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On August 03 2012 05:28 VisonKai wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2012 05:27 Broodwurst wrote:On August 03 2012 05:25 synaptik wrote: i love how she is wearing normal clothes rather than the diva tight dresses that the american host girls are so fond of. its much easier to look at, whereas the anna showgirl style is so exploitative. Everyone is wearing casual clothes there... The girls usually still wear ridiculous clothes when all the casters have casual clothes on in most tournaments.
If you say so
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TLO stop tickling her off screen.
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Satteliten Centrale pretty good unit
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Good old Satellitenzentrale... German version is indeed funny
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On August 03 2012 05:22 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2012 05:18 TheBanana wrote:On August 03 2012 05:09 CosmicSpiral wrote:On August 03 2012 05:05 TheBanana wrote:On August 03 2012 05:00 CosmicSpiral wrote:On August 03 2012 04:59 Sepi wrote:On August 03 2012 04:56 dragonborn wrote:On August 03 2012 04:54 Sepi wrote: I dont get this format. According to TLDB, Satiini has beaten MANA once. Now he has to do it again whit no advantage given. And he had to face forGG, which can be said that is the better player out of johnyrecco, which mana faced.
Why isn't he given any advantage over his opponent? This is the most stupid bracket system im seen so far. Satiini vs MaNa 3-2 ForGG vs jonnyrecco 3-2 ForGG vs Satiini 3-1 - Winners final, forGG advances MaNa vs Jonnyrecco 3-0 - jonnyrecco out MaNa vs Satiini - Losers final, winners advance. I know the GSL/winners format. But i think its stupid to copy it over to these tournaments aswell. Basically Mana gets free chance to beat his opponent again... Well.. its not up to me or us to decide, but i don't see the point of copying the format of overseas. You do realize how much worse round robin is, right? I don't, the GSL-groups has the most unfair system for a group stage I can think of. You need 2 wins, but if you have 1 amazing player, 1 horrible player and 2 mediocre players, one of the mediocre players gets a "free win" while the other gets a "sure loss". If the mediocre players play 1-1 the one with the free win advances. I don't see how round of robin is worse than that. At the highest levels of gameplay, your initial assumption is a logical fallacy. Everybody can beat everybody on any given day; there are no easy wins. Even Suhosin was on the brink of defeating Mvp in group stages just because he chose the right strategies. The round robin format has multiple instances where it would be advantageous to lose a game, or there is no incentive to win one. In winners' format you always want to win every series. So you deny the obvious disadvantage the GSL-system has by pretending the opponents skill level doesn't matter. Yeah, I'll take you seriously for sure. There's a slight problem in that the first series isn't that meaningful apart from giving you insurance that you don't need to beat that low-skilled player. However, ultimately the outcome of that group is determined by the match between the 2 mediocre players so I'm not sure what the problem is.
You can have the scenario where they are basically playing 2 BoX vs eachother and one advances with a draw, even if he loses on map score. Based on who gets the freebie.
I'm not saying the round robin system is perfect, It's just better imo.
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were u the guy who just posted the gym stuff? if yes even more creepy
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Satellitenzentrale is so much cooler than Orbital Command.
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On August 03 2012 05:28 Heavenlee wrote: Rule #142 of LRs: there will always be an unreasonable complaint about the tournament format no matter what, ESPECIALLY if a well-liked player fails to advance because of it.
Rule #423: Someone must make a comment regarding what the females are wearing, most likely a thread will pop up criticizing or praising their style depending on how offensive Victorian era gentlemen would find it.
Don't waste your time, just make a rule saying that everything will be complained about at least once.
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I think this is a good thing..
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can a native speaker please confirm if they are pronouncing "puma" correctly?
sounds like "pu" in "puke." i thought it would be more in line of "poo-ma"
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GG storms gratz for Mana!
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On August 03 2012 05:31 TheBanana wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2012 05:22 Shikyo wrote:On August 03 2012 05:18 TheBanana wrote:On August 03 2012 05:09 CosmicSpiral wrote:On August 03 2012 05:05 TheBanana wrote:On August 03 2012 05:00 CosmicSpiral wrote:On August 03 2012 04:59 Sepi wrote:On August 03 2012 04:56 dragonborn wrote:On August 03 2012 04:54 Sepi wrote: I dont get this format. According to TLDB, Satiini has beaten MANA once. Now he has to do it again whit no advantage given. And he had to face forGG, which can be said that is the better player out of johnyrecco, which mana faced.
