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FakeDeath
Malaysia6060 Posts
On August 08 2012 19:55 YoucriedWolf wrote: Yes, Im not asking for much only good games! Actually im not even sure yugioh can deliver good games haha. It's Yugioh. 100% sure we will get weird games and some good games. He actually got some unorthodox build that sometimes prove effective. Hopefully i can steal some today. | ||
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1ManArmy
Netherlands895 Posts
On August 08 2012 19:55 YoucriedWolf wrote: Yes, Im not asking for much only good games! Actually im not even sure yugioh can deliver good games haha. Yugioh always plays pretty good, its just that he can't win consistently against the better korean players. Reality might win it, but it will be close i think. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20275 Posts
Honestly, I feel the Collosus's design is salvageable. They could cut its movement speed in half, upped its damage and lowered its attack speed and they could make it a proper siege unit on par with the Siege Tank and Broodlord. You'd have to babysit them, but properly micro'd they'd be even more devastating than they are now, but they wouldn't be suited to the deathball as much because they aren't nearly as mobile. That is a horrible idea, the entire concept of the protoss deathball in the first place is creating an army that is unbeatable, it doesnt matter how or where you engage as long as you reach that maxed army you can win 2 base vs 5. That was the original idea, and pretty much how it played out before zerg players knew how to deal with it and before major nerfs to the void ray etc, if you increase the DPS or even just the flat damage of the colossus at a cost to movement speed, you are making the deathball stronger and making the entire race weaker where they were most weak before. It would make every game stupid and one sided as either the unbeatable army rolled over everything with no significant losses, or its massive weaknesses in mobility etc got exploited so hard that the protoss player couldnt do anything aside from roll over and die. | ||
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heaveshade
China330 Posts
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DrakeFZX3
United States925 Posts
On August 08 2012 19:55 Assirra wrote: It's sad actually. If that article never came out this elephant nonsense would never had started and more people would have rooted for the kespa players to get better faster. Agreed. That article is responsible for such a huge divide in both the BW and SC2 communities here at TL. | ||
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Tantaburs
Canada1825 Posts
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Wildmoon
Thailand4189 Posts
On August 08 2012 19:58 DrakeFZX3 wrote: Agreed. That article is responsible for such a huge divide in both the BW and SC2 communities here at TL. again who the hell was the author of that article? | ||
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Fragile51
Netherlands15767 Posts
On August 08 2012 19:59 Wildmoon wrote: again who the hell was the author of that article? google is hard | ||
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BlindKill
Australia1508 Posts
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Wintex
Norway16835 Posts
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ThePlayer33
Australia2378 Posts
On August 08 2012 19:48 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Yugioh will take it home for the zergs guys, chill Go Puzzle. Go Yugioh~ | ||
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Cubeface
965 Posts
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Wintex
Norway16835 Posts
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Thrombozyt
Germany1269 Posts
On August 08 2012 19:57 tootatis wrote: No doubt that Hero was the better player, I'm talking more generally in this case. Assuming the players are of even skill how do you punish that without going all-in? Seems quite easy to hold on that map. It's probably as simple as Effort having to make a mix of units and workers. You know, if you want to take a fast 4th, make 5 workers less and have 7 instead of 2 roaches on the map, so you can burn the 7 sentry 2 zealot moveout. Or you research an upgrade, that suddenly transforms your supply units into dropships and then you laugh about FF. | ||
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FataLe
New Zealand4481 Posts
On August 08 2012 19:55 Assirra wrote: It's sad actually. If that article never came out this elephant nonsense would never had started and more people would have rooted for the kespa players to get better faster. I for one had my doubts when that article came to to fruition. But coming from the influx in 2010 I was ignorant, horribly ignorant and had no idea how good those players were. Now that I've learnt much more about both scenes I'd have to say that it was a tad pre-emptive to write such an article basically warning anyone and everyone that BEWARE. ONCE THEY SWITCH. IT'S GG FOR NON KESPAS. Now we're starting to see that yes, they're improving a ton but I don't think it's quite the same effect as The Elephant in the Room would suggest. | ||
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eericson000
Australia718 Posts
The same thing when you give a friend an address to your party and they still ask for directions...... | ||
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Kommander
Philippines4950 Posts
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moochu
Australia374 Posts
On August 08 2012 19:58 DrakeFZX3 wrote: Agreed. That article is responsible for such a huge divide in both the BW and SC2 communities here at TL. Think about the saying, the topic was bound to be brought up. | ||
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Heavenlee
United States966 Posts
On August 08 2012 19:57 tootatis wrote: No doubt that Hero was the better player, I'm talking more generally in this case. Assuming the players are of even skill how do you punish that without going all-in? Seems quite easy to hold on that map. It's probably as simple as Effort having to make a mix of units and workers. Pretty much. I mean, you don't have to punish a greedy toss third, you can take a very fast fourth and the game enters sorta late mid-game where zerg is going for hive and stuff happens inbetween. If you poke out far as toss, imagine if your opponent suddenly has a lot of units and you lose everything in the middle of the map, it's almost impossible to come back from. The feeling when you're doing a sentry heavy poke out and everything gets fungaled...t.t | ||
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Roggay
Switzerland6320 Posts
On August 08 2012 19:59 Wildmoon wrote: again who the hell was the author of that article? Intrigue. Seriously, I just had to type "elephant" in the search bar. | ||
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