EPTMLG Summer Arena [Day 2] - Page 71
| Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments |
|
JacobShock
Denmark2485 Posts
| ||
|
kakaman
United States1576 Posts
| ||
|
FairForever
Canada2392 Posts
On July 22 2012 05:19 Exarl25 wrote: Did you even watch the damn game? That attack was simply Stephano running his units in, Oz missed his forcefields and it was GG right there. Stephano did absolutely nothing impressive in that engagement, he didn't have to, it's all on the Protoss. Then why can't anyone else do what Stephano does? Stephano doesn't have great macro (although his inject itming is good) - it's his decision making as well as unit control that is so exceptional, particularly because Zergs typically have crap unit control. Put another zerg in that position and there's a good chance the fourth base is lost. | ||
|
Kevan
Sweden2303 Posts
| ||
|
ProxyKnoxy
United Kingdom2576 Posts
On July 22 2012 05:18 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote: The LR genuinely does understand the game better than casters. Now obviously Artosis and Day9 probably do realise that Oz was ahead and threw the game away with shit forcefields but for whatever reason they seem to think everyone wants to be lied to so they talk about bullshit like how well Stephano played or other random nonsense when forcefields were the only part of the game which mattered. The ffs weren't the only thing that mattered, even with good forcefields that push was doomed to fail. Once the sentries are gone via fungal, stalker/immortal will get demolished by ling/infestor. Stephano delayed his tech quite a lot, I'm not sure if he was expecting this push but it seemed like he was because delaying the tech meant he built a lot of low tier units that allowed him to crush it. | ||
|
Aeroplaneoverthesea
United Kingdom1977 Posts
| ||
|
nojok
France15846 Posts
On July 22 2012 05:18 Shiori wrote: The opening from Oz was nonstandard, but everything Stephano did was completely standard. He didn't change up his play 1 bit from what we saw at NASL. Lol. Are Zerg players really impressed by focus firing? Do they not watch TvP? Stephano managed to make standard the game vs hero on antiga when his 3rd was denied I guess... | ||
|
Chytilova
United States790 Posts
On July 22 2012 05:20 TheDougler wrote: i feel like you're wrong and that stephano micros more in his battles than 90% of zergs out there. I totally agree, but it's hard to argue he didn't just gun it against Oz and get a little lucky. | ||
|
NeonFox
2373 Posts
On July 22 2012 05:18 Derez wrote: Its basicly an a-move without even presplitting that decided the game. I honestly can't see interesting micro in that engagement from the Z side. (It was a terrible timing from Oz also) Yes Oz messed up, but fire up a replay from Stephano in ZvP, get the speed down to normal and watch what units he selects. You'll see him constantly repositioning small group of roaches and splitting packs of lings during the battle. Most of the zergs will just maybe bring in the roaches closer or try to surround with all their lings. | ||
|
Otolia
France5805 Posts
I should make of scrapbook of your whining. | ||
|
Toorgr
54 Posts
| ||
|
Aeroplaneoverthesea
United Kingdom1977 Posts
On July 22 2012 05:21 ProxyKnoxy wrote: The ffs weren't the only thing that mattered, even with good forcefields that push was doomed to fail. Once the sentries are gone via fungal, stalker/immortal will get demolished by ling/infestor. Stephano delayed his tech quite a lot, I'm not sure if he was expecting this push but it seemed like he was because delaying the tech meant he built a lot of low tier units that allowed him to crush it. Give MC that army in that position and it's gg. | ||
|
MarcH
United Kingdom362 Posts
On July 22 2012 05:18 Koshi wrote: Fuck, so sexy replay analys. I love it. Yep it is awesome but I feel that rather than having people stood in front of a screen they should be sat at a computer with a mouse so that they can really show what they want to and have their diagrams etc full screen so that the analysts don't block the action and they will have more control over what they are trying to show. | ||
|
Ksquared
United States1748 Posts
| ||
|
-TesteR-
Canada1165 Posts
well clearly you are a stephano fanboy and didn't actually watch the game? | ||
|
Pandain
United States12989 Posts
On July 22 2012 05:20 Asha` wrote: I see no reason that Oz can't transition into a typical stalker/sentry/immortal composition when his opponent tries the usual roach ling pressure. The only difference at that point is that Oz is in a better position than normal since his pressure play kept Stephano's drone count firmly in check. The build put him in a great position against what Stephano was doing, he just completely fucked up and missed his forcefields and lost the game as a result. But we're used to seeing Oz mess up under pressure by now =( Oh definitely, I was just giving an example to the "different strats equal different reactions". Stephano was playing roach ling, so OZ's strat was right, his mindset wasn't. He needed to wait until maxed and then push, maybe even with a couple collusus. | ||
|
Aeroplaneoverthesea
United Kingdom1977 Posts
On July 22 2012 05:21 nojok wrote: Stephano managed to make standard the game vs hero on antiga when his 3rd was denied I guess... You mean the game Hero had won and basically did the one thing which could completely throw it away? | ||
|
ProxyKnoxy
United Kingdom2576 Posts
On July 22 2012 05:21 JacobShock wrote: Axslav is so fucking smart. It makes complete sense to max out your army a bit more, if your opponent maxes out on lower tech units. I love his analysis. I know right haha? It makes so much more sense when someone else says it | ||
|
paintfive
785 Posts
| ||
|
Wingblade
United States1806 Posts
In a recent interview I think I heard that he would only play in GSTL for TSL since they parterned with Millenium. Maybe if he sees and experiences the studio and atmosphere he might change his mind. | ||
| ||
