[Day 1] ASUS ROG Summer 2012 - Page 176

Zane

Romania3916 Posts

August 02 2012 20:04 GMT

#3501

On August 03 2012 05:00 Sepi wrote:

Actually first OSL i watched was EVER 07 (;

I just wondered why did they copy the winners format. I explained it a bit wrong though.

Personally I like a simple, single elimination bracket. But if it has to be groups, winners format is, imo, more entertaining than round robin.

DertoQq

France906 Posts

August 02 2012 20:04 GMT

#3502

On August 03 2012 05:03 Asha` wrote:
Wow zombie kas advanced?

what a monster

maybe he plays better in zombie mode

ikh

United Kingdom251 Posts

August 02 2012 20:04 GMT

#3503

On August 03 2012 04:59 sVnteen wrote:

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On August 03 2012 04:50 Shikyo wrote:

On August 03 2012 04:47 Sated wrote:

On August 03 2012 04:40 Type|NarutO wrote:

On August 03 2012 04:38 Sated wrote:
Where are the "Suppy only wins 3-0 because Kas is tired" people at?

They are still strong I guess. Can't say how it would have went if Kas is in good condition. Could be the same, but I for mypart do also think it was Kas' lack of sleep. Just that some of us don't blame Suppy for winning. Not his fault Kas was tired.

"Zombie" Kas has now taken two games off Ret, a player whose generally considered a better player than Suppy atm.

S'all I'm saying

Ret is considered a better player than Suppy? Not by me at least but whatever you say...

Ret totally blew that last game though, he knew it was 2rax in the mid. I facepalmed when I saw him making 6 drones at once. As I pointed out earlier, Kas could have killed him even earlier. I don't get why he'd do that. Ret could have overkilled lings to kill that allin and THEN went full drones and he'd have been way ahead anyway, why doesn't he understand you don't need 60 drones vs 20 SCVs, having 40 drones vs 20 SCVs is just fine if it guarantees you don't die.

On August 03 2012 04:50 Wegandi wrote:

On August 03 2012 04:35 Wombat_NI wrote:

On August 03 2012 04:32 Orek wrote:

On August 03 2012 04:15 Wegandi wrote:

On August 03 2012 04:05 FatBat wrote:

On August 03 2012 04:02 fakgfdgfdh wrote:

On August 03 2012 02:40 Shikyo wrote:

On August 03 2012 02:38 Resilient wrote:
16 year old barely loses to ForGG in a 3-2 series and some people here flame him for being arrogant/being inexperienced enough to apply ladder results to tournaments

stay classy

Implying being 16 is a disadvantage? I'd say that's the best age for a player

seems likely as i cant think of a single player whos ever peaked at 16

I think in theory its best age because your brain is at his peak aswell as physically, BUT at 16 you have school and in generell not so much time to play( parents etc.)

Physical peak is late 20s, and mental peak generally is mid 20s, even though some other functions like spatial reasoning peaks in your late 50s. The reason you see teenagers doing so well is because they have less priorities and responsibilities. As much as we might like to say that gaming is mainstream, it really isn't, at least not yet. Many people lose their passion also the more they play the game. Just look at NaDa. His abilities didn't decline because of some physical or mental diminishing, but because his priorities shifted.

Let's also not forget the fact that Korean gamers are interrupted for years in the early 20s due to conscription. I think it's a bit silly to say that playing Starcraft is more physically or mentally demanding than say, Nolan Ryan pitching at age 43. If major league baseball players can still be on the top of the world in their late 30s in such a demanding sport, what makes you think that humans can't play starcraft in their early and mid twenties at the top of the game?

You have good insight. Playing video game is not nearly as demanding physically. I wouldn't be surprised 60 years old winning GSL if he/she has a chance and dedication to do so. Often times, people start to play games in teenage years. Therefore, it is only natural that some talents come up from those age bracket. When e-sports grow bigger and pro gamer career is taken more seriously by societies, then we might see more older age champions. For now, being younger is an advantage. Some say you have school, but if you start to work, school responsibility is such a joke compared to working responsibility. Maybe some youngsters don't understand that. I certainly didn't back then to be fair.

