could people here stop whining? Oz should not have attacked there and therefore fundamentally misplayed that, it's not "lol failed game design, one mistake and lose"

jmbthirteen

United States10734 Posts

July 21 2012 20:20 GMT

#1384

On July 22 2012 05:19 Koshi wrote:

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He will compete in Code S August. He already got the seed.

pretty sure he isn't. he told slasher he would be in GSTL but not GSL

habeck

1120 Posts

July 21 2012 20:20 GMT

#1385

On July 22 2012 05:19 Killerkrack wrote:

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Completely disagree, it's awesome.

Yup, i like it too!

aRyuujin

United States5049 Posts

July 21 2012 20:20 GMT

#1386

On July 22 2012 05:18 Gosi wrote:
Just got there. What was the "new style" Oz played againt Stephano people are talking about?

Nexus-> gate -> gate -> cybercore. 2 gate stalker pressure, like a pvp build with a nexus first

AndAgain

United States2621 Posts

July 21 2012 20:20 GMT

#1387

On July 22 2012 05:18 teddyoojo wrote:
this analysis thing is so fucking retarded

Go away.

MCDayC

United Kingdom14464 Posts

July 21 2012 20:20 GMT

#1388

On July 22 2012 05:19 HaXXspetten wrote:
half of the LR says tha analysis is amazing
other half says it's retarded

One point for Democracy!

Woooh!!!

Crushinator

Netherlands2138 Posts

July 21 2012 20:20 GMT

#1389

I really like what MLG are doing with the anaylsis moment here. First tournament to get that right.

Asha

United Kingdom38257 Posts

July 21 2012 20:20 GMT

#1390

On July 22 2012 05:18 Pandain wrote:
With Oz's build you can't play like the traditional ZvP.

Just like how you don't play the immortal sentry zvp vs two base muta.

Different strategies require different reactions, and a different mindset to play with.

In other news, MLG is fucking awesome.

I see no reason that Oz can't transition into a typical stalker/sentry/immortal composition when his opponent tries the usual roach ling pressure. The only difference at that point is that Oz is in a better position than normal since his pressure play kept Stephano's drone count firmly in check.

The build put him in a great position against what Stephano was doing, he just completely fucked up and missed his forcefields and lost the game as a result.

But we're used to seeing Oz mess up under pressure by now =(

heartlxp

United States1258 Posts

July 21 2012 20:20 GMT

#1391

On July 22 2012 05:20 Archybaldie wrote:
You know, people really need to start metagaming stephano. You know ... sending his hotel room many bottles of vodka the night before.

hahaha this is probly the best way to win

ZAiNs

United Kingdom6525 Posts

July 21 2012 20:20 GMT

#1392

Now there are only Koreans, Stephano and Goody.

yeint

Estonia2329 Posts

July 21 2012 20:20 GMT

#1393

On July 22 2012 05:19 HaXXspetten wrote:
half of the LR says tha analysis is amazing
other half says it's retarded

One point for Democracy!

If the "it's retarded" camp could give an example of a better way to fill time between games, I'd love to hear it.

I think it's a bit clumsy technically but the idea is great and should definitely be improved upon and done by every tournament in the future.

ssg

United States1777 Posts

July 21 2012 20:21 GMT

#1394

How did goody beat two ps?

mordk

Chile8385 Posts

July 21 2012 20:21 GMT

#1395

On July 22 2012 05:16 Reaps wrote:

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On July 22 2012 05:14 mordk wrote:

On July 22 2012 05:08 Reaps wrote:

On July 22 2012 05:04 mordk wrote:

On July 22 2012 04:44 Reaps wrote:

On July 22 2012 04:42 mordk wrote:
Taeja on his best level is better than anyone else, perhaps hero is there too. I haven't seen too much of Ryung lately but apparently he's really improved a fuckton.

I don't know how anyone votes PuMa. He only looks good vs most foreigners, the rest of the time he's really mediocre.

Sorry to break it to you but Puma has a winning record vs hero so not sure how you can name him and not puma. They played each other at like 5 diffrent tournments, 4 forgien and 1 in gsl, hero only won the one at dreamhack i belive.

And calling him medicore is deluded, you must not watch much sc2.

Hahahah LOL, I've watched SC2 since king of the beta

. I'm sorry to break it to you but head-to-head record says nothing about a player's skill level, we're talking about a broader idea here.

Puma has decent results in foreign tournaments, good results were a LONG ass time ago, while he has no results at all to speak of at GSL, lately he got completely dismantled by MC. while usually their matches went very close, which speaks of a lower progression of his skills.

Overall, puma is nothing too special, average korean terran I'd say. Around Keen level maybe? Keen is probably a bit better though. Which is not bad by itself. but nothing worth highlighting.

Did not mean to upset you, and going by what you just said ill stick to my comment that you're deluded. Sounds to me you are just a hater though, pointless argueing with someone like that, so i will not go into the whole GSL results thing.

Oh and head to head record DOES mean something when its not a mirror match up, espically when they faced each other 5 times lol.

Again sorry if i upset you, did not expect you to rage.

Sigh.. I'm not even close to being angry, I never rage over internet forums. And it means nothing because PuMa beating Hero doesn't mean he's a better player, it means he won those matches, nothing more. Particularly considering it's PuMa's best matchup vs Hero's worst matchup. It doesn't give a correct approach at the player's skill level.

People have overrated PuMa's skill level from the first day he appeared, he was very good at TvP in the 1-1-1 period, and that was it, he's nothing spectacular. The poll is asking which is the best KR in the list. I have no doubts both Taeja and Hero are better than Puma.

If anything Puma is underrated, he doesnt get enough credit for his play, but yeah lets just agree to disagree, its like talking to a wall with you. Probaly one of those EG haters. Which makes you pretty damn angry IMO.

Ok, I can agree to disagree, that's fine. There are facts though. His results haven't been good for a very long time and he's looked far below his best moment back when he played MC at NASL S1. But that was a long time ago and his best right now just doesn't seem to be keeping up with the metagame. Meanwhile both Hero and Taeja have done well recently. About this alleged anger... no comments really.

Medrea

10003 Posts

July 21 2012 20:21 GMT

#1396

On July 22 2012 05:19 Corrosive wrote:

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Probably from the pro players there who actually understand the game.

I wasn't talking about strategy. I was talking about getting the pulse of the audience.