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ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
August 02 2012 20:10 GMT
#3541
Any replays released yet, or do they do them all when the tournament is over?
Terminal
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom2109 Posts
August 02 2012 20:10 GMT
#3542
It's the shirt that's doing it...

where can I buy one?
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
August 02 2012 20:10 GMT
#3543
On August 03 2012 05:09 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 05:08 Coal wrote:
Man Soe is hot...

I prefer Woman Soe


Why not both?
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
BEARDiaguz
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia2362 Posts
August 02 2012 20:10 GMT
#3544
On August 03 2012 05:07 Bojas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 05:03 Type|NarutO wrote:
... to sum it up. He did

- No Gas FE
- double gas Factory
- 3rd CC
- Starport
- DOUBLE EBAY
- NO WALL
- NO BUNKER

and did hold the allin off with 7 workers lost? Kas is absolutely crazy.

I asked Beasty and he said it should be doable if you use your banshees to target fire and micro well.

I still struggle with holding it myself so you probably need Empire Terran level micro/mechanics ^^



It felt that Ret did a slower version of the timing, I've seen some of those that had 2 or even ONE gas (Bly!) and they hit really fast. In this one Kas could have a second banshee out before the banes started exploding.

ProgamerAustralian alcohol user follow @iaguzSC2
Leetley
Profile Joined October 2010
1796 Posts
August 02 2012 20:11 GMT
#3545
Not only good player, but Kas is a true ladies man too.
TheBanana
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway2183 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-02 20:11:32
August 02 2012 20:11 GMT
#3546
On August 03 2012 05:09 sVnteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 05:00 Orek wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:59 sVnteen wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:50 Shikyo wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:47 Sated wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:40 Type|NarutO wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:38 Sated wrote:
Where are the "Suppy only wins 3-0 because Kas is tired" people at?


They are still strong I guess. Can't say how it would have went if Kas is in good condition. Could be the same, but I for mypart do also think it was Kas' lack of sleep. Just that some of us don't blame Suppy for winning. Not his fault Kas was tired.

"Zombie" Kas has now taken two games off Ret, a player whose generally considered a better player than Suppy atm.

S'all I'm saying

Ret is considered a better player than Suppy? Not by me at least but whatever you say...

Ret totally blew that last game though, he knew it was 2rax in the mid. I facepalmed when I saw him making 6 drones at once. As I pointed out earlier, Kas could have killed him even earlier. I don't get why he'd do that. Ret could have overkilled lings to kill that allin and THEN went full drones and he'd have been way ahead anyway, why doesn't he understand you don't need 60 drones vs 20 SCVs, having 40 drones vs 20 SCVs is just fine if it guarantees you don't die.

On August 03 2012 04:50 Wegandi wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:35 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:32 Orek wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:15 Wegandi wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:05 FatBat wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:02 fakgfdgfdh wrote:
[quote]
seems likely as i cant think of a single player whos ever peaked at 16

I think in theory its best age because your brain is at his peak aswell as physically, BUT at 16 you have school and in generell not so much time to play( parents etc.)



Physical peak is late 20s, and mental peak generally is mid 20s, even though some other functions like spatial reasoning peaks in your late 50s. The reason you see teenagers doing so well is because they have less priorities and responsibilities. As much as we might like to say that gaming is mainstream, it really isn't, at least not yet. Many people lose their passion also the more they play the game. Just look at NaDa. His abilities didn't decline because of some physical or mental diminishing, but because his priorities shifted.

Let's also not forget the fact that Korean gamers are interrupted for years in the early 20s due to conscription. I think it's a bit silly to say that playing Starcraft is more physically or mentally demanding than say, Nolan Ryan pitching at age 43. If major league baseball players can still be on the top of the world in their late 30s in such a demanding sport, what makes you think that humans can't play starcraft in their early and mid twenties at the top of the game?


You have good insight. Playing video game is not nearly as demanding physically. I wouldn't be surprised 60 years old winning GSL if he/she has a chance and dedication to do so. Often times, people start to play games in teenage years. Therefore, it is only natural that some talents come up from those age bracket. When e-sports grow bigger and pro gamer career is taken more seriously by societies, then we might see more older age champions. For now, being younger is an advantage. Some say you have school, but if you start to work, school responsibility is such a joke compared to working responsibility. Maybe some youngsters don't understand that. I certainly didn't back then to be fair.