Videogames really rely on your cognitive abilities, your reaction times and whatnot that decline relatively quickly. Plus only the young tend to have sufficient time to dedicate to playing full time which is probably part of it.

Please don't tell me you are saying that playing starcraft is harder than trying to hit a 98MPH fastball, or a 87MPH Circle-Change coming from someone like Roy Halladay...As someone who extensively played RTS and Baseball for most of my life, I can definitely say, that playing baseball is much more demanding both physically and mentally, and the sport isn't dominated by 18-21 y/o's. Indeed, most don't peak until their late 20s or early 30s. There's a reason for this.

You realize SC2 was released in 2010? When do you think the early 30s basketballer started playing basketball? At the age of 29? Not a chance.

what? so you think that suppy is better than ret?
I personally don't really like ret's playstyle but he has won international tournaments and done really well in many others but suppy doesn't have any accomplishments whatsoever (no doing decently in WCS usa doesn't count as an achievent... not even close to an achievement you could compare to some of ret's)

strange point of view

if you don't look at the results but look at the games being played, ret has been playing at a fairly mediocre level (occasionally great macro play, consistently _bad_ unit control) for as long as i can remember now. his series against alicia at NASL was like watching two players trying to lose against each other

which is a shame, 'cause ret does have his bouts of greatness. they usually get bogged down by his micro. now i don't know about suppy that much, but if he's showing impressive games and solid play lately (as i've heard), i'd easily rate him righer than ret.

StarVe

Germany13591 Posts

August 02 2012 20:04 GMT

#3504

Woohoo, just got back, missed the both of the earlier BO5s but I'm so glad Kas advanced!

Very, very, very nice!

HaXXspetten

Sweden15718 Posts

August 02 2012 20:04 GMT

#3505

On August 03 2012 05:04 DertoQq wrote:

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maybe he plays better in zombie mode

Bratok does it all the time so...

Lukeeze[zR]

Switzerland6838 Posts

August 02 2012 20:05 GMT

#3506

Satiini is looking strong for someone we barely see playing

MCDayC

United Kingdom14464 Posts

August 02 2012 20:05 GMT

#3507

Where is the Puma vs Sase game?

ACrow

Germany6583 Posts

August 02 2012 20:05 GMT

#3508

This tension between TLO and 2GD. They should just get it over with...

GuardianEU

Netherlands488 Posts

August 02 2012 20:05 GMT

#3509

On August 03 2012 05:03 Type|NarutO wrote:
... to sum it up. He did

- No Gas FE
- double gas Factory
- 3rd CC
- Starport
- DOUBLE EBAY
- NO WALL
- NO BUNKER

and did hold the allin off with 7 workers lost? Kas is absolutely crazy.

... with both eyes closed xD

I'm zerg and I aint even mad :D

Mozdk

Denmark6989 Posts

August 02 2012 20:05 GMT

#3510

On August 03 2012 05:03 calippo wrote:

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No 2nd groupstage starts tomorrow

at 14.00 CET i think

Ok. I'll miss the first hour and a half, but I guess that's not as bad as it could be.

SilverStar

Sweden18511 Posts

August 02 2012 20:05 GMT

#3511

On August 03 2012 05:05 MCDayC wrote:
Where is the Puma vs Sase game?

^ I'd like to know that too.

WombaT

Northern Ireland27477 Posts

August 02 2012 20:05 GMT

#3512

On August 03 2012 05:03 HaXXspetten wrote:

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Smth like "you only won cuz I have like 20 fps"

Sounds legit, I lose almost every time in the lategame PvZ battles due to that

Also, man Kas what a boss, he looks like some Miami drug lord with his shirt and all.

TheBanana

Norway2183 Posts

August 02 2012 20:05 GMT

#3513

On August 03 2012 05:00 CosmicSpiral wrote:

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You do realize how much worse round robin is, right?

I don't, the GSL-groups has the most unfair system for a group stage I can think of.
You need 2 wins, but if you have 1 amazing player, 1 horrible player and 2 mediocre players, one of the mediocre players gets a "free win" while the other gets a "sure loss".
If the mediocre players play 1-1 the one with the free win advances.

I don't see how round of robin is worse than that.