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On June 26 2012 21:30 nkr wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2012 21:29 KonohaFlash wrote:On June 26 2012 21:28 nkr wrote:On June 26 2012 21:27 SolidMustard wrote:On June 26 2012 21:25 nkr wrote:On June 26 2012 21:24 SolidMustard wrote:On June 26 2012 21:23 nkr wrote:On June 26 2012 21:23 SKYFISH_ wrote:On June 26 2012 21:22 nkr wrote:On June 26 2012 21:20 Dosey wrote:
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Explained. I was actually refering to the fact that he mentioned the ghost nerf in a game when zerg used mass infestors, when all that patch did vs infestor was making snipe 2shot infestors rather than 3shot. That's all that patch did vs infestors.So no, it was not explained. EMP AOE was nerfed ffs..... That was a patch long before the ghost snipe nerf. so what? The dude you originally quoted didn't specifically refer to the snipe nerf Not a single terran whined about TvZ when they nerfed EMP. Every terran whined about TvZ when snipe was nerfed. Snipe was buffed against infestors. /facepalm... We are talking are TvInfestors here, not TvBroodlords. /facepalm Ghosts were buffed against infestors in the recent patch. They always 2 shotted Infestors with Snipe, the patch did nothing lol. You're wrong.
He's not technically, if you shift queued them properly you could 2 snipe infestors before the patch.
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7/7 so far 
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On June 26 2012 21:29 KonohaFlash wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2012 21:28 nkr wrote:On June 26 2012 21:27 SolidMustard wrote:On June 26 2012 21:25 nkr wrote:On June 26 2012 21:24 SolidMustard wrote:On June 26 2012 21:23 nkr wrote:On June 26 2012 21:23 SKYFISH_ wrote:On June 26 2012 21:22 nkr wrote:On June 26 2012 21:20 Dosey wrote:On June 26 2012 21:18 nkr wrote:
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I think you can't actually explain it at all. On June 26 2012 21:01 Dosey wrote:
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Because it's the Terran way.
We complain about buffs while refusing to use our nerfed units. Explained. I was actually refering to the fact that he mentioned the ghost nerf in a game when zerg used mass infestors, when all that patch did vs infestor was making snipe 2shot infestors rather than 3shot. That's all that patch did vs infestors.So no, it was not explained. EMP AOE was nerfed ffs..... That was a patch long before the ghost snipe nerf. so what? The dude you originally quoted didn't specifically refer to the snipe nerf Not a single terran whined about TvZ when they nerfed EMP. Every terran whined about TvZ when snipe was nerfed. Snipe was buffed against infestors. /facepalm... We are talking are TvInfestors here, not TvBroodlords. /facepalm Ghosts were buffed against infestors in the recent patch. They always 2 shotted Infestors with Snipe, the patch did nothing lol.
It did. In theory Snipe should have 2-shotted infestors before the patch but since infestors regenerate that 1 health point between 2 snipes if the second one is only slightly delayed you almost always needed 3 snipes to kill an infestors
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Bomber will win this easily as long as he don't let zerg mass up broods. Upgrades and economy way ahead..
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Freaky his BL are too late. This wont end good.
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On June 26 2012 21:29 SolidMustard wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2012 21:28 nkr wrote:On June 26 2012 21:27 SolidMustard wrote:On June 26 2012 21:25 nkr wrote:On June 26 2012 21:24 SolidMustard wrote:On June 26 2012 21:23 nkr wrote:On June 26 2012 21:23 SKYFISH_ wrote:On June 26 2012 21:22 nkr wrote:On June 26 2012 21:20 Dosey wrote:On June 26 2012 21:18 nkr wrote:
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I think you can't actually explain it at all. On June 26 2012 21:01 Dosey wrote:
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Because it's the Terran way.
We complain about buffs while refusing to use our nerfed units. Explained. I was actually refering to the fact that he mentioned the ghost nerf in a game when zerg used mass infestors, when all that patch did vs infestor was making snipe 2shot infestors rather than 3shot. That's all that patch did vs infestors.So no, it was not explained. EMP AOE was nerfed ffs..... That was a patch long before the ghost snipe nerf. so what? The dude you originally quoted didn't specifically refer to the snipe nerf Not a single terran whined about TvZ when they nerfed EMP. Every terran whined about TvZ when snipe was nerfed. Snipe was buffed against infestors. /facepalm... We are talking are TvInfestors here, not TvBroodlords. /facepalm Ghosts were buffed against infestors in the recent patch. Then again, that's why he was referring to the previous nerf... but I don't give a shit, I don't even know why I answered to you in the first place
Actually no, he didn't specify, so it's natural to expect that he's complaining about the same patch as every other terran. And yeah, I don't know why you answered either.
