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Shkudde
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands709 Posts
August 08 2012 10:54 GMT
#761
On August 08 2012 19:51 Darneck wrote:
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On August 08 2012 19:50 Shkudde wrote:
Dat elephant
The Kespa-guys really need to do some catching up quick, this is getting a bit silly. Only Soulkey yesterday was on par with expectations.

Several other player has been doing well, already having beat GSL players as well and they are still playing 2 games at the same time in PL.


The point about PL is very valid, forgot about that.
That monstrosity really should be put out of its misery :/
$O$ | herO[jOin] | Zest hwaiting!
eericson000
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia718 Posts
August 08 2012 10:54 GMT
#762
On August 08 2012 19:53 NHY wrote:
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On August 08 2012 19:49 Skelith wrote:
full KeSPA instead of foreigner

What would happen if KeSPA vs foreigner?

Kespa vs Stephano gg
Chenz
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden1197 Posts
August 08 2012 10:54 GMT
#763
On August 08 2012 19:51 Nawe wrote:
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On August 08 2012 19:38 Fragile51 wrote:
On August 08 2012 19:36 Nawe wrote:
DO Kespa guys still play both games? If not, they are progressing really bad


It's probably like 10% BW and 90% sc2. And "really bad" is a pretty laughable statement after watching their first series against Code S level players.


Sorry but except JaeDong and Soulkey every one got stomped really hard. Moon for example played both games until january and maganed to get into GSL and beat Code S players from time to time. Thats why I said like that.

Jaedong didn't get stomped? What? He put up a decent fight in game one, but game two wasn't even close iirc.
FatBat
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany326 Posts
August 08 2012 10:54 GMT
#764
On August 08 2012 19:53 NHY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 19:49 Skelith wrote:
full KeSPA instead of foreigner

What would happen if KeSPA vs foreigner?

battle.net goes down midgame
"This game went full retard"- Totalbiscuit
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16126 Posts
August 08 2012 10:54 GMT
#765
On August 08 2012 19:53 LimitSEA wrote:
What on earth is this music?


TRUMPETS DUDE DONT YOU KNOW?!

aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Heavenlee
Profile Joined April 2012
United States966 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-08 10:55:38
August 08 2012 10:54 GMT
#766
On August 08 2012 19:52 tootatis wrote:
Not sure what effort was supposed to do once Hero took his fast 3rd.

As Zerg you can't punish him easily for taking it, since the FFs will delay an attack long enough to be able to push it back unless you go all-in. So, you have to play greedily like he did otherwise Hero will destroy him just before Blords come out with a maxed 3/3 army o death. Just feels weird that a Protoss can take a greedy fast 3rd and then their opponent is still expected to be ready for a large enough attack to kill them.


Or maybe Hero is better than his opponent. Really, that's not even remotely unpunishable and there are certain limits to zerg greed while still keeping them even. Broodlord/infestor is good.
1ManArmy
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands895 Posts
August 08 2012 10:55 GMT
#767
overproof soundsystem - dub afrika
Wouldst thou receive my all-in, cousin? - Choya
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
August 08 2012 10:55 GMT
#768
On August 08 2012 19:51 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
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On August 08 2012 19:49 Skelith wrote:
full KeSPA instead of foreigner


ouch

that elephant in the room article is getting burned

It's sad actually.
If that article never came out this elephant nonsense would never had started and more people would have rooted for the kespa players to get better faster.
hagga
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden219 Posts
August 08 2012 10:55 GMT
#769
great music
Dauntless
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway548 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-08 10:55:36
August 08 2012 10:55 GMT
#770
On August 08 2012 19:53 LimitSEA wrote:
What on earth is this music?

Apart from awesome?
Overproof Soundsystem - Dub Africa

Says so on the bottom=)

Oh, and HerO wins!!
Dauntless.156 EU || Liquid´HerO | Grubby.Grubby
ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
August 08 2012 10:55 GMT
#771
Ugh... The trumpets again TT
The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
eericson000
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia718 Posts
August 08 2012 10:55 GMT
#772
Trumpets OP
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
August 08 2012 10:55 GMT
#773
On August 08 2012 19:53 NHY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 19:49 Skelith wrote:
full KeSPA instead of foreigner

What would happen if KeSPA vs foreigner?

