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Dropping roaches one by one on that tank to have it killed by other tanks..so good :p
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Bomber is making a Raven....
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Drop in his main Freaky, its mech!
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Woot overcommitment with roach drops.
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i dont think freaky is ahead, i even think bomber is ahead
his tech is so delayed, and his upgrades are crap
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On June 26 2012 21:30 The KY wrote:
Tbh I thought that wasn't a very good attack. Casters getting excited but I'd say Bomber defended it fine.
Yup, he's in the lead comfortably.
Better upgrades better economy and better tech.
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On June 26 2012 21:29 KonohaFlash wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2012 21:28 nkr wrote:On June 26 2012 21:27 SolidMustard wrote:On June 26 2012 21:25 nkr wrote:On June 26 2012 21:24 SolidMustard wrote:On June 26 2012 21:23 nkr wrote:On June 26 2012 21:23 SKYFISH_ wrote:On June 26 2012 21:22 nkr wrote:On June 26 2012 21:20 Dosey wrote:On June 26 2012 21:18 nkr wrote:
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I think you can't actually explain it at all. On June 26 2012 21:01 Dosey wrote:
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Because it's the Terran way.
We complain about buffs while refusing to use our nerfed units. Explained. I was actually refering to the fact that he mentioned the ghost nerf in a game when zerg used mass infestors, when all that patch did vs infestor was making snipe 2shot infestors rather than 3shot. That's all that patch did vs infestors.So no, it was not explained. EMP AOE was nerfed ffs..... That was a patch long before the ghost snipe nerf. so what? The dude you originally quoted didn't specifically refer to the snipe nerf Not a single terran whined about TvZ when they nerfed EMP. Every terran whined about TvZ when snipe was nerfed. Snipe was buffed against infestors. /facepalm... We are talking are TvInfestors here, not TvBroodlords. /facepalm Ghosts were buffed against infestors in the recent patch. They always 2 shotted Infestors with Snipe, the patch did nothing lol.
You're wrong.
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On June 26 2012 21:30 The KY wrote:
Tbh I thought that wasn't a very good attack. Casters getting excited but I'd say Bomber defended it fine.
bomber is just lucky freaky didn't scout before choosing his tech path at the start of the game so his roach max with drops was late or it would have been ugly.
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Bomber should stabilize now. Freaky needs to tech up to Broods.
Bomber was probably always gonna stabilize off 4 bases.
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Oh no, the first raven is out,
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On June 26 2012 21:30 Die4Ever wrote:
Bomber is making a Raven....
Oh god not again! SeeKeR missiles!
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On June 26 2012 21:29 KonohaFlash wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2012 21:28 nkr wrote:On June 26 2012 21:27 SolidMustard wrote:On June 26 2012 21:25 nkr wrote:On June 26 2012 21:24 SolidMustard wrote:On June 26 2012 21:23 nkr wrote:On June 26 2012 21:23 SKYFISH_ wrote:On June 26 2012 21:22 nkr wrote:On June 26 2012 21:20 Dosey wrote:On June 26 2012 21:18 nkr wrote:
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I think you can't actually explain it at all. On June 26 2012 21:01 Dosey wrote:
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Because it's the Terran way.
We complain about buffs while refusing to use our nerfed units. Explained. I was actually refering to the fact that he mentioned the ghost nerf in a game when zerg used mass infestors, when all that patch did vs infestor was making snipe 2shot infestors rather than 3shot. That's all that patch did vs infestors.So no, it was not explained. EMP AOE was nerfed ffs..... That was a patch long before the ghost snipe nerf. so what? The dude you originally quoted didn't specifically refer to the snipe nerf Not a single terran whined about TvZ when they nerfed EMP. Every terran whined about TvZ when snipe was nerfed. Snipe was buffed against infestors. /facepalm... We are talking are TvInfestors here, not TvBroodlords. /facepalm Ghosts were buffed against infestors in the recent patch. They always 2 shotted Infestors with Snipe, the patch did nothing lol.
That's not completly true : they 2 shotted infestors if you did the snipe at the exact same time, now you don't care
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On June 26 2012 21:31 pdd wrote:
Bomber should stabilize now. Freaky needs to tech up to Broods.
You mean infestors
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Soon a protoss player will reveal the unstoppable caster strategy...mass nexus, cannons, and 50 high templar.