Videogames really rely on your cognitive abilities, your reaction times and whatnot that decline relatively quickly. Plus only the young tend to have sufficient time to dedicate to playing full time which is probably part of it.


Please don't tell me you are saying that playing starcraft is harder than trying to hit a 98MPH fastball, or a 87MPH Circle-Change coming from someone like Roy Halladay...As someone who extensively played RTS and Baseball for most of my life, I can definitely say, that playing baseball is much more demanding both physically and mentally, and the sport isn't dominated by 18-21 y/o's. Indeed, most don't peak until their late 20s or early 30s. There's a reason for this.

You realize SC2 was released in 2010? When do you think the early 30s basketballer started playing basketball? At the age of 29? Not a chance.



what? so you think that suppy is better than ret?
I personally don't really like ret's playstyle but he has won international tournaments and done really well in many others but suppy doesn't have any accomplishments whatsoever (no doing decently in WCS usa doesn't count as an achievent... not even close to an achievement you could compare to some of ret's)

strange point of view


Whoever wins today is better. Whatever they achieved in the past means nothing.

so suppy is now suddenly better than kas too?
and goody is better than nestea because the only time the faced off goody won?

yeah good logic lol


Goody would take the GSL easy if you gave him a code S spot. He could plan tank-placements for days and days in advance.
If you're not getting better faster than everybody else, you're getting worse.
Derrida
Profile Joined March 2011
2885 Posts
August 02 2012 20:11 GMT
#3547
On August 03 2012 05:10 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
someone gives kas sunglasses and a cigar to go with that shirt


i was thinking about the exact same thing hahaha
#1 Grubby Fan.
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
August 02 2012 20:11 GMT
#3548
On August 03 2012 05:09 sVnteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 05:00 Orek wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:59 sVnteen wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:50 Shikyo wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:47 Sated wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:40 Type|NarutO wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:38 Sated wrote:
Where are the "Suppy only wins 3-0 because Kas is tired" people at?


They are still strong I guess. Can't say how it would have went if Kas is in good condition. Could be the same, but I for mypart do also think it was Kas' lack of sleep. Just that some of us don't blame Suppy for winning. Not his fault Kas was tired.

"Zombie" Kas has now taken two games off Ret, a player whose generally considered a better player than Suppy atm.

S'all I'm saying

Ret is considered a better player than Suppy? Not by me at least but whatever you say...

Ret totally blew that last game though, he knew it was 2rax in the mid. I facepalmed when I saw him making 6 drones at once. As I pointed out earlier, Kas could have killed him even earlier. I don't get why he'd do that. Ret could have overkilled lings to kill that allin and THEN went full drones and he'd have been way ahead anyway, why doesn't he understand you don't need 60 drones vs 20 SCVs, having 40 drones vs 20 SCVs is just fine if it guarantees you don't die.

On August 03 2012 04:50 Wegandi wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:35 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:32 Orek wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:15 Wegandi wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:05 FatBat wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:02 fakgfdgfdh wrote:
[quote]
seems likely as i cant think of a single player whos ever peaked at 16

I think in theory its best age because your brain is at his peak aswell as physically, BUT at 16 you have school and in generell not so much time to play( parents etc.)



Physical peak is late 20s, and mental peak generally is mid 20s, even though some other functions like spatial reasoning peaks in your late 50s. The reason you see teenagers doing so well is because they have less priorities and responsibilities. As much as we might like to say that gaming is mainstream, it really isn't, at least not yet. Many people lose their passion also the more they play the game. Just look at NaDa. His abilities didn't decline because of some physical or mental diminishing, but because his priorities shifted.

Let's also not forget the fact that Korean gamers are interrupted for years in the early 20s due to conscription. I think it's a bit silly to say that playing Starcraft is more physically or mentally demanding than say, Nolan Ryan pitching at age 43. If major league baseball players can still be on the top of the world in their late 30s in such a demanding sport, what makes you think that humans can't play starcraft in their early and mid twenties at the top of the game?


