I agree with this so much. That bloody article basically drew a line in the sand to separate SC2 and BW fans, and did it in a way that talked down to the SC2 scene so much that now, when we should be embracing the arrival of the new players, lots of people are just trying to rub the other half of the community's nose in the demonstration that SC2 really isn't just easy-mode freewins for top-level BW pros. 
Allowing that post with the TL imprimature was really disgraceful, the atmosphere it's led to in these LR threads is just incredibly obnoxious.
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To the current game: LOL at Hero v Hero. A true mirror matchup.
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Cloud Kingdom has to be the best sounding map name in a while
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On August 08 2012 20:02 Probe1 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2012 19:59 Wildmoon wrote:On August 08 2012 19:58 DrakeFZX3 wrote:On August 08 2012 19:55 Assirra wrote:On August 08 2012 19:51 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On August 08 2012 19:49 Skelith wrote:
full KeSPA instead of foreigner ouch that elephant in the room article is getting burned It's sad actually. If that article never came out this elephant nonsense would never had started and more people would have rooted for the kespa players to get better faster. Agreed. That article is responsible for such a huge divide in both the BW and SC2 communities here at TL. again who the hell was the author of that article? Someone who knows a hell of a lot more about starcraft than most the people in this thread. The article was written at a time that all of the 'progamers' were the unsuccessful Brood War players. It's a very internet phenomenon to hold on to something indefinitely until it can be proven wrong. The article was relevant at the time and that time has long since passed. I don't think it was ever relevant really.
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On August 08 2012 20:02 Probe1 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2012 19:59 Wildmoon wrote:On August 08 2012 19:58 DrakeFZX3 wrote:On August 08 2012 19:55 Assirra wrote:On August 08 2012 19:51 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On August 08 2012 19:49 Skelith wrote:
full KeSPA instead of foreigner ouch that elephant in the room article is getting burned It's sad actually. If that article never came out this elephant nonsense would never had started and more people would have rooted for the kespa players to get better faster. Agreed. That article is responsible for such a huge divide in both the BW and SC2 communities here at TL. again who the hell was the author of that article? Someone who knows a hell of a lot more about starcraft than most the people in this thread. The article was written at a time that all of the 'progamers' were the unsuccessful Brood War players. It's a very internet phenomenon to hold on to something indefinitely until it can be proven wrong. The article was relevant at the time and that time has long since passed.
So he didn't consider possibility of those players to become good SC2 player? It's not hard to tell BW and SC2 are different.
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On August 08 2012 20:03 tns wrote:
is Jessica that scary x'))??
Even more than 'that'...
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new jersey is full on swag
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On August 08 2012 20:03 tns wrote:
is Jessica that scary x'))??
I think she is the most feared of all people in the korean teams :D , At least the gsl teams.
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On August 08 2012 20:02 Probe1 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2012 19:59 Wildmoon wrote:On August 08 2012 19:58 DrakeFZX3 wrote:On August 08 2012 19:55 Assirra wrote:On August 08 2012 19:51 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On August 08 2012 19:49 Skelith wrote:
full KeSPA instead of foreigner ouch that elephant in the room article is getting burned It's sad actually. If that article never came out this elephant nonsense would never had started and more people would have rooted for the kespa players to get better faster. Agreed. That article is responsible for such a huge divide in both the BW and SC2 communities here at TL. again who the hell was the author of that article? Someone who knows a hell of a lot more about starcraft than most the people in this thread. The article was written at a time that all of the 'progamers' were the unsuccessful Brood War players. It's a very internet phenomenon to hold on to something indefinitely until it can be proven wrong. The article was relevant at the time and that time has long since passed.
Yea but what's happening now does show just how audacious the article was in the first place. Of course the competition while the game was in its infancy was going to look inferior, everyone was still learning, the metagame was still developing.
It was totally premature to just call all of it a farce and make a claim like he did about how dominant the SC1 pros would be just based off less than a year of actual competition.
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On August 08 2012 20:02 Probe1 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2012 19:59 Wildmoon wrote:On August 08 2012 19:58 DrakeFZX3 wrote:On August 08 2012 19:55 Assirra wrote:On August 08 2012 19:51 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On August 08 2012 19:49 Skelith wrote:
full KeSPA instead of foreigner ouch that elephant in the room article is getting burned It's sad actually. If that article never came out this elephant nonsense would never had started and more people would have rooted for the kespa players to get better faster. Agreed. That article is responsible for such a huge divide in both the BW and SC2 communities here at TL. again who the hell was the author of that article? Someone who knows a hell of a lot more about starcraft than most the people in this thread. The article was written at a time that all of the 'progamers' were the unsuccessful Brood War players. It's a very internet phenomenon to hold on to something indefinitely until it can be proven wrong. The article was relevant at the time and that time has long since passed.
If said person didn't see the increase in skill that was going on from the launch till then and didn't think it was going higher he/she apparently didn't knew enough about SC2.
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this is like the battle of the 400apmers
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I seriously want herO to meet HerO in the Ro8
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On August 08 2012 20:03 AmericanUmlaut wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2012 19:58 DrakeFZX3 wrote:On August 08 2012 19:55 Assirra wrote:On August 08 2012 19:51 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On August 08 2012 19:49 Skelith wrote:
full KeSPA instead of foreigner ouch that elephant in the room article is getting burned It's sad actually. If that article never came out this elephant nonsense would never had started and more people would have rooted for the kespa players to get better faster. Agreed. That article is responsible for such a huge divide in both the BW and SC2 communities here at TL. I agree with this so much. That bloody article basically drew a line in the sand to separate SC2 and BW fans, and did it in a way that talked down to the SC2 scene so much that now, when we should be embracing the arrival of the new players, lots of people are just trying to rub the other half of the community's nose in the demonstration that SC2 really isn't just easy-mode freewins for top-level BW pros. Allowing that post with the TL imprimature was really disgraceful, the atmosphere it's led to in these LR threads is just incredibly obnoxious. --- To the current game: LOL at Hero v Hero. A true mirror matchup.
It would have happened that way anyway. People would have had preferences anyway, and they would have clashed.
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On August 08 2012 20:05 Roggay wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2012 20:03 AmericanUmlaut wrote:On August 08 2012 19:58 DrakeFZX3 wrote:On August 08 2012 19:55 Assirra wrote:On August 08 2012 19:51 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On August 08 2012 19:49 Skelith wrote:
full KeSPA instead of foreigner ouch that elephant in the room article is getting burned It's sad actually. If that article never came out this elephant nonsense would never had started and more people would have rooted for the kespa players to get better faster. Agreed. That article is responsible for such a huge divide in both the BW and SC2 communities here at TL. I agree with this so much. That bloody article basically drew a line in the sand to separate SC2 and BW fans, and did it in a way that talked down to the SC2 scene so much that now, when we should be embracing the arrival of the new players, lots of people are just trying to rub the other half of the community's nose in the demonstration that SC2 really isn't just easy-mode freewins for top-level BW pros. Allowing that post with the TL imprimature was really disgraceful, the atmosphere it's led to in these LR threads is just incredibly obnoxious. --- To the current game: LOL at Hero v Hero. A true mirror matchup. It would have happened that way anyway. People would have had preferences anyway, and they would have clashed.
But the condescending tone of the thread just turned what could have been a friendly difference in preference to a rivalry that gets hostile at times.
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