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raven and ship weapons on the way for bomber.
Raven...
Ship weapon...
OH GOD NOT AGAIN
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Why bother with ravens again bomber :/.
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On June 26 2012 21:28 rothsbury wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2012 21:25 Toadvine wrote:On June 26 2012 21:20 rothsbury wrote:On June 26 2012 21:17 Toadvine wrote:
Honestly though, Infestors are a pretty stupid unit. Massing spellcasters should never be viable, much less as good as mass Infestor is. It's not good against correct response. Have you seen MKP's (demuslim has done this also) mass bio + medivac against infestor ling? The medivacs out-heal the fungal growth and it's really effective. The zerg then needs to include speed banelings (which cuts into infestors, so it's no longer mass infestor) and then the terran has to split well. It's not "herp derp mass infestor -> win" unless the terran plays badly. I'm not saying mass Infestors is optimal, and don't really care about how Zerg matchups play out specifically. Caster units should just never be as versatile and self-sufficient as Infestors, they're supposed to support an army. This is the main reason Ghosts were nerfed, they were too versatile and too good when massed. I really do hope that HotS sees some Infestors nerfs, since they're a really dumb unit right now. Ghosts were nerfed because they were legitimately imbalanced against 3rd tier zerg (though the patch was stupid for this since it nerfed snipe against non-massive). What does it mean for a massed unit to be viable? Does the opponent have to not respond correctly?
I wonder what other caster can be massed almost exclusively and do well against any composition...
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i dont understand why hes making ravens again
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On June 26 2012 21:30 nkr wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2012 21:29 KonohaFlash wrote:On June 26 2012 21:28 nkr wrote:On June 26 2012 21:27 SolidMustard wrote:On June 26 2012 21:25 nkr wrote:On June 26 2012 21:24 SolidMustard wrote:On June 26 2012 21:23 nkr wrote:On June 26 2012 21:23 SKYFISH_ wrote:On June 26 2012 21:22 nkr wrote:On June 26 2012 21:20 Dosey wrote:
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Explained. I was actually refering to the fact that he mentioned the ghost nerf in a game when zerg used mass infestors, when all that patch did vs infestor was making snipe 2shot infestors rather than 3shot. That's all that patch did vs infestors.So no, it was not explained. EMP AOE was nerfed ffs..... That was a patch long before the ghost snipe nerf. so what? The dude you originally quoted didn't specifically refer to the snipe nerf Not a single terran whined about TvZ when they nerfed EMP. Every terran whined about TvZ when snipe was nerfed. Snipe was buffed against infestors. /facepalm... We are talking are TvInfestors here, not TvBroodlords. /facepalm Ghosts were buffed against infestors in the recent patch. They always 2 shotted Infestors with Snipe, the patch did nothing lol. You're wrong.
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Snipe
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On June 26 2012 21:30 nkr wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2012 21:28 s3rp wrote:On June 26 2012 21:26 nkr wrote:On June 26 2012 21:26 ZenithM wrote:On June 26 2012 21:22 Daray wrote:On June 26 2012 21:20 habeck wrote:On June 26 2012 21:18 nkr wrote:On June 26 2012 21:18 habeck wrote:On June 26 2012 21:17 nkr wrote:On June 26 2012 21:16 habeck wrote:
Thats why BLIZZ shouldnt NERFED ghost so hard ??? He never made a ghost, lol Well, im too tired to explain this to you I think you can't actually explain it at all. Why cant I? Why were everybody telling bomber to make ghosts? But he didnt, as he know, that they aren't as good as they used to be. In old times, Terran could mass Ghosts and win, just like Zerg did now with infestors. I wish ghosts werent that useless as they are now in TvZ Dude, what did they change that Ghosts became useless against Infestor only? i3owkri3uj2453456425325832589325 That's the point though. Infestors are good against everything. Ghosts are only good against Infestors. You don't want mass ghosts, but you need mass ghosts to take on that many infestors. You don't want to execute a strategy that only mildly counters what your opponent is doing without any way of getting back at him if it succeeds and take an offensive stance. And what zerg army is good without infestors? Which means you can have ghosts in any terran army. If you waste too much supply in Ghost the Terran army becomes terrible in direct combat . The zerg army is terrible in direct combat when you disable infestors.
No matter what you say, they will never agree that Ghosts have a use any more. They are hopelessly convinced they are useless.
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