You have good insight. Playing video game is not nearly as demanding physically. I wouldn't be surprised 60 years old winning GSL if he/she has a chance and dedication to do so. Often times, people start to play games in teenage years. Therefore, it is only natural that some talents come up from those age bracket. When e-sports grow bigger and pro gamer career is taken more seriously by societies, then we might see more older age champions. For now, being younger is an advantage. Some say you have school, but if you start to work, school responsibility is such a joke compared to working responsibility. Maybe some youngsters don't understand that. I certainly didn't back then to be fair.

Videogames really rely on your cognitive abilities, your reaction times and whatnot that decline relatively quickly. Plus only the young tend to have sufficient time to dedicate to playing full time which is probably part of it.


Please don't tell me you are saying that playing starcraft is harder than trying to hit a 98MPH fastball, or a 87MPH Circle-Change coming from someone like Roy Halladay...As someone who extensively played RTS and Baseball for most of my life, I can definitely say, that playing baseball is much more demanding both physically and mentally, and the sport isn't dominated by 18-21 y/o's. Indeed, most don't peak until their late 20s or early 30s. There's a reason for this.

You realize SC2 was released in 2010? When do you think the early 30s basketballer started playing basketball? At the age of 29? Not a chance.



what? so you think that suppy is better than ret?
I personally don't really like ret's playstyle but he has won international tournaments and done really well in many others but suppy doesn't have any accomplishments whatsoever (no doing decently in WCS usa doesn't count as an achievent... not even close to an achievement you could compare to some of ret's)

strange point of view


Whoever wins today is better. Whatever they achieved in the past means nothing.

so suppy is now suddenly better than kas too?
and goody is better than nestea because the only time the faced off goody won?

yeah good logic lol

Goody is actually a better player than both NesTea and MMA.
Coal
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden1535 Posts
August 02 2012 20:11 GMT
#3549
On August 03 2012 05:09 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 05:08 Coal wrote:
Man Soe is hot...

I prefer Woman Soe


Touché ^____^

But seriously she is really attractive ^_^
In order to succeed, your desire for success should be greater than your fear of failure.
Badgesc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
France111 Posts
August 02 2012 20:11 GMT
#3550
On August 03 2012 05:09 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 05:08 Coal wrote:
Man Soe is hot...

I prefer Woman Soe

Damn, you're on fire ahaa
sVnteen
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2238 Posts
August 02 2012 20:11 GMT
#3551
what's the score between sase and puma?
MY LIFE STARTS NOW ♥
Boundz(DarKo)
Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
August 02 2012 20:11 GMT
#3552
Congratulations to the shirt.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
August 02 2012 20:11 GMT
#3553
On August 03 2012 05:10 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 05:05 TheBanana wrote:
On August 03 2012 05:00 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:59 Sepi wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:56 dragonborn wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:54 Sepi wrote:
I dont get this format. According to TLDB, Satiini has beaten MANA once. Now he has to do it again whit no advantage given. And he had to face forGG, which can be said that is the better player out of johnyrecco, which mana faced.

Why isn't he given any advantage over his opponent? This is the most stupid bracket system im seen so far.

Satiini vs MaNa 3-2
ForGG vs jonnyrecco 3-2

ForGG vs Satiini 3-1 - Winners final, forGG advances
MaNa vs Jonnyrecco 3-0 - jonnyrecco out

MaNa vs Satiini - Losers final, winners advance.


I know the GSL/winners format. But i think its stupid to copy it over to these tournaments aswell.
Basically Mana gets free chance to beat his opponent again...

Well.. its not up to me or us to decide, but i don't see the point of copying the format of overseas.


You do realize how much worse round robin is, right?


I don't, the GSL-groups has the most unfair system for a group stage I can think of.
You need 2 wins, but if you have 1 amazing player, 1 horrible player and 2 mediocre players, one of the mediocre players gets a "free win" while the other gets a "sure loss".
If the mediocre players play 1-1 the one with the free win advances.

I don't see how round of robin is worse than that.

Round robin is obviously more fair (which is why it is used in every real sport), but the GSL format has the advantage of being more convenient for the tournament oganizers.


