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On August 03 2012 05:00 Sepi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2012 04:57 Zane wrote:On August 03 2012 04:54 Sepi wrote:
I dont get this format. According to TLDB, Satiini has beaten MANA once. Now he has to do it again whit no advantage given. And he had to face forGG, which can be said that is the better player out of johnyrecco, which mana faced.
Why isn't he given any advantage over his opponent? This is the most stupid bracket system im seen so far. You never watched GSL or OSL? Actually first OSL i watched was EVER 07 (; I just wondered why did they copy the winners format. I explained it a bit wrong though.
Personally I like a simple, single elimination bracket. But if it has to be groups, winners format is, imo, more entertaining than round robin.
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On August 03 2012 05:03 Asha` wrote:
Wow zombie kas advanced?
what a monster
maybe he plays better in zombie mode
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On August 03 2012 04:59 sVnteen wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2012 04:50 Shikyo wrote:On August 03 2012 04:47 Sated wrote:On August 03 2012 04:40 Type|NarutO wrote:On August 03 2012 04:38 Sated wrote:Where are the "Suppy only wins 3-0 because Kas is tired" people at?  They are still strong I guess. Can't say how it would have went if Kas is in good condition. Could be the same, but I for mypart do also think it was Kas' lack of sleep. Just that some of us don't blame Suppy for winning. Not his fault Kas was tired. "Zombie" Kas has now taken two games off Ret, a player whose generally considered a better player than Suppy atm. S'all I'm saying Ret is considered a better player than Suppy? Not by me at least but whatever you say... Ret totally blew that last game though, he knew it was 2rax in the mid. I facepalmed when I saw him making 6 drones at once. As I pointed out earlier, Kas could have killed him even earlier. I don't get why he'd do that. Ret could have overkilled lings to kill that allin and THEN went full drones and he'd have been way ahead anyway, why doesn't he understand you don't need 60 drones vs 20 SCVs, having 40 drones vs 20 SCVs is just fine if it guarantees you don't die. On August 03 2012 04:50 Wegandi wrote:On August 03 2012 04:35 Wombat_NI wrote:On August 03 2012 04:32 Orek wrote:On August 03 2012 04:15 Wegandi wrote:On August 03 2012 04:05 FatBat wrote:On August 03 2012 04:02 fakgfdgfdh wrote:On August 03 2012 02:40 Shikyo wrote:On August 03 2012 02:38 Resilient wrote:
16 year old barely loses to ForGG in a 3-2 series and some people here flame him for being arrogant/being inexperienced enough to apply ladder results to tournaments
stay classy Implying being 16 is a disadvantage? I'd say that's the best age for a player seems likely as i cant think of a single player whos ever peaked at 16 I think in theory its best age because your brain is at his peak aswell as physically, BUT at 16 you have school and in generell not so much time to play( parents etc.) Physical peak is late 20s, and mental peak generally is mid 20s, even though some other functions like spatial reasoning peaks in your late 50s. The reason you see teenagers doing so well is because they have less priorities and responsibilities. As much as we might like to say that gaming is mainstream, it really isn't, at least not yet. Many people lose their passion also the more they play the game. Just look at NaDa. His abilities didn't decline because of some physical or mental diminishing, but because his priorities shifted. Let's also not forget the fact that Korean gamers are interrupted for years in the early 20s due to conscription. I think it's a bit silly to say that playing Starcraft is more physically or mentally demanding than say, Nolan Ryan pitching at age 43. If major league baseball players can still be on the top of the world in their late 30s in such a demanding sport, what makes you think that humans can't play starcraft in their early and mid twenties at the top of the game? You have good insight. Playing video game is not nearly as demanding physically. I wouldn't be surprised 60 years old winning GSL if he/she has a chance and dedication to do so. Often times, people start to play games in teenage years. Therefore, it is only natural that some talents come up from those age bracket. When e-sports grow bigger and pro gamer career is taken more seriously by societies, then we might see more older age champions. For now, being younger is an advantage. Some say you have school, but if you start to work, school responsibility is such a joke compared to working responsibility. Maybe some youngsters don't understand that. I certainly didn't back then to be fair. Videogames really rely on your cognitive abilities, your reaction times and whatnot that decline relatively quickly. Plus only the young tend to have sufficient time to dedicate to playing full time which is probably part of it. Please don't tell me you are saying that playing starcraft is harder than trying to hit a 98MPH fastball, or a 87MPH Circle-Change coming from someone like Roy Halladay...As someone who extensively played RTS and Baseball for most of my life, I can definitely say, that playing baseball is much more demanding both physically and mentally, and the sport isn't dominated by 18-21 y/o's. Indeed, most don't peak until their late 20s or early 30s. There's a reason for this. You realize SC2 was released in 2010? When do you think the early 30s basketballer started playing basketball? At the age of 29? Not a chance. what? so you think that suppy is better than ret? I personally don't really like ret's playstyle but he has won international tournaments and done really well in many others but suppy doesn't have any accomplishments whatsoever (no doing decently in WCS usa doesn't count as an achievent... not even close to an achievement you could compare to some of ret's) strange point of view
if you don't look at the results but look at the games being played, ret has been playing at a fairly mediocre level (occasionally great macro play, consistently _bad_ unit control) for as long as i can remember now. his series against alicia at NASL was like watching two players trying to lose against each other 
which is a shame, 'cause ret does have his bouts of greatness. they usually get bogged down by his micro. now i don't know about suppy that much, but if he's showing impressive games and solid play lately (as i've heard), i'd easily rate him righer than ret.
