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Really bummed that Ret left this tournament like this, but seeing Kas so happy and so outgoing almost makes up for it 
Remember talking to him at Copenhagen Games 2011 and he was sooo nervous and introverted, its really awesome to see him like this
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On August 03 2012 05:11 Zane wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2012 05:09 sVnteen wrote:On August 03 2012 05:00 Orek wrote:On August 03 2012 04:59 sVnteen wrote:On August 03 2012 04:50 Shikyo wrote:On August 03 2012 04:47 Sated wrote:On August 03 2012 04:40 Type|NarutO wrote:On August 03 2012 04:38 Sated wrote:Where are the "Suppy only wins 3-0 because Kas is tired" people at? They are still strong I guess. Can't say how it would have went if Kas is in good condition. Could be the same, but I for mypart do also think it was Kas' lack of sleep. Just that some of us don't blame Suppy for winning. Not his fault Kas was tired. "Zombie" Kas has now taken two games off Ret, a player whose generally considered a better player than Suppy atm. S'all I'm saying Ret is considered a better player than Suppy? Not by me at least but whatever you say... Ret totally blew that last game though, he knew it was 2rax in the mid. I facepalmed when I saw him making 6 drones at once. As I pointed out earlier, Kas could have killed him even earlier. I don't get why he'd do that. Ret could have overkilled lings to kill that allin and THEN went full drones and he'd have been way ahead anyway, why doesn't he understand you don't need 60 drones vs 20 SCVs, having 40 drones vs 20 SCVs is just fine if it guarantees you don't die. On August 03 2012 04:50 Wegandi wrote:On August 03 2012 04:35 Wombat_NI wrote:On August 03 2012 04:32 Orek wrote:On August 03 2012 04:15 Wegandi wrote:On August 03 2012 04:05 FatBat wrote:
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I think in theory its best age because your brain is at his peak aswell as physically, BUT at 16 you have school and in generell not so much time to play( parents etc.) Physical peak is late 20s, and mental peak generally is mid 20s, even though some other functions like spatial reasoning peaks in your late 50s. The reason you see teenagers doing so well is because they have less priorities and responsibilities. As much as we might like to say that gaming is mainstream, it really isn't, at least not yet. Many people lose their passion also the more they play the game. Just look at NaDa. His abilities didn't decline because of some physical or mental diminishing, but because his priorities shifted. Let's also not forget the fact that Korean gamers are interrupted for years in the early 20s due to conscription. I think it's a bit silly to say that playing Starcraft is more physically or mentally demanding than say, Nolan Ryan pitching at age 43. If major league baseball players can still be on the top of the world in their late 30s in such a demanding sport, what makes you think that humans can't play starcraft in their early and mid twenties at the top of the game? You have good insight. Playing video game is not nearly as demanding physically. I wouldn't be surprised 60 years old winning GSL if he/she has a chance and dedication to do so. Often times, people start to play games in teenage years. Therefore, it is only natural that some talents come up from those age bracket. When e-sports grow bigger and pro gamer career is taken more seriously by societies, then we might see more older age champions. For now, being younger is an advantage. Some say you have school, but if you start to work, school responsibility is such a joke compared to working responsibility. Maybe some youngsters don't understand that. I certainly didn't back then to be fair. Videogames really rely on your cognitive abilities, your reaction times and whatnot that decline relatively quickly. Plus only the young tend to have sufficient time to dedicate to playing full time which is probably part of it. Please don't tell me you are saying that playing starcraft is harder than trying to hit a 98MPH fastball, or a 87MPH Circle-Change coming from someone like Roy Halladay...As someone who extensively played RTS and Baseball for most of my life, I can definitely say, that playing baseball is much more demanding both physically and mentally, and the sport isn't dominated by 18-21 y/o's. Indeed, most don't peak until their late 20s or early 30s. There's a reason for this. You realize SC2 was released in 2010? When do you think the early 30s basketballer started playing basketball? At the age of 29? Not a chance. what? so you think that suppy is better than ret? I personally don't really like ret's playstyle but he has won international tournaments and done really well in many others but suppy doesn't have any accomplishments whatsoever (no doing decently in WCS usa doesn't count as an achievent... not even close to an achievement you could compare to some of ret's) strange point of view Whoever wins today is better. Whatever they achieved in the past means nothing. so suppy is now suddenly better than kas too? and goody is better than nestea because the only time the faced off goody won? yeah good logic lol Goody is actually a better player than both NesTea and MMA.
My brother beat Goody and I beat my brother. I lost to a silver league player once. WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?!?!