Well if Kespa went against a full foreigner Kespa would win easily, but thats because full foreigner is the worst kind of fuck up imaginable and people overuse it,
If Kespa just went up against a standard top end Foriegner, I think foreigners would take it pretty easily.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
justinpal
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3810 Posts
August 08 2012 10:55 GMT
#774
On August 08 2012 19:54 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 19:53 LimitSEA wrote:
What on earth is this music?


TRUMPETS DUDE DONT YOU KNOW?!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JnoIn8giWk


Ugh, I just threw up a little. Now I have to go brush my teeth. Hopefully, I don't miss too much SC.
Never make a hydralisk.
YoucriedWolf
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden1456 Posts
August 08 2012 10:55 GMT
#775
On August 08 2012 19:53 Darneck wrote:
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On August 08 2012 19:52 YoucriedWolf wrote:
Didnt reality say something like i cannot lose to zerg in his quali interview? Am i imagining this?

He did so hopefully he will live up to that and beat yugioh like he beat symbol


Yes, Im not asking for much only good games! Actually im not even sure yugioh can deliver good games haha.
Weirdkid
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Singapore2431 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-08 10:56:31
August 08 2012 10:56 GMT
#776
On August 08 2012 19:53 Vaftrudner wrote:
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On August 08 2012 19:47 Savant.GL wrote:
Before anyone comments I am a zerg here.

I do not believe this tournament states anything about zerg balance.

Firstly there has only been 6 ZvX matchups where X is not zerg so the data set isn't exactly large.

Look at the relative strengths between the two players in the zerg matchups.
curious won his match against a kespa player.
soulkey and jaedong whilst obviously great at BW are still new to SC2 and played gumiho and alive, 2 top quality terrans.
coca played seed, the GSL champion
effort will likely lose but again he is a kespa player and hero is phenomenal.

and DRG - creator. you would expect DRG to win but if you watched the games he did not play like a GSL champion and was quite sloppy in lots of areas, this is not due to 'balance'.

None of these games have any reflection on balance.

TLDR - 6 games with Large skill differentials between players and a sloppy DRG are not indicators of balance

Anyone who uses one single tournament as an indicator of balance shouldn't be allowed to use a keyboard. If anything, this is just further evidence that players win games, not races.


Korean
"Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you be like him yourself." - Proverbs 26:4
gold_
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada312 Posts
August 08 2012 10:56 GMT
#777
This Kespa - GSL rivalry has made my interest in SC2 increase, so I am hoping for a Reality win. I am also not even a huge BW fan at all. I just find this awesome seeing the Kespa players switch over and hopefully watching a few of them become awesome.
I am from Canada, eh!
AgentChaos
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom4569 Posts
August 08 2012 10:57 GMT
#778
why you have to play cheryl cole T_T
IM & EG supporter
BlindKill
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Australia1508 Posts
August 08 2012 10:57 GMT
#779
women in the fucking miror, just break the mirror
“Life is a grindstone, and whether it grinds a man down or polishes him up depends on the stuff he's made of.”
tootatis
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom13 Posts
August 08 2012 10:57 GMT
#780
On August 08 2012 19:54 Heavenlee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 19:52 tootatis wrote:
Not sure what effort was supposed to do once Hero took his fast 3rd.

As Zerg you can't punish him easily for taking it, since the FFs will delay an attack long enough to be able to push it back unless you go all-in. So, you have to play greedily like he did otherwise Hero will destroy him just before Blords come out with a maxed 3/3 army o death. Just feels weird that a Protoss can take a greedy fast 3rd and then their opponent is still expected to be ready for a large enough attack to kill them.


Or maybe Hero is better than his opponent. Really, that's not even remotely unpunishable and there are certain limits to zerg greed while still keeping them even. Broodlord/infestor is good.


No doubt that Hero was the better player, I'm talking more generally in this case. Assuming the players are of even skill how do you punish that without going all-in? Seems quite easy to hold on that map.

It's probably as simple as Effort having to make a mix of units and workers.
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