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Zawndi
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden5 Posts
June 18 2012 21:27 GMT
#5321
Oohh moba games are so insanely boring to watch.
Snusmumriken
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden1717 Posts
June 18 2012 21:27 GMT
#5322
WTF is on the stream right now? Looks horrible. Is that league of legends?
Amove for Aiur
Encrym
