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On July 16 2012 10:53 Tachion wrote:Wasn't too impressed with that celebration ;o I much prefer the GSL style where they get short interviews with the winner and loser and then the winner gets his moment to shine on stage. trophy kiss > all! ![[image loading]](http://kupax.com/files/9469_bggbs/JaedongSep09.jpg)
Yeah I always preferred those ceremonies. Seeing Nestea on stage kissing his trophy, enjoying his vindication as a progamer way back in GSL Open Season 2 is one of my favorite SC2 memories 
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On July 16 2012 10:49 Pur3_MaYheM wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2012 10:45 oniman999 wrote:On July 16 2012 10:39 rhs408 wrote:On July 16 2012 10:32 Antithesis wrote:On July 16 2012 10:29 Zeon0 wrote:
why are they dacing? i dont mind, but i just dont understand it? and then everyone is hugging everyone, never saw something like that in any other sport before^^ This is cracking me up because it's exactly how I felt. I enjoyed watching the ceremony, but it was kinda odd. I can't really believe they planned it like "Well, and when the final match is over, EVERYBODY ENTERS THE STAGE AND DANCES". I don't say it was bad, though. I have sort of mixed feelings on this "closing ceremony"... first of all, this was definitely an American type of victory celebration - this is what you see in baseball when the world series or even when playoff games are won, the team celebrates after the game in the locker room by spraying champagne on each other, some players may even start dancing around with each other, etc. All perfectly normal in that scenario. But here, it was just one guy who won, and basically the casters all come out, spray champagne on the winner, and then start dancing with him? Imagine if say, this happened when a major Tennis match is won? Do the Tennis TV annoucers come down, spray champagne on the champion, and then start dancing with him? I think it was all a good idea, we all got a good laugh out of it, but was a bit too "raw". Any feeling of "professional production" that was left went out the window. The winner certainly enjoyed the celebration though, I guess that's an important part of it all (even Alicia would have had a good time I think!), but I think this was more than a bit over the top. I have only ever seen one professional tennis match in my life, and when that match was the won, the winner threw his racket in the air, screamed, and ripped off his shirt (The heat had something to do with this I imagine). He did this on the court, as soon as the match was over, eventually falling to the ground and staying there for a while, but only after he threw his shirt into the crowd. I would much rather have a dance party to celebrate a tournament where fans can get involved and everyone can have some fun than a celebration like I saw in tennis. You are talking aobut djokovic after wining a big match, yeah thats pure emotion right there. As for "professional production" Most of thepeople participating in this league are kids in their 20s, theres no need for a ceremony with red carpets and long speeches, its a videogame ment to be fun, the tournament is meant to bring entertainment, a dance party with the winner seems right for the kind of event the NASL is
Yeah, I couldn't remember if the winner was Djokovic or Nadal. I should probably clarify that I saw nothing wrong with his celebration, it was like you said "pure emotion". I just didn't like the point that tennis is some purely professional 1v1 competition where stuff like that never happens. I like when people show emotion and have fun after a big win, which is why I liked this NASL finals celebration.
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On July 16 2012 10:39 mordk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2012 10:34 illsick wrote:On July 16 2012 10:30 SCST wrote:
I don't think GSL really suites Stephano's style . . . he doesn't catch me as the kind of guy who studies his opponents, or wants to wait around for days and weeks to play each match. He just wants to roll through to the end and cash in. Can't say I blame him, and I'm definitely a big fan because of it. He plays his style and doesn't worry too much on other people's style. He's been analyzed and studied a lot but yet he still is a dominant player. I think he can do well, just that there's so many people at his skill level in GSL. He's definitely one of the best players in the world. He's a dominant player who only just got his first big tournament. I think he's an awesome player, but don't think he'll magically get to korea and win the GSL. The competition there is far and above anything Stephano has won so far.
Lol man, what's with the fucking haters. Stephano has been finishing top 4 in so many major recent tournaments he participated in. MLG, Red Bull, IPL, NASL, he's been owning it up everywhere. His skill level is higher than both Naniwa and SaSe, who both made it into code S recently.
