EPTAnd if he looses so be it, JRech is showing of a very strong style, even if he hasn't made the best battle decisions it's a style that should really catch on as an alternative to the early-third/mass roach style.
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Vansetsu
United States1454 Posts
And if he looses so be it, JRech is showing of a very strong style, even if he hasn't made the best battle decisions it's a style that should really catch on as an alternative to the early-third/mass roach style. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
On July 30 2012 04:18 Psychobabas wrote: As a Terran, can someone please explain to me one thing about PvZ. Does the protoss have to hit before broodlords to stand a chance. It looks like a real mess to me. i've seen protosses play a defensive late game style where they aim for mothership/templar/archon/blink stalker/carrier etc composition, and just play insanely defensive forever trying to lose less money in units than the zerg and then eventually win a big fight with their 200/200 and kill the zerg. or starve the zerg. | ||
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Tachion
Canada8573 Posts
On July 30 2012 04:18 travis wrote: it actually does bother me that nani snipes hatch, has perfect timing in his attack (just before corruptors), has incredible positioning, and still almost lost that game. i cant remember how squirtle beat ret i feel like he macrod up a bigger army faster than naniwa does? and constantly had perfect control/positioning i guess Naniwa takes forever to push across the map once he moves out, gives jonny like 3 minutes to mount a defense and morph broods, Squirtle moves out and just kills you before that. His timings are better. | ||
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Fede
Uruguay114 Posts
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aTnClouD
Italy2428 Posts
On July 30 2012 04:18 Psychobabas wrote: As a Terran, can someone please explain to me one thing about PvZ. Does the protoss have to hit before broodlords to stand a chance. It looks like a real mess to me. Yeah, they can just defend the whole game and then move out with an invincible army and very little micro required. User was warned for this post | ||
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Lukeeze[zR]
Switzerland6838 Posts
On July 30 2012 04:17 Ammoth wrote: Ohana as first AND last map? ://// OSL/MSL style | ||
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Snusmumriken
Sweden1717 Posts
On July 30 2012 04:19 Gigaudas wrote: Agree. Naniwa is playing poorly, even this last game. Recco played a safer than necessary, had a weak supply and Naniwa hit all the right timings. Everything went Naniwa's way but it was still close. yeah it kinda looked like he forcefielded off stuff all over only to just trade armies. I think he expected to win just then and there. | ||
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Engdrew
United States890 Posts
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kaokentake
383 Posts
On July 30 2012 04:18 travis wrote: it actually does bother me that nani snipes hatch, has perfect timing in his attack (just before corruptors), has incredible positioning, and still almost lost that game. i cant remember how squirtle beat ret i feel like he macrod up a bigger army faster than naniwa does? and constantly had perfect control/positioning i guess what i remember from squirtle vs ret is squirtle lost the first game where his 16 carriers got killed by what looked like 19 corrupters and 6 infestors then in the second game squirtle did 2base immortal allin and crushed ret dont remember games after that | ||
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Fubi
2228 Posts
On July 30 2012 04:18 TheHova wrote: This is why PvZ is so silly right now. Protoss basically just have tiny timings they have to hit and if they don't, the zerg just rolls them over unless a serious mistake is made. Luckily for Naniwa he hit it this game, but 20seconds later and he's dead. Not saying it's imbalanced or whatever. Just that i don't like the matchup at all. Sounds like T in TvP | ||
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Sajiki
Germany522 Posts
On July 30 2012 04:18 Porcelina wrote: Why is there so so so much balance whine in this thread? tt. quoted so EVERYONE can see it.. | ||
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m0ck
4194 Posts
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oogieogie
United States3657 Posts
On July 30 2012 04:17 ProxyKnoxy wrote: This matchup truly is stupid.. it's either a 2 base all in, or an attack before broodlords or zerg gets 17 broodlords vortex'd and they get obliterated by archons. | ||
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
On July 30 2012 04:18 Psychobabas wrote: As a Terran, can someone please explain to me one thing about PvZ. Does the protoss have to hit before broodlords to stand a chance. It looks like a real mess to me. Either you hit before broodlord with a colossi gateway ( perhaps archons ) army with upgrades and blink. Or you turtle hard and get an early mothership, harass a bitmore, then either try to win with a good vortex or the new trend of going carrier. And or the other side there's the Immortal 2 base all in / +2 blink all in / mass gateway unupdraged all in. Voilà, that's pretty much PvZ in a nuttshell. | ||
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TheSwamp
United States1497 Posts
I love this! | ||
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Zane
Romania3916 Posts
On July 30 2012 04:19 travis wrote: i've seen protosses play a defensive late game style where they aim for mothership/templar/archon/blink stalker/carrier etc composition, and just play insanely defensive forever trying to lose less money in units than the zerg and then eventually win a big fight with their 200/200 and kill the zerg. or starve the zerg. Or get a lucky vortex. | ||
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Makrel
Denmark150 Posts
On July 30 2012 04:20 oogieogie wrote: or zerg gets 17 broodlords vortex'd and they get obliterated by archons. If the zerg is unable to split | ||
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Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
On July 30 2012 04:18 TheHova wrote: This is why PvZ is so silly right now. Protoss basically just have tiny timings they have to hit and if they don't, the zerg just rolls them over unless a serious mistake is made. Luckily for Naniwa he hit it this game, but 20seconds later and he's dead. Not saying it's imbalanced or whatever. Just that i don't like the matchup at all. I am not so sure. The matchup seems the same - hinder the zerg before he can do what he wants. Major's games yesterday are PERFECT example! Bad, bad... HELLIONS, ROASTED DRONES, YAAAAAAAAAAY! That fourth snipe was huge too (hey Chill talking about that) | ||
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Toadvine
Poland2234 Posts
On July 30 2012 04:18 travis wrote: it actually does bother me that nani snipes hatch, has perfect timing in his attack (just before corruptors), has incredible positioning, and still almost lost that game. i cant remember how squirtle beat ret i feel like he macrod up a bigger army faster than naniwa does? and constantly had perfect control/positioning i guess One game with a 2 base all-in. One game with a 3 base timing, where Ret suicided all of his Infestors. One game with a 3 base timing, where Ret went 12 min Hive after opening Muta/ling, suicided all his mutas into cannons, and had no units at home to defend. | ||
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AmericanUmlaut
Germany2597 Posts
On July 30 2012 04:18 Psychobabas wrote: As a Terran, can someone please explain to me one thing about PvZ. Does the protoss have to hit before broodlords to stand a chance. It looks like a real mess to me. Basically, your choices are two-base timing, three base maxed attack before Broodlords, or tech to Mothership fast enough to have a Vortex ready when the Broodlords reach your base. | ||
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