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NoGasfOu
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1117 Posts
August 02 2012 20:07 GMT
#3521
Wait, Kas is not sleepy anymore? Not sleeping for 48 hours and becoming tired and lose 0-3 to Suppy. Then played a few more long bo5's and his power is back? His power is probably charged from the PC?
Tassadar/TheBest/Jjakji/Rain(terran)/Heart
GuardianEU
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands488 Posts
August 02 2012 20:07 GMT
#3522
kas could fall asleep on the spot during the interview... he should do that :D
Standard.
Bojas
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2397 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-02 20:07:40
August 02 2012 20:07 GMT
#3523
On August 03 2012 05:03 Type|NarutO wrote:
... to sum it up. He did

- No Gas FE
- double gas Factory
- 3rd CC
- Starport
- DOUBLE EBAY
- NO WALL
- NO BUNKER

and did hold the allin off with 7 workers lost? Kas is absolutely crazy.

I asked Beasty and he said it should be doable if you use your banshees to target fire and micro well.

I still struggle with holding it myself so you probably need Empire Terran level micro/mechanics ^^

Zalitara
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway361 Posts
August 02 2012 20:08 GMT
#3524
Oh, come on just let Kas sleep.
Live to win
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
August 02 2012 20:08 GMT
#3525
Ramblin Kas!
I NEED A PHOTOSYNTHESIS! ||| 'airtoss' is an anagram of 'artosis' ||| SANGHOOOOOO ||| "No Korea? No problem. I have internet." -- Stardust
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
August 02 2012 20:08 GMT
#3526
On August 03 2012 05:06 Supter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 05:04 HaXXspetten wrote:
On August 03 2012 05:04 DertoQq wrote:
On August 03 2012 05:03 Asha` wrote:
Wow zombie kas advanced?

what a monster


maybe he plays better in zombie mode

Bratok does it all the time so...



IIRC Bratok has a disease, or sth like that

yes, Sanguinare Vampiris
Coal
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden1535 Posts
August 02 2012 20:08 GMT
#3527
Man Soe is hot...
In order to succeed, your desire for success should be greater than your fear of failure.
sVnteen
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2238 Posts
August 02 2012 20:09 GMT
#3528
On August 03 2012 05:00 Orek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 04:59 sVnteen wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:50 Shikyo wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:47 Sated wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:40 Type|NarutO wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:38 Sated wrote:
Where are the "Suppy only wins 3-0 because Kas is tired" people at?


They are still strong I guess. Can't say how it would have went if Kas is in good condition. Could be the same, but I for mypart do also think it was Kas' lack of sleep. Just that some of us don't blame Suppy for winning. Not his fault Kas was tired.

"Zombie" Kas has now taken two games off Ret, a player whose generally considered a better player than Suppy atm.

S'all I'm saying

Ret is considered a better player than Suppy? Not by me at least but whatever you say...

Ret totally blew that last game though, he knew it was 2rax in the mid. I facepalmed when I saw him making 6 drones at once. As I pointed out earlier, Kas could have killed him even earlier. I don't get why he'd do that. Ret could have overkilled lings to kill that allin and THEN went full drones and he'd have been way ahead anyway, why doesn't he understand you don't need 60 drones vs 20 SCVs, having 40 drones vs 20 SCVs is just fine if it guarantees you don't die.

On August 03 2012 04:50 Wegandi wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:35 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:32 Orek wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:15 Wegandi wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:05 FatBat wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:02 fakgfdgfdh wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:40 Shikyo wrote:
[quote]
Implying being 16 is a disadvantage? I'd say that's the best age for a player

seems likely as i cant think of a single player whos ever peaked at 16

I think in theory its best age because your brain is at his peak aswell as physically, BUT at 16 you have school and in generell not so much time to play( parents etc.)



Physical peak is late 20s, and mental peak generally is mid 20s, even though some other functions like spatial reasoning peaks in your late 50s. The reason you see teenagers doing so well is because they have less priorities and responsibilities. As much as we might like to say that gaming is mainstream, it really isn't, at least not yet. Many people lose their passion also the more they play the game. Just look at NaDa. His abilities didn't decline because of some physical or mental diminishing, but because his priorities shifted.

Let's also not forget the fact that Korean gamers are interrupted for years in the early 20s due to conscription. I think it's a bit silly to say that playing Starcraft is more physically or mentally demanding than say, Nolan Ryan pitching at age 43. If major league baseball players can still be on the top of the world in their late 30s in such a demanding sport, what makes you think that humans can't play starcraft in their early and mid twenties at the top of the game?


You have good insight. Playing video game is not nearly as demanding physically. I wouldn't be surprised 60 years old winning GSL if he/she has a chance and dedication to do so. Often times, people start to play games in teenage years. Therefore, it is only natural that some talents come up from those age bracket. When e-sports grow bigger and pro gamer career is taken more seriously by societies, then we might see more older age champions. For now, being younger is an advantage. Some say you have school, but if you start to work, school responsibility is such a joke compared to working responsibility. Maybe some youngsters don't understand that. I certainly didn't back then to be fair.

Videogames really rely on your cognitive abilities, your reaction times and whatnot that decline relatively quickly. Plus only the young tend to have sufficient time to dedicate to playing full time which is probably part of it.


Please don't tell me you are saying that playing starcraft is harder than trying to hit a 98MPH fastball, or a 87MPH Circle-Change coming from someone like Roy Halladay...As someone who extensively played RTS and Baseball for most of my life, I can definitely say, that playing baseball is much more demanding both physically and mentally, and the sport isn't dominated by 18-21 y/o's. Indeed, most don't peak until their late 20s or early 30s. There's a reason for this.