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[QUOTE]On August 03 2012 05:11 Badgesc wrote:
[QUOTE]On August 03 2012 05:09 HaXXspetten wrote:
[QUOTE]On August 03 2012 05:08 Coal wrote:
Man Soe is hot...[/QUOTE]
I prefer Woman Soe[/QUOTE]
Well played sir x)
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On August 03 2012 05:10 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2012 05:05 TheBanana wrote:On August 03 2012 05:00 CosmicSpiral wrote:On August 03 2012 04:59 Sepi wrote:On August 03 2012 04:56 dragonborn wrote:On August 03 2012 04:54 Sepi wrote:
I dont get this format. According to TLDB, Satiini has beaten MANA once. Now he has to do it again whit no advantage given. And he had to face forGG, which can be said that is the better player out of johnyrecco, which mana faced.
Why isn't he given any advantage over his opponent? This is the most stupid bracket system im seen so far. Satiini vs MaNa 3-2 ForGG vs jonnyrecco 3-2 ForGG vs Satiini 3-1 - Winners final, forGG advances MaNa vs Jonnyrecco 3-0 - jonnyrecco out MaNa vs Satiini - Losers final, winners advance. I know the GSL/winners format. But i think its stupid to copy it over to these tournaments aswell. Basically Mana gets free chance to beat his opponent again... Well.. its not up to me or us to decide, but i don't see the point of copying the format of overseas. You do realize how much worse round robin is, right? I don't, the GSL-groups has the most unfair system for a group stage I can think of. You need 2 wins, but if you have 1 amazing player, 1 horrible player and 2 mediocre players, one of the mediocre players gets a "free win" while the other gets a "sure loss". If the mediocre players play 1-1 the one with the free win advances. I don't see how round of robin is worse than that. Round robin is obviously more fair (which is why it is used in every real sport), but the GSL format has the advantage of being more convenient for the tournament oganizers.
With round robin, there can be meaningless games between two people that are already out, ugly games where the result only matters to one of the players, and ugly games where someone tries to fiddle with the seeding for the next stage of the tournament (like in those Badminton games at the Olympics).
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On August 03 2012 05:11 CosmicSpiral wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2012 05:10 Redox wrote:On August 03 2012 05:05 TheBanana wrote:On August 03 2012 05:00 CosmicSpiral wrote:On August 03 2012 04:59 Sepi wrote:On August 03 2012 04:56 dragonborn wrote:On August 03 2012 04:54 Sepi wrote:
I dont get this format. According to TLDB, Satiini has beaten MANA once. Now he has to do it again whit no advantage given. And he had to face forGG, which can be said that is the better player out of johnyrecco, which mana faced.
Why isn't he given any advantage over his opponent? This is the most stupid bracket system im seen so far. Satiini vs MaNa 3-2 ForGG vs jonnyrecco 3-2 ForGG vs Satiini 3-1 - Winners final, forGG advances MaNa vs Jonnyrecco 3-0 - jonnyrecco out MaNa vs Satiini - Losers final, winners advance. I know the GSL/winners format. But i think its stupid to copy it over to these tournaments aswell. Basically Mana gets free chance to beat his opponent again... Well.. its not up to me or us to decide, but i don't see the point of copying the format of overseas. You do realize how much worse round robin is, right? I don't, the GSL-groups has the most unfair system for a group stage I can think of. You need 2 wins, but if you have 1 amazing player, 1 horrible player and 2 mediocre players, one of the mediocre players gets a "free win" while the other gets a "sure loss". If the mediocre players play 1-1 the one with the free win advances. I don't see how round of robin is worse than that. Round robin is obviously more fair (which is why it is used in every real sport), but the GSL format has the advantage of being more convenient for the tournament oganizers. False assumption. The main reason round robin is used is because it gives the most games.
Also the main reason to not use round robin is because you avoid meaningless games (see olympic badminton)
It's not because you have to play one less match and that's easier...
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On August 03 2012 05:07 NoGasfOu wrote:
Wait, Kas is not sleepy anymore? Not sleeping for 48 hours and becoming tired and lose 0-3 to Suppy. Then played a few more long bo5's and his power is back? His power is probably charged from the PC?
Must be the adrenaline from the games.
But after you've been up for long, you still feel like shit even if you don't feel sleepy.
