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On August 03 2012 05:29 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2012 05:26 CryMeAReaper wrote:
Fun fact: Kas is only 9 wins away from having 1000 official tournament wins according to TLPD. That's a shitload. I believe he is the second player to achieve this as Nerchio is at 1089 wins. I dont really see anyone else even close to 1k
They are also the 2 most succesful online players in Europe, which is the continent which has by far the highest amount of cups/tournaments on a regular basis  super impressive nontheless
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Saseeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! I believe!
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United States97277 Posts
On August 03 2012 05:32 Derrida wrote:
can a native speaker please confirm if they are pronouncing "puma" correctly?
sounds like "pu" in "puke." i thought it would be more in line of "poo-ma"
It can be pronounced either way.
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Soe actually doing a pretty nice job 
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Satelieten centrale??? :D
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On August 03 2012 05:32 Derrida wrote:
can a native speaker please confirm if they are pronouncing "puma" correctly?
sounds like "pu" in "puke." i thought it would be more in line of "poo-ma"
Americans say "poo" and English "pu". When they asked puma what his name was, he said "pu".
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United States15275 Posts
You cannot base the point of a tournament format on fairness, or else you are forced to seriously consider idealistic nonsense like 32 man round robins.
On August 03 2012 05:32 revel8 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2012 05:25 CosmicSpiral wrote:On August 03 2012 05:23 revel8 wrote:
Round Robin stages is obviously much fairer system. Everyone plays everyone else. Order of Group is dictated by the results of these games. GSL Code S is not made up of 32 players who have equal chances of winning it. Some players are more likely than others. It seems pretty silly to pretend that there is no such thing as a lucky draw, especially when players can be less strong in a particular match up. Maybe you should assemble a 32 man round robin stage and see how that works out. Or do you not understand the point of a tournament format? Every single football league in Europe operates under the same principle of a large round robin group of 20 or so teams. They call it a Division in the League. It is widely recognised to be the fairest system to determine the strongest and most consistent team during that season. Cup Tournaments involving teams randomly drawn against each other are recognised to have an element in luck involved as opponents can differ in strength. Not sure why this is even debateable. Round Robin Groups of 4 with Top 2 advancing is a fairer system than GSL because a player in a GSL group can advance more easily if their opponent happened to be less formidable due to the luck of the draw. It is nonsensical to suggest otherwise.
And tournaments like Assembly do not have seasons. So's what your point, that round robin works given you have enough time (or that it is the most attractive option for broadcasted leagues because it provides the most games, which is the real reason why it's done)?
As I have already mentioned multiple times, a tournament format is not about fairness. Groups will always be unfair, drawings will always be unfair. Even if Assembly groups were round robin Suppy still had the advantage of playing a sleep-deprived Kas and a Ret who is in the middle of a ZvZ crisis. The only "fair" solution would be for him to play everybody and no one would take that notion seriously. The primary function of a tournament format is to make every victory meaningful, and therefore to diminish every opportunity for players to not play to win. Round robin fails to do this in multiple instances, winners format does not.
Even your example fails the obvious test. In the latter half of the season there will be many games that contribute nothing to the overall standings, and so teams will not play to win because it is irrelevant.
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United Kingdom14464 Posts
T_T Puma please close this out.
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I wanted to say "Satellitenzentrale" lol Orbital Command in german .
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On August 03 2012 05:33 AgentChaos wrote:
sase so cheesey
How do you even scout/stop this stuff ? Lets say he hides the robo and he scans main and only sees 3 gates? Who cares if he cuts probes cause terran has to pull workers then you just chrono probes??
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get help, for your own good. talk to some one.
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United States97277 Posts
On August 03 2012 05:33 CryMeAReaper wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2012 05:29 Shellshock1122 wrote:On August 03 2012 05:26 CryMeAReaper wrote:
Fun fact: Kas is only 9 wins away from having 1000 official tournament wins according to TLPD. That's a shitload. I believe he is the second player to achieve this as Nerchio is at 1089 wins. I dont really see anyone else even close to 1k They are also the 2 most succesful online players in Europe, which is the continent which has by far the highest amount of cups/tournaments on a regular basis super impressive nontheless
yea but the number of wins they are ahead is ridiculous. From checking the first 2 pages of international TLPD since it has way more games, it appears it goes
1st Nerchio: 1089 wins
2nd Kas: 991 wins
3rd Stephano: 585 wins
the gap between top 2 and 3rd O_o
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On August 03 2012 05:32 Derrida wrote:
can a native speaker please confirm if they are pronouncing "puma" correctly?
sounds like "pu" in "puke." i thought it would be more in line of "poo-ma"
Pyuma in British English and Pooma in American English
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On August 03 2012 05:34 RageBot wrote:Soe actually doing a pretty nice job
At least she's enjoying herself
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EPT