If Stephano would participate in Code S it would of course not be a guaranteed win, but he would have a better shot than the average Code S player most certainly.
He has already been to Korea once and the only reason he didn't do Code S was because he didn't want to. He only has to accept GOM's seed.
And I'm not saying this because I like Stephano. MKP has said in an interview that Stephano is Code S level, and I believe some other Code S players as well. Furthermore a lot of Broodwar Players (Jaedong et. al) are impressed with him.
Sure Stephano is not perfect, but he's one of the best players in the world and if you want to post comments like that you're in the wrong place at the wrong time bro. GTFO.
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On July 16 2012 10:54 Kflashman wrote:
Anyone else catch day[9] yelling into the mic "no pictures, dance time!" and then a few moments later shove somebody's camera back in their face?
No but since this was both of your two posts I'd say you're mad about it.
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On July 16 2012 10:55 HolyArrow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2012 10:53 Tachion wrote:Wasn't too impressed with that celebration ;o I much prefer the GSL style where they get short interviews with the winner and loser and then the winner gets his moment to shine on stage. trophy kiss > all! Yeah I always preferred those ceremonies. Seeing Nestea on stage kissing his trophy, enjoying his vindication as a progamer way back in GSL Open Season 2 is one of my favorite SC2 memories
Well it's kind of a different stage in terms of scale and importance...
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Stephano has beaten 16 different Koreans in the past 9 weeks or so since he decided to extend his career by an extra year. That includes Alicia and MC both twice. Plus Nerchio, Ret, Socke, Huk, BeastyQT. He has been defeated by Vodka 6 though!
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Are the WCS VODs going to be free since they are Blizzard's tournament and not part of NASL?
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On July 16 2012 10:32 SCST wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2012 10:30 PhoenixVoid wrote:
While Stephano has proven himself to be a player on par with Code S, I think the GSL environment is completely different from any tournament that Stephano has succeeded in. The fact that players are allowed to study Stephano and develop strategies that are specialized against him will make it so much more difficult for him to beat his opponents, especially when they too are Code S players. He might be able to make RO8, but anything beyond that is something I doubt. You must have missed the post above you that states that everyone has been studying Stephano for 6 months and he's still difficult/impossible to beat. That's because it's not a "style" or "build" that's allowing Stephano to win, it's because he's good at every part of the game. Except drinking . . . he's not good at drinking.
The other problem is that people spend all this time preparing for his big roach heavy aggression style, and then he does what he did in game 2 against MC and goes mutas. If Stephano makes a habit out of mixing muta play in everyonce in a while I don't think its a stretch to say he has the best zvp in the world. DRG's speciality has always been ZvT anyways
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GSL is too random,very high level but quite random and there are no other tournaments in Korea. Stephano likes dancing, sitting on Day9s lap and champagne, Sc2 training is for robot nerds in korea, europeans just want to make the most money with least effort out of this
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Well done by Stephano. The tournament overall was great to watch, but the ending ceremony seemed a little strange.
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On July 16 2012 10:57 revel8 wrote:
Stephano has beaten 16 different Koreans in the past 9 weeks or so since he decided to extend his career by an extra year. That includes Alicia and MC both twice. Plus Nerchio, Ret, Socke, Huk, BeastyQT. He has been defeated by Vodka 6 though!
He just got lucky by choosing zerg as his race. This isn't even a balance whine but honestly Z is very strong right now and its just easier to play than protoss or terran. He just wouldn't be winning with Terran especially.
T and P seem to be a race that is very weak late game vs Z and are forced to do all ins or timing pushes to stop the zerg.
User was temp banned for this post.