You realize SC2 was released in 2010? When do you think the early 30s basketballer started playing basketball? At the age of 29? Not a chance.



what? so you think that suppy is better than ret?
I personally don't really like ret's playstyle but he has won international tournaments and done really well in many others but suppy doesn't have any accomplishments whatsoever (no doing decently in WCS usa doesn't count as an achievent... not even close to an achievement you could compare to some of ret's)

strange point of view


Whoever wins today is better. Whatever they achieved in the past means nothing.

so suppy is now suddenly better than kas too?
and goody is better than nestea because the only time the faced off goody won?

yeah good logic lol
MY LIFE STARTS NOW ♥
vilg
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark413 Posts
August 02 2012 20:09 GMT
#3529
epic kas answer, haha
RonNation
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States385 Posts
August 02 2012 20:09 GMT
#3530
Kas is a great interview, don't even have to ask him questions. Love it!
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
August 02 2012 20:09 GMT
#3531
On August 03 2012 05:08 Coal wrote:
Man Soe is hot...

I prefer Woman Soe
ibo422
Profile Joined April 2012
Belgium2844 Posts
August 02 2012 20:09 GMT
#3532
Dat shirt!!! Kas lacks a cigar, cowboy hat and a hookahh!!
\\o//
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-02 20:10:27
August 02 2012 20:09 GMT
#3533
On August 03 2012 05:05 TheBanana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 05:00 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:59 Sepi wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:56 dragonborn wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:54 Sepi wrote:
I dont get this format. According to TLDB, Satiini has beaten MANA once. Now he has to do it again whit no advantage given. And he had to face forGG, which can be said that is the better player out of johnyrecco, which mana faced.

Why isn't he given any advantage over his opponent? This is the most stupid bracket system im seen so far.

Satiini vs MaNa 3-2
ForGG vs jonnyrecco 3-2

ForGG vs Satiini 3-1 - Winners final, forGG advances
MaNa vs Jonnyrecco 3-0 - jonnyrecco out

MaNa vs Satiini - Losers final, winners advance.


I know the GSL/winners format. But i think its stupid to copy it over to these tournaments aswell.
Basically Mana gets free chance to beat his opponent again...

Well.. its not up to me or us to decide, but i don't see the point of copying the format of overseas.


You do realize how much worse round robin is, right?


I don't, the GSL-groups has the most unfair system for a group stage I can think of.
You need 2 wins, but if you have 1 amazing player, 1 horrible player and 2 mediocre players, one of the mediocre players gets a "free win" while the other gets a "sure loss".
If the mediocre players play 1-1 the one with the free win advances.

I don't see how round of robin is worse than that.


At the highest levels of gameplay, your initial assumption is a logical fallacy. Everybody can beat everybody on any given day; there are no easy wins. Even Suhosin was on the brink of defeating Mvp in group stages just because he chose the right strategies.

The round robin format has multiple instances where it would be advantageous to lose a game, or there is no incentive to win one. In winners' format you always want to win every series.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Jarree
Profile Joined January 2012
Finland1004 Posts
August 02 2012 20:09 GMT
#3534
Hahah Kas just keeps talking! What a boss!
DertoQq
Profile Joined October 2010
France906 Posts
August 02 2012 20:09 GMT
#3535
Kas likes to talk apparently : D
"i've made some empty promises in my life, but hands down that was the most generous" - Michael Scott
elanobissen
Profile Joined February 2011
Denmark244 Posts
August 02 2012 20:09 GMT
#3536
Nice answer - love kas<3
GuardianEU
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands488 Posts
August 02 2012 20:10 GMT
#3537
On August 03 2012 05:09 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 05:08 Coal wrote:
Man Soe is hot...

I prefer Woman Soe


I laughed way too hard at that :D
Standard.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
August 02 2012 20:10 GMT
#3538
On August 03 2012 05:08 Coal wrote:
Man Soe is hot...

It's professional.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
August 02 2012 20:10 GMT
#3539
On August 03 2012 05:05 TheBanana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 05:00 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:59 Sepi wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:56 dragonborn wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:54 Sepi wrote:
I dont get this format. According to TLDB, Satiini has beaten MANA once. Now he has to do it again whit no advantage given. And he had to face forGG, which can be said that is the better player out of johnyrecco, which mana faced.

Why isn't he given any advantage over his opponent? This is the most stupid bracket system im seen so far.

Satiini vs MaNa 3-2
ForGG vs jonnyrecco 3-2

ForGG vs Satiini 3-1 - Winners final, forGG advances
MaNa vs Jonnyrecco 3-0 - jonnyrecco out

MaNa vs Satiini - Losers final, winners advance.


I know the GSL/winners format. But i think its stupid to copy it over to these tournaments aswell.
Basically Mana gets free chance to beat his opponent again...

Well.. its not up to me or us to decide, but i don't see the point of copying the format of overseas.


You do realize how much worse round robin is, right?


I don't, the GSL-groups has the most unfair system for a group stage I can think of.
You need 2 wins, but if you have 1 amazing player, 1 horrible player and 2 mediocre players, one of the mediocre players gets a "free win" while the other gets a "sure loss".
If the mediocre players play 1-1 the one with the free win advances.

I don't see how round of robin is worse than that.

Round robin is obviously more fair (which is why it is used in every real sport), but the GSL format has the advantage of being more convenient for the tournament oganizers.
Off-season = best season
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
August 02 2012 20:10 GMT
#3540
someone gives kas sunglasses and a cigar to go with that shirt
Terran & Potato Salad.
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