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ProxyKnoxy
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2576 Posts
August 02 2012 20:22 GMT
#3601
On August 03 2012 05:21 synaptik wrote:
shes commentating now.

dear lord, im going to have to pump so hard at the gym after this.


I know right I've never even seen an attractive woman before
"Zealot try give mariners high five. Mariners not like high five and try hide and shoot zealot"
MVTaylor
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2893 Posts
August 02 2012 20:22 GMT
#3602
On August 03 2012 05:18 Snowbear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 05:17 namste wrote:
There is a jealous Day9 watching this somewhere.


Are day9 and soe a couple?


He wishes.
@followMVT
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
August 02 2012 20:22 GMT
#3603
MaNa storming everything to death. One more pls!
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4769 Posts
August 02 2012 20:22 GMT
#3604
Mana get Your revange!!!
Pathetic Greta hater.
Cracy
Profile Joined October 2011
Poland221 Posts
August 02 2012 20:22 GMT
#3605
OMG What has just happened... GG Mana...
Oderint dum probent
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-02 20:24:10
August 02 2012 20:22 GMT
#3606
On August 03 2012 05:18 TheBanana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 05:09 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On August 03 2012 05:05 TheBanana wrote:
On August 03 2012 05:00 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:59 Sepi wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:56 dragonborn wrote:
On August 03 2012 04:54 Sepi wrote:
I dont get this format. According to TLDB, Satiini has beaten MANA once. Now he has to do it again whit no advantage given. And he had to face forGG, which can be said that is the better player out of johnyrecco, which mana faced.

Why isn't he given any advantage over his opponent? This is the most stupid bracket system im seen so far.

Satiini vs MaNa 3-2
ForGG vs jonnyrecco 3-2

ForGG vs Satiini 3-1 - Winners final, forGG advances
MaNa vs Jonnyrecco 3-0 - jonnyrecco out

MaNa vs Satiini - Losers final, winners advance.


I know the GSL/winners format. But i think its stupid to copy it over to these tournaments aswell.
Basically Mana gets free chance to beat his opponent again...

Well.. its not up to me or us to decide, but i don't see the point of copying the format of overseas.


You do realize how much worse round robin is, right?


I don't, the GSL-groups has the most unfair system for a group stage I can think of.
You need 2 wins, but if you have 1 amazing player, 1 horrible player and 2 mediocre players, one of the mediocre players gets a "free win" while the other gets a "sure loss".
If the mediocre players play 1-1 the one with the free win advances.

I don't see how round of robin is worse than that.


At the highest levels of gameplay, your initial assumption is a logical fallacy. Everybody can beat everybody on any given day; there are no easy wins. Even Suhosin was on the brink of defeating Mvp in group stages just because he chose the right strategies.

The round robin format has multiple instances where it would be advantageous to lose a game, or there is no incentive to win one. In winners' format you always want to win every series.


So you deny the obvious disadvantage the GSL-system has by pretending the opponents skill level doesn't matter. Yeah, I'll take you seriously for sure.


In the GSL skill level is at best indiscernible in a Bo3 series. It can easily distinguished over the course of a Bo100. Maybe if you organized a pros vs scrubs tournament this would be a relevant concern.

Your whining about skill level is irrelevant since there will always be disparities in skill level in every single group. The goal of a tournament format is not to create the most even groups, but to provide the greatest incentive to win every single game played. Round robin has been proven to not be this format multiple times in the past.

P.S. Assembly results have already contradicted your baseless whine about skill level.

WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
August 02 2012 20:23 GMT
#3607
--- Nuked ---
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
August 02 2012 20:23 GMT
#3608
On August 03 2012 05:21 synaptik wrote:
shes commentating now.

dear lord, im going to have to pump so hard at the gym after this.

Creepy...
Thruth
Profile Joined December 2011
Poland112 Posts
August 02 2012 20:23 GMT
#3609
"What The fuck is going on?" - Khaldor
Addict
Profile Joined July 2011
Belgium164 Posts
August 02 2012 20:23 GMT
#3610
Wolf and Khaldor's casting is really awesome
revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
August 02 2012 20:23 GMT
#3611
Round Robin stages is obviously much fairer system. Everyone plays everyone else. Order of Group is dictated by the results of these games. GSL Code S is not made up of 32 players who have equal chances of winning it. Some players are more likely than others. It seems pretty silly to pretend that there is no such thing as a lucky draw, especially when players can be less strong in a particular match up.
SinCitta
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany2127 Posts
August 02 2012 20:24 GMT
#3612
Awesome storms by MaNa, showing HuK how it's done.
Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
August 02 2012 20:24 GMT
#3613
On August 03 2012 05:21 synaptik wrote:
shes commentating now.

dear lord, im going to have to pump so hard at the gym after this.

She's never going to read your comment about going to the gym.
VisonKai
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2203 Posts
August 02 2012 20:24 GMT
#3614
GOOD JOB SASE. Whoever that guy was before, we're turning his luck around. Do not stop watching, whatever you do!
Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-02 20:24:55
August 02 2012 20:24 GMT
#3615
On August 03 2012 05:21 synaptik wrote:
shes commentating now.

dear lord, im going to have to pump so hard at the gym after this.

Okayyyyy then..

-----

Come on Sase!
Innovation | Flash | Mvp | Byun | TY
Shinobi1982
Profile Joined January 2011
1605 Posts
August 02 2012 20:24 GMT
#3616
Gotta love TheGD production . Incontrol and 2gd the most hilarious host combo in the business.
Train like an animal, eat like a horse, sleep like a baby, grow like a weed.
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
August 02 2012 20:24 GMT
#3617
so day9 got frienzoned ? :[
Terran & Potato Salad.
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
August 02 2012 20:24 GMT
#3618
Wolf and Khaldor have gotten so much better from when they first started casting for GomTV
¯\_(シ)_/¯
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-02 20:26:31
August 02 2012 20:25 GMT
#3619
On August 03 2012 05:23 revel8 wrote:
Round Robin stages is obviously much fairer system. Everyone plays everyone else. Order of Group is dictated by the results of these games. GSL Code S is not made up of 32 players who have equal chances of winning it. Some players are more likely than others. It seems pretty silly to pretend that there is no such thing as a lucky draw, especially when players can be less strong in a particular match up.


Maybe you should assemble a 32 man round robin stage and see how that works out. That's the only "fair" system in your opinion.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
MyLastSerenade
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany710 Posts
August 02 2012 20:25 GMT
#3620
nice to see my fav Terran Demuslim get through the groups, did he played Bischu twice or is the Wiki page just wrong? would love to know if he beat Moon!
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