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On July 16 2012 10:53 Sbrubbles wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2012 10:49 Pur3_MaYheM wrote:On July 16 2012 10:45 oniman999 wrote:On July 16 2012 10:39 rhs408 wrote:On July 16 2012 10:32 Antithesis wrote:On July 16 2012 10:29 Zeon0 wrote:
why are they dacing? i dont mind, but i just dont understand it? and then everyone is hugging everyone, never saw something like that in any other sport before^^ This is cracking me up because it's exactly how I felt. I enjoyed watching the ceremony, but it was kinda odd. I can't really believe they planned it like "Well, and when the final match is over, EVERYBODY ENTERS THE STAGE AND DANCES". I don't say it was bad, though. I have sort of mixed feelings on this "closing ceremony"... first of all, this was definitely an American type of victory celebration - this is what you see in baseball when the world series or even when playoff games are won, the team celebrates after the game in the locker room by spraying champagne on each other, some players may even start dancing around with each other, etc. All perfectly normal in that scenario. But here, it was just one guy who won, and basically the casters all come out, spray champagne on the winner, and then start dancing with him? Imagine if say, this happened when a major Tennis match is won? Do the Tennis TV annoucers come down, spray champagne on the champion, and then start dancing with him? I think it was all a good idea, we all got a good laugh out of it, but was a bit too "raw". Any feeling of "professional production" that was left went out the window. The winner certainly enjoyed the celebration though, I guess that's an important part of it all (even Alicia would have had a good time I think!), but I think this was more than a bit over the top. I have only ever seen one professional tennis match in my life, and when that match was the won, the winner threw his racket in the air, screamed, and ripped off his shirt (The heat had something to do with this I imagine). He did this on the court, as soon as the match was over, eventually falling to the ground and staying there for a while, but only after he threw his shirt into the crowd. I would much rather have a dance party to celebrate a tournament where fans can get involved and everyone can have some fun than a celebration like I saw in tennis. You are talking aobut djokovic after wining a big match, yeah thats pure emotion right there. As for "professional production" Most of thepeople participating in this league are kids in their 20s, theres no need for a ceremony with red carpets and long speeches, its a videogame ment to be fun, the tournament is meant to bring entertainment, a dance party with the winner seems right for the kind of event the NASL is This is about the same way I feel. Lol@ Stephano doing shots in the back though. That could have been kept off camera  .
I missed that! any pics?
Somebody should start a thread for after tourney and backstage pictures, the suspense of what stephano is doing tonight kills me
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Wait Sase made it into Code S? I would love for this to be true, but source?
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On July 16 2012 11:01 Knight79 wrote:GSL is too random,very high level but quite random and there are no other tournaments in Korea. Stephano likes dancing, sitting on Day9s lap and champagne, Sc2 training is for robot nerds in korea, europeans just want to make the most money with least effort out of this
It's not really that random when you have 4-time, 3-time, and 2-time GSL Champions (with a possible 3rd championship for MC or a 2nd championship for DRG). There are often upsets but in the big picture you can see patterns of performance and consistency for various players.
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On July 16 2012 11:01 InMotion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2012 10:57 revel8 wrote:
Stephano has beaten 16 different Koreans in the past 9 weeks or so since he decided to extend his career by an extra year. That includes Alicia and MC both twice. Plus Nerchio, Ret, Socke, Huk, BeastyQT. He has been defeated by Vodka 6 though! He just got lucky by choosing zerg as his race. This isn't even a balance whine but honestly Z is very strong right now and its just easier to play than protoss or terran. He just wouldn't be winning with Terran especially. T and P seem to be a race that is very weak late game vs Z and are forced to do all ins or timing pushes to stop the zerg.
LOL. Just.. LOL
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On July 16 2012 11:01 InMotion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2012 10:57 revel8 wrote:
Stephano has beaten 16 different Koreans in the past 9 weeks or so since he decided to extend his career by an extra year. That includes Alicia and MC both twice. Plus Nerchio, Ret, Socke, Huk, BeastyQT. He has been defeated by Vodka 6 though! He just got lucky by choosing zerg as his race. This isn't even a balance whine but honestly Z is very strong right now and its just easier to play than protoss or terran. He just wouldn't be winning with Terran especially. T and P seem to be a race that is very weak late game vs Z and are forced to do all ins or timing pushes to stop the zerg.