False assumption. The main reason round robin is used is because it gives the most games.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
August 02 2012 20:11 GMT
#3554
LOST HIS LUGGAGE?
holy...
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
synaptik
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada644 Posts
August 02 2012 20:11 GMT
#3555
who is this beautiful woman with that sexy accent on the stream? i must know.
Slangen
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden1166 Posts
August 02 2012 20:12 GMT
#3556
Dont know who to cheer for anymore.. my fellow countrymen SaSe and SortOf or.. Kas!!!!!!!!!!!
Kas would be a great champion of Asus for sure.
Fnatic - TSM - EG
Vorenius
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Denmark1979 Posts
August 02 2012 20:12 GMT
#3557
On August 03 2012 04:57 TemujinGK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 04:54 Vorenius wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:52 TemujinGK wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:51 Vorenius wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:48 TemujinGK wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:47 Ksquared wrote:
Ret logic. Getting allined? Better make drones.


if he didn't make drones then kas makes command center and wins the game because ret has like 7 drones and terran still has mules and like 4 mining scvs with like 7 at the engagement.

Kas pulls back and ret is dead, who are you jesus.

He had 30 drones while getting 2raxed by a guy who pulled like 8 SCVs... Even in a worst case scenario Kas has like 20 workers on one base at most.

Further, even if Ret is behind in drones it doesn't matter if he holds the all in. He has two hatches and queens for injects.



wtf

30 drones?

he had 15 when he put down the pool, and didn't make any more after getting to 16 suppy...

oingrf;alksjngjsk;nsjlgk;sf

At one point he had 26 drones with 4 more in eggs. Granted some drones died before the eggs hatched but I still counted it as 30. In any case it's way more than 16...


Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 04:54 Whatson wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:52 TemujinGK wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:51 Vorenius wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:48 TemujinGK wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:47 Ksquared wrote:
Ret logic. Getting allined? Better make drones.


if he didn't make drones then kas makes command center and wins the game because ret has like 7 drones and terran still has mules and like 4 mining scvs with like 7 at the engagement.

Kas pulls back and ret is dead, who are you jesus.

He had 30 drones while getting 2raxed by a guy who pulled like 8 SCVs... Even in a worst case scenario Kas has like 20 workers on one base at most.

Further, even if Ret is behind in drones it doesn't matter if he holds the all in. He has two hatches and queens for injects.



wtf

30 drones?

he had 15 when he put down the pool, and didn't make any more after getting to 16 suppy...

oingrf;alksjngjsk;nsjlgk;sf

It's not like he has to keep on producing pure drones. Use 4 larvae on drones, 2 on lings, or whatever.



literally both of you did not read anything. I fucking said that he needed to make those drones, i was talking about not making additional drones when the pressure first came, i acknowledged he made a huge round of drones and even said that was the only way to win because otherwise kas just pulls back salvages, mines his expo and wins with a HUGE advantage.

Sometimes, when no one understands what you mean, there is a chance it's not everyone's fault

Regardless making 30 drones when you opponent is mining with 10 is stupid. Also, Ret lost.
n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
3452 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-02 20:13:03
August 02 2012 20:12 GMT
#3558
On August 03 2012 05:10 iaguz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 05:07 Bojas wrote:
On August 03 2012 05:03 Type|NarutO wrote:
... to sum it up. He did

- No Gas FE
- double gas Factory
- 3rd CC
- Starport
- DOUBLE EBAY
- NO WALL
- NO BUNKER

and did hold the allin off with 7 workers lost? Kas is absolutely crazy.

I asked Beasty and he said it should be doable if you use your banshees to target fire and micro well.

I still struggle with holding it myself so you probably need Empire Terran level micro/mechanics ^^



It felt that Ret did a slower version of the timing, I've seen some of those that had 2 or even ONE gas (Bly!) and they hit really fast. In this one Kas could have a second banshee out before the banes started exploding.



he went 4 queens and spine, i was 100% sure he won't all-in, and then he does it anyway, but obviously way later

kinda weird, mb mindgames or something
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
August 02 2012 20:12 GMT
#3559
On August 03 2012 05:11 Leetley wrote:
Not only good player, but Kas is a true ladies man too.


Strelok is ladies man #1 though.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
VisonKai
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2203 Posts
August 02 2012 20:12 GMT
#3560
On August 03 2012 05:11 synaptik wrote:
who is this beautiful woman with that sexy accent on the stream? i must know.


Soe.
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