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Darneck
Sweden1394 Posts
On August 08 2012 19:50 Shkudde wrote: Dat elephant  The Kespa-guys really need to do some catching up quick, this is getting a bit silly. Only Soulkey yesterday was on par with expectations. Several other player has been doing well, already having beat GSL players as well and they are still playing 2 games at the same time in PL. | ||
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shineq
United Kingdom1453 Posts
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Krossfire
Australia1071 Posts
On August 08 2012 19:36 Nawe wrote: DO Kespa guys still play both games? If not, they are progressing really bad its been 2-3 months of playing BW and SC2 vs some of the best SC2 players in the world....u expect too much too soon | ||
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FakeDeath
Malaysia6060 Posts
On August 08 2012 19:50 Qikz wrote: Effort wasn't playing too badly, much like all of them actually. With more practice now OSL is switching to SC2 I really do wonder in a couple of months how even it's all going to be. It'll be awesome. My dream match would be Fantasy or Flash vs Ryung/Taeja or on form MMA in a TvT. It'd be amazing. The Proleague is still on. They still have to practice both BW and SC2(Hybrid) which is stupid IMO. | ||
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raga4ka
Bulgaria5679 Posts
On August 08 2012 19:49 Type|NarutO wrote: KeSPa players are really lucky, loses gets DRG. LOL :D I think Effort would be happier with DRG then Hero in ZvZ he is actually good . | ||
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FataLe
New Zealand4517 Posts
On August 08 2012 19:51 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: ouch that elephant in the room article is getting burned Poor ellie  | ||
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Majynx
United States1431 Posts
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YoucriedWolf
Sweden1456 Posts
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Doublemint
Austria8653 Posts
Really time to let BW die in dignity and go full Sc2. | ||
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eericson000
Australia718 Posts
On August 08 2012 19:50 Zambrah wrote: 6 Dark Templar. NO ES BUENO, Effort is dead. This series wasn't even fair, HerO slammed him. Despite that, most of the Kespa players look like that with time they can be pretty competitive. :-D NEXT HERO GAME! Now go Puzzle! Puzzle <3. Yeah, Kespa players are playing the game as if SC2 just came out few months ago, difference being they get to play with big maps like Daybreak etc, as suppose to GSL season 1, where we still had maps like Outer Steppes, Jungle Basin etc.... | ||
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Snusmumriken
Sweden1717 Posts
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tootatis
United Kingdom13 Posts
As Zerg you can't punish him easily for taking it, since the FFs will delay an attack long enough to be able to push it back unless you go all-in. So, you have to play greedily like he did otherwise Hero will destroy him just before Blords come out with a maxed 3/3 army o death. Just feels weird that a Protoss can take a greedy fast 3rd and then their opponent is still expected to be ready for a large enough attack to kill them. | ||
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Darneck
Sweden1394 Posts
On August 08 2012 19:51 Nawe wrote: Sorry but except JaeDong and Soulkey every one got stomped really hard. Moon for example played both games until january and maganed to get into GSL and beat Code S players from time to time. Thats why I said like that. Reality who is playing later beat Symbol in the qualifiers | ||
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FakeDeath
Malaysia6060 Posts
On August 08 2012 19:51 raga4ka wrote: I think Effort would be happier with DRG then Hero in ZvZ he is actually good . No Effort has a almost no chance against DRG. Those Zergs that Effort beat on PL is nowhere near the level of DRG. | ||
Ragnarork
France9034 Posts
On August 08 2012 19:48 M2 wrote: Does it matter? Kespa players are just not on par yet or maybe they ll never be who knows. Hardest draw only means fastest loss  Honestly, I think there are some KeSPA players that can win over the like of Miya or Horror. I wouldn't be surprised if today some KeSPA could take a round or two in code A. (And I'm mostly a SC2 fan, though I recognize the KeSPA players current skill). | ||
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LimitSEA
Australia9580 Posts
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Darneck
Sweden1394 Posts
On August 08 2012 19:52 YoucriedWolf wrote: Didnt reality say something like i cannot lose to zerg in his quali interview? Am i imagining this? He did so hopefully he will live up to that and beat yugioh like he beat symbol | ||
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NHY
1013 Posts
On August 08 2012 19:49 Skelith wrote: full KeSPA instead of foreigner What would happen if KeSPA vs foreigner? | ||
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Vaftrudner
Sweden1185 Posts
On August 08 2012 19:47 Savant.GL wrote: Before anyone comments I am a zerg here. I do not believe this tournament states anything about zerg balance. Firstly there has only been 6 ZvX matchups where X is not zerg so the data set isn't exactly large. Look at the relative strengths between the two players in the zerg matchups. curious won his match against a kespa player. soulkey and jaedong whilst obviously great at BW are still new to SC2 and played gumiho and alive, 2 top quality terrans. coca played seed, the GSL champion effort will likely lose but again he is a kespa player and hero is phenomenal. and DRG - creator. you would expect DRG to win but if you watched the games he did not play like a GSL champion and was quite sloppy in lots of areas, this is not due to 'balance'. None of these games have any reflection on balance. TLDR - 6 games with Large skill differentials between players and a sloppy DRG are not indicators of balance Anyone who uses one single tournament as an indicator of balance shouldn't be allowed to use a keyboard. If anything, this is just further evidence that players win games, not races. | ||
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Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo
Germany2959 Posts
On August 08 2012 19:51 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: ouch that elephant in the room article is getting burned Who was the author of that? That person should feel terrible either way, talk about elitism that none wants :/ The BW/KeSPA stuff was always annoying to talk about because it ended up in the same dispute and then that guy makes the biggest deal in the world out of it. I mean who even benefits from elitism? Feeling superior because of shit like that, urgh. I bet the players actually care much less about it and just want to improve while parts of the rapid fanbase gets unnecessarily hung up in that. | ||
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