Why isn't he given any advantage over his opponent? This is the most stupid bracket system im seen so far. Satiini vs MaNa 3-2 ForGG vs jonnyrecco 3-2 ForGG vs Satiini 3-1 - Winners final, forGG advances MaNa vs Jonnyrecco 3-0 - jonnyrecco out MaNa vs Satiini - Losers final, winners advance. I know the GSL/winners format. But i think its stupid to copy it over to these tournaments aswell. Basically Mana gets free chance to beat his opponent again... Well.. its not up to me or us to decide, but i don't see the point of copying the format of overseas. You do realize how much worse round robin is, right? I don't, the GSL-groups has the most unfair system for a group stage I can think of. You need 2 wins, but if you have 1 amazing player, 1 horrible player and 2 mediocre players, one of the mediocre players gets a "free win" while the other gets a "sure loss". If the mediocre players play 1-1 the one with the free win advances. I don't see how round of robin is worse than that. At the highest levels of gameplay, your initial assumption is a logical fallacy. Everybody can beat everybody on any given day; there are no easy wins. Even Suhosin was on the brink of defeating Mvp in group stages just because he chose the right strategies. The round robin format has multiple instances where it would be advantageous to lose a game, or there is no incentive to win one. In winners' format you always want to win every series. So you deny the obvious disadvantage the GSL-system has by pretending the opponents skill level doesn't matter. Yeah, I'll take you seriously for sure. There's a slight problem in that the first series isn't that meaningful apart from giving you insurance that you don't need to beat that low-skilled player. However, ultimately the outcome of that group is determined by the match between the 2 mediocre players so I'm not sure what the problem is. You can have the scenario where they are basically playing 2 BoX vs eachother and one advances with a draw, even if he loses on map score. Based on who gets the freebie. I'm not saying the round robin system is perfect, It's just better imo. I don't know I always find with Round Robin people get eliminated by some weird map countback, often to the detriment of players who I feel have shown bettergames. I haven't really seen that here thus far
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On August 03 2012 05:25 synaptik wrote: i love how she is wearing normal clothes rather than the diva tight dresses that the american host girls are so fond of. its much easier to look at, whereas the anna showgirl style is so exploitative. Its probably because Assembly is primarily a LAN event full of nerds like Dreamhack. Dressing up would look hilariously out of place.
Events like IPL/NASL/MLG are more about putting on a show, so they dress accordingly. But I agree that they tend to try way too hard with it.
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On August 03 2012 05:26 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2012 05:25 MyLastSerenade wrote:nice to see my fav Terran Demuslim get through the groups, did he played Bischu twice or is the Wiki page just wrong? would love to know if he beat Moon!  It's GSL style groups so it's match 1 match 2 match 3: winner of match 1 vs winner match 2 match 4: loser match 1 vs loser match 2 match 5: loser match 3 vs winner match 4 so yes, Demuslim played Bischu twice. He did not play vs Moon as Moon won his first two series
ahh ok now it makes sense, didnt know that ( going ashamed into a corner ) ~~
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Money storms right there :D
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Lol, these finnish players! :D
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On August 03 2012 05:25 CosmicSpiral wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2012 05:23 revel8 wrote: Round Robin stages is obviously much fairer system. Everyone plays everyone else. Order of Group is dictated by the results of these games. GSL Code S is not made up of 32 players who have equal chances of winning it. Some players are more likely than others. It seems pretty silly to pretend that there is no such thing as a lucky draw, especially when players can be less strong in a particular match up. Maybe you should assemble a 32 man round robin stage and see how that works out. Or do you not understand the point of a tournament format?
Every single football league in Europe operates under the same principle of a large round robin group of 20 or so teams. They call it a Division in the League. It is widely recognised to be the fairest system to determine the strongest and most consistent team during that season. Cup Tournaments involving teams randomly drawn against each other are recognised to have an element in luck involved as opponents can differ in strength. Not sure why this is even debateable.
Round Robin Groups of 4 with Top 2 advancing is a fairer system than GSL because a player in a GSL group can advance more easily if their opponent happened to be less formidable due to the luck of the draw. It is nonsensical to suggest otherwise.
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