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Woohoo, just got back, missed the both of the earlier BO5s but I'm so glad Kas advanced! Very, very, very nice!
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On August 03 2012 05:04 DertoQq wrote:maybe he plays better in zombie mode
Bratok does it all the time so...
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Satiini is looking strong for someone we barely see playing
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United Kingdom14464 Posts
Where is the Puma vs Sase game?
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This tension between TLO and 2GD. They should just get it over with...
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On August 03 2012 05:03 Type|NarutO wrote:
... to sum it up. He did
- No Gas FE
- double gas Factory
- 3rd CC
- Starport
- DOUBLE EBAY
- NO WALL
- NO BUNKER
and did hold the allin off with 7 workers lost? Kas is absolutely crazy.
... with both eyes closed xD
I'm zerg and I aint even mad :D
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On August 03 2012 05:03 calippo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2012 05:02 Mozdk wrote:
Gonna try to ask again:
Will there be matches after these initial group stages today? No 2nd groupstage starts tomorrow at 14.00 CET i think
Ok. I'll miss the first hour and a half, but I guess that's not as bad as it could be.
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On August 03 2012 05:05 MCDayC wrote:
Where is the Puma vs Sase game?
^ I'd like to know that too.
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Northern Ireland25964 Posts
On August 03 2012 05:03 HaXXspetten wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2012 05:01 Wombat_NI wrote:On August 03 2012 05:00 HaXXspetten wrote:On August 03 2012 04:58 Whatson wrote:On August 03 2012 04:55 Rhaegar_tar wrote:On August 03 2012 04:54 VisonKai wrote:On August 03 2012 04:52 DertoQq wrote:On August 03 2012 04:50 VisonKai wrote:On August 03 2012 04:49 Wombat_NI wrote:On August 03 2012 04:48 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
Sase showing that his training in Korea is really paying off... Not like he's never shown results, in fact he's got a pretty good record against Puma all-round. Stupid post Don't you know that whenever Sase loses it's obligated that fifty people call him a crappy player? I think this can apply for every players, unless you are called WhiteRa : D Not quite to the degree that it always happens to Sase. I have no idea why but people really want to believe that he's horrible. And actually I see it happen to WhiteRa all the time, tons of people make fun of him a lot and call him gold league and random crap, it's just a ton of people (like me) love him too. Because he is a cocky BMer, but unlike Naniwa he hasn't done much to back it up Wtf are you smoking? Sase is like the opposite of BM. to be fair he's said some things, like during WCS a few days ago for example, but he's not on Nani level Genuinely curious what did he say, paraphrased if necessary? Smth like "you only won cuz I have like 20 fps"
Sounds legit, I lose almost every time in the lategame PvZ battles due to that 
Also, man Kas what a boss, he looks like some Miami drug lord with his shirt and all.
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On August 03 2012 05:00 CosmicSpiral wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2012 04:59 Sepi wrote:On August 03 2012 04:56 dragonborn wrote:On August 03 2012 04:54 Sepi wrote:
I dont get this format. According to TLDB, Satiini has beaten MANA once. Now he has to do it again whit no advantage given. And he had to face forGG, which can be said that is the better player out of johnyrecco, which mana faced.
Why isn't he given any advantage over his opponent? This is the most stupid bracket system im seen so far. Satiini vs MaNa 3-2 ForGG vs jonnyrecco 3-2 ForGG vs Satiini 3-1 - Winners final, forGG advances MaNa vs Jonnyrecco 3-0 - jonnyrecco out MaNa vs Satiini - Losers final, winners advance. I know the GSL/winners format. But i think its stupid to copy it over to these tournaments aswell. Basically Mana gets free chance to beat his opponent again... Well.. its not up to me or us to decide, but i don't see the point of copying the format of overseas. You do realize how much worse round robin is, right?
I don't, the GSL-groups has the most unfair system for a group stage I can think of.
You need 2 wins, but if you have 1 amazing player, 1 horrible player and 2 mediocre players, one of the mediocre players gets a "free win" while the other gets a "sure loss".
If the mediocre players play 1-1 the one with the free win advances.
I don't see how round of robin is worse than that.
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On August 03 2012 05:05 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
Satiini is looking strong for someone we barely see playing
He's pretty old school, but has been under the radar.
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Dignitas, EG and Liquid confirmed for the finals!
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Northern Ireland25964 Posts
On August 03 2012 05:05 MCDayC wrote:
Where is the Puma vs Sase game?
ESV Stream last time I checked
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On August 03 2012 05:04 HaXXspetten wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2012 05:04 DertoQq wrote:On August 03 2012 05:03 Asha` wrote:
Wow zombie kas advanced?
what a monster maybe he plays better in zombie mode Bratok does it all the time so...
IIRC Bratok has a disease, or sth like that
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On August 03 2012 05:05 SilverStar wrote:^ I'd like to know that too.
twitch.tv/esvision
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