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On August 03 2012 05:12 ZAiNs wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2012 05:11 Zane wrote:On August 03 2012 05:09 sVnteen wrote:On August 03 2012 05:00 Orek wrote:On August 03 2012 04:59 sVnteen wrote:On August 03 2012 04:50 Shikyo wrote:On August 03 2012 04:47 Sated wrote:On August 03 2012 04:40 Type|NarutO wrote:On August 03 2012 04:38 Sated wrote:Where are the "Suppy only wins 3-0 because Kas is tired" people at? They are still strong I guess. Can't say how it would have went if Kas is in good condition. Could be the same, but I for mypart do also think it was Kas' lack of sleep. Just that some of us don't blame Suppy for winning. Not his fault Kas was tired. "Zombie" Kas has now taken two games off Ret, a player whose generally considered a better player than Suppy atm. S'all I'm saying Ret is considered a better player than Suppy? Not by me at least but whatever you say... Ret totally blew that last game though, he knew it was 2rax in the mid. I facepalmed when I saw him making 6 drones at once. As I pointed out earlier, Kas could have killed him even earlier. I don't get why he'd do that. Ret could have overkilled lings to kill that allin and THEN went full drones and he'd have been way ahead anyway, why doesn't he understand you don't need 60 drones vs 20 SCVs, having 40 drones vs 20 SCVs is just fine if it guarantees you don't die. On August 03 2012 04:50 Wegandi wrote:On August 03 2012 04:35 Wombat_NI wrote:On August 03 2012 04:32 Orek wrote:On August 03 2012 04:15 Wegandi wrote:
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Physical peak is late 20s, and mental peak generally is mid 20s, even though some other functions like spatial reasoning peaks in your late 50s. The reason you see teenagers doing so well is because they have less priorities and responsibilities. As much as we might like to say that gaming is mainstream, it really isn't, at least not yet. Many people lose their passion also the more they play the game. Just look at NaDa. His abilities didn't decline because of some physical or mental diminishing, but because his priorities shifted.
Let's also not forget the fact that Korean gamers are interrupted for years in the early 20s due to conscription. I think it's a bit silly to say that playing Starcraft is more physically or mentally demanding than say, Nolan Ryan pitching at age 43. If major league baseball players can still be on the top of the world in their late 30s in such a demanding sport, what makes you think that humans can't play starcraft in their early and mid twenties at the top of the game? You have good insight. Playing video game is not nearly as demanding physically. I wouldn't be surprised 60 years old winning GSL if he/she has a chance and dedication to do so. Often times, people start to play games in teenage years. Therefore, it is only natural that some talents come up from those age bracket. When e-sports grow bigger and pro gamer career is taken more seriously by societies, then we might see more older age champions. For now, being younger is an advantage. Some say you have school, but if you start to work, school responsibility is such a joke compared to working responsibility. Maybe some youngsters don't understand that. I certainly didn't back then to be fair. Videogames really rely on your cognitive abilities, your reaction times and whatnot that decline relatively quickly. Plus only the young tend to have sufficient time to dedicate to playing full time which is probably part of it. Please don't tell me you are saying that playing starcraft is harder than trying to hit a 98MPH fastball, or a 87MPH Circle-Change coming from someone like Roy Halladay...As someone who extensively played RTS and Baseball for most of my life, I can definitely say, that playing baseball is much more demanding both physically and mentally, and the sport isn't dominated by 18-21 y/o's. Indeed, most don't peak until their late 20s or early 30s. There's a reason for this. You realize SC2 was released in 2010? When do you think the early 30s basketballer started playing basketball? At the age of 29? Not a chance. what? so you think that suppy is better than ret? I personally don't really like ret's playstyle but he has won international tournaments and done really well in many others but suppy doesn't have any accomplishments whatsoever (no doing decently in WCS usa doesn't count as an achievent... not even close to an achievement you could compare to some of ret's) strange point of view Whoever wins today is better. Whatever they achieved in the past means nothing. so suppy is now suddenly better than kas too? and goody is better than nestea because the only time the faced off goody won? yeah good logic lol Goody is actually a better player than both NesTea and MMA. My brother beat Goody and I beat my brother. I lost to a silver league player once. WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?!?!
The logical conclusion is that my 4-year-old nephew is better than Goody, if we kept this chain going.
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On August 03 2012 05:12 ZAiNs wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2012 05:11 Zane wrote:On August 03 2012 05:09 sVnteen wrote:On August 03 2012 05:00 Orek wrote:On August 03 2012 04:59 sVnteen wrote:On August 03 2012 04:50 Shikyo wrote:On August 03 2012 04:47 Sated wrote:On August 03 2012 04:40 Type|NarutO wrote:On August 03 2012 04:38 Sated wrote:Where are the "Suppy only wins 3-0 because Kas is tired" people at? They are still strong I guess. Can't say how it would have went if Kas is in good condition. Could be the same, but I for mypart do also think it was Kas' lack of sleep. Just that some of us don't blame Suppy for winning. Not his fault Kas was tired. "Zombie" Kas has now taken two games off Ret, a player whose generally considered a better player than Suppy atm. S'all I'm saying Ret is considered a better player than Suppy? Not by me at least but whatever you say... Ret totally blew that last game though, he knew it was 2rax in the mid. I facepalmed when I saw him making 6 drones at once. As I pointed out earlier, Kas could have killed him even earlier. I don't get why he'd do that. Ret could have overkilled lings to kill that allin and THEN went full drones and he'd have been way ahead anyway, why doesn't he understand you don't need 60 drones vs 20 SCVs, having 40 drones vs 20 SCVs is just fine if it guarantees you don't die. On August 03 2012 04:50 Wegandi wrote:On August 03 2012 04:35 Wombat_NI wrote:On August 03 2012 04:32 Orek wrote:On August 03 2012 04:15 Wegandi wrote:
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Physical peak is late 20s, and mental peak generally is mid 20s, even though some other functions like spatial reasoning peaks in your late 50s. The reason you see teenagers doing so well is because they have less priorities and responsibilities. As much as we might like to say that gaming is mainstream, it really isn't, at least not yet. Many people lose their passion also the more they play the game. Just look at NaDa. His abilities didn't decline because of some physical or mental diminishing, but because his priorities shifted.
Let's also not forget the fact that Korean gamers are interrupted for years in the early 20s due to conscription. I think it's a bit silly to say that playing Starcraft is more physically or mentally demanding than say, Nolan Ryan pitching at age 43. If major league baseball players can still be on the top of the world in their late 30s in such a demanding sport, what makes you think that humans can't play starcraft in their early and mid twenties at the top of the game? You have good insight. Playing video game is not nearly as demanding physically. I wouldn't be surprised 60 years old winning GSL if he/she has a chance and dedication to do so. Often times, people start to play games in teenage years. Therefore, it is only natural that some talents come up from those age bracket. When e-sports grow bigger and pro gamer career is taken more seriously by societies, then we might see more older age champions. For now, being younger is an advantage. Some say you have school, but if you start to work, school responsibility is such a joke compared to working responsibility. Maybe some youngsters don't understand that. I certainly didn't back then to be fair. Videogames really rely on your cognitive abilities, your reaction times and whatnot that decline relatively quickly. Plus only the young tend to have sufficient time to dedicate to playing full time which is probably part of it. Please don't tell me you are saying that playing starcraft is harder than trying to hit a 98MPH fastball, or a 87MPH Circle-Change coming from someone like Roy Halladay...As someone who extensively played RTS and Baseball for most of my life, I can definitely say, that playing baseball is much more demanding both physically and mentally, and the sport isn't dominated by 18-21 y/o's. Indeed, most don't peak until their late 20s or early 30s. There's a reason for this. You realize SC2 was released in 2010? When do you think the early 30s basketballer started playing basketball? At the age of 29? Not a chance. what? so you think that suppy is better than ret? I personally don't really like ret's playstyle but he has won international tournaments and done really well in many others but suppy doesn't have any accomplishments whatsoever (no doing decently in WCS usa doesn't count as an achievent... not even close to an achievement you could compare to some of ret's) strange point of view Whoever wins today is better. Whatever they achieved in the past means nothing. so suppy is now suddenly better than kas too? and goody is better than nestea because the only time the faced off goody won? yeah good logic lol Goody is actually a better player than both NesTea and MMA. My brother beat Goody and I beat my brother. I lost to a silver league player once. WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?!?!
Now that you mention it I did beat a silver player once...
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Come on Mana. I can't handle you not going on to second group stages.
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No Incontrol, 4 is not a factor of 2  .
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ret losing to a zombie does not bode well for the TAC3
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I'm going to try and not watch Sase's game and see if he does any better. 
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This woman is quite fetching!
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On August 03 2012 05:15 fishjie wrote:
ret losing to a zombie does not bode well for the TAC3
TeamTaeja doesn't need Ret to win.
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Freddy the fly needs a fanclub imo
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She is quite beautiful indeed, gogo TLO
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On August 03 2012 04:15 Wegandi wrote:Many people lose their passion also the more they play the game. Just look at NaDa. His abilities didn't decline because of some physical or mental diminishing, but because his priorities shifted.
why would you think thatst he reason that theres basically never (at least recently) have been anyone whos peaked at 23 or even 22? 21 is probably really rare as well. I only know about the sc1 scene, thats what im talking about here
On August 03 2012 04:15 Wegandi wrote:what makes you think that humans can't play starcraft in their early and mid twenties at the top of the game?
probably because it pretty much has never happend.
I have pretty much seen noone whos peaked at 23 or even 22? 21 is probably really rare as well. I only know about the sc1 scene, thats what im talking about here
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TLO plus SOE (female) = winning casting duo.
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On August 03 2012 05:11 Coal wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2012 05:09 HaXXspetten wrote:On August 03 2012 05:08 Coal wrote:
Man Soe is hot... I prefer Woman Soe Touché ^____^ But seriously she is really attractive ^_^
Need the vod of tobi talking about her swearing, it's the most funny thing I think I've ever heard on stream, I cannot find it anywhere T_T
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EPT