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On June 26 2012 21:31 The KY wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2012 21:28 rothsbury wrote:On June 26 2012 21:25 Toadvine wrote:On June 26 2012 21:20 rothsbury wrote:On June 26 2012 21:17 Toadvine wrote:
Honestly though, Infestors are a pretty stupid unit. Massing spellcasters should never be viable, much less as good as mass Infestor is. It's not good against correct response. Have you seen MKP's (demuslim has done this also) mass bio + medivac against infestor ling? The medivacs out-heal the fungal growth and it's really effective. The zerg then needs to include speed banelings (which cuts into infestors, so it's no longer mass infestor) and then the terran has to split well. It's not "herp derp mass infestor -> win" unless the terran plays badly. I'm not saying mass Infestors is optimal, and don't really care about how Zerg matchups play out specifically. Caster units should just never be as versatile and self-sufficient as Infestors, they're supposed to support an army. This is the main reason Ghosts were nerfed, they were too versatile and too good when massed. I really do hope that HotS sees some Infestors nerfs, since they're a really dumb unit right now. Ghosts were nerfed because they were legitimately imbalanced against 3rd tier zerg (though the patch was stupid for this since it nerfed snipe against non-massive). What does it mean for a massed unit to be viable? Does the opponent have to not respond correctly? I wonder what other caster can be massed almost exclusively and do well against any composition...
Like I said, "does the opponent have to not respond correctly"? Mass infestors do not do well against any composition.
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not even bothering to worker split...
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BURROW the drones arfffffffffffffffffffffffff.
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Didn't even try and trap the hellions.
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Wolf and Khaldor called this game SOOOO poorly
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Should have had mass brood lords by now..
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On June 26 2012 21:32 rothsbury wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2012 21:31 The KY wrote:On June 26 2012 21:28 rothsbury wrote:On June 26 2012 21:25 Toadvine wrote:On June 26 2012 21:20 rothsbury wrote:On June 26 2012 21:17 Toadvine wrote:
Honestly though, Infestors are a pretty stupid unit. Massing spellcasters should never be viable, much less as good as mass Infestor is. It's not good against correct response. Have you seen MKP's (demuslim has done this also) mass bio + medivac against infestor ling? The medivacs out-heal the fungal growth and it's really effective. The zerg then needs to include speed banelings (which cuts into infestors, so it's no longer mass infestor) and then the terran has to split well. It's not "herp derp mass infestor -> win" unless the terran plays badly. I'm not saying mass Infestors is optimal, and don't really care about how Zerg matchups play out specifically. Caster units should just never be as versatile and self-sufficient as Infestors, they're supposed to support an army. This is the main reason Ghosts were nerfed, they were too versatile and too good when massed. I really do hope that HotS sees some Infestors nerfs, since they're a really dumb unit right now. Ghosts were nerfed because they were legitimately imbalanced against 3rd tier zerg (though the patch was stupid for this since it nerfed snipe against non-massive). What does it mean for a massed unit to be viable? Does the opponent have to not respond correctly? I wonder what other caster can be massed almost exclusively and do well against any composition... Like I said, "does the opponent have to not respond correctly"? Mass infestors do not do well against any composition.
Name the terran composition that they do not do well against.
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Did he really get away with that many Hellions? Man... this Zerg can't play Zerg without 'festors. Lol
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Hooray Bomber is going to win!
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Poor obs'ing by Legend just then, a rare thing to see
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On June 26 2012 21:31 FinestHour wrote:
i dont understand why hes making ravens again
Ravens are a terrible lategame unit, but their PDDs and HSM do synergize well with Mech. I'd say having 3-4 of them are good to have with a Mech composition.
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It's weird that Zerg, being called t3h decision making race, has reduced to essentially monobattling your way out of the game once you know the opponent's composition ;D
Edit: nvm he added infestors. Well I guess he can only make those now :D
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