But but but Stephano still won major tournaments when zerg was considered weak. Yawn
Btw probs to NASL amasing season and amasing final
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On July 16 2012 10:56 epicdemic wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2012 10:39 mordk wrote:On July 16 2012 10:34 illsick wrote:On July 16 2012 10:30 SCST wrote:
I don't think GSL really suites Stephano's style . . . he doesn't catch me as the kind of guy who studies his opponents, or wants to wait around for days and weeks to play each match. He just wants to roll through to the end and cash in. Can't say I blame him, and I'm definitely a big fan because of it. He plays his style and doesn't worry too much on other people's style. He's been analyzed and studied a lot but yet he still is a dominant player. I think he can do well, just that there's so many people at his skill level in GSL. He's definitely one of the best players in the world. He's a dominant player who only just got his first big tournament. I think he's an awesome player, but don't think he'll magically get to korea and win the GSL. The competition there is far and above anything Stephano has won so far. Lol man, what's with the fucking haters. Stephano has been finishing top 4 in so many major recent tournaments he participated in. MLG, Red Bull, IPL, NASL, he's been owning it up everywhere. His skill level is higher than both Naniwa and SaSe, who both made it into code S recently. If Stephano would participate in Code S it would of course not be a guaranteed win, but he would have a better shot than the average Code S player most certainly. He has already been to Korea once and the only reason he didn't do Code S was because he didn't want to. He only has to accept GOM's seed. And I'm not saying this because I like Stephano. MKP has said in an interview that Stephano is Code S level, and I believe some other Code S players as well. Furthermore a lot of Broodwar Players (Jaedong et. al) are impressed with him. Sure Stephano is not perfect, but he's one of the best players in the world and if you want to post comments like that you're in the wrong place at the wrong time bro. GTFO.
Sigh... when did I say he's not one of the best players in the world? Of course he is that's pretty much established...
What I'm saying, is people expect him to get to Korea, enter GSL and instagib everyone, which is certainly not gonna happen. GSL is tougher than all those tournaments
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On July 16 2012 11:01 Knight79 wrote:GSL is too random,very high level but quite random and there are no other tournaments in Korea. Stephano likes dancing, sitting on Day9s lap and champagne, Sc2 training is for robot nerds in korea, europeans just want to make the most money with least effort out of this
That's fine, I think everyone here can understand that. But if you only care about money you shouldn't complain about not being recognized "best player in the world".
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On July 16 2012 11:01 InMotion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2012 10:57 revel8 wrote:
Stephano has beaten 16 different Koreans in the past 9 weeks or so since he decided to extend his career by an extra year. That includes Alicia and MC both twice. Plus Nerchio, Ret, Socke, Huk, BeastyQT. He has been defeated by Vodka 6 though! He just got lucky by choosing zerg as his race. This isn't even a balance whine but honestly Z is very strong right now and its just easier to play than protoss or terran. He just wouldn't be winning with Terran especially. T and P seem to be a race that is very weak late game vs Z and are forced to do all ins or timing pushes to stop the zerg.
I don't know about the first part, but the second part is accurate against a tip top Zerg. Z late game is really good. Terran straight up can't beat it right now, and Protoss has to rely on a gimmick in order to beat it.
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On July 16 2012 11:01 InMotion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2012 10:57 revel8 wrote:
Stephano has beaten 16 different Koreans in the past 9 weeks or so since he decided to extend his career by an extra year. That includes Alicia and MC both twice. Plus Nerchio, Ret, Socke, Huk, BeastyQT. He has been defeated by Vodka 6 though! He just got lucky by choosing zerg as his race. This isn't even a balance whine but honestly Z is very strong right now and its just easier to play than protoss or terran. He just wouldn't be winning with Terran especially. T and P seem to be a race that is very weak late game vs Z and are forced to do all ins or timing pushes to stop the zerg.
just because you say its not a balance whine doesnt stoop it being a whine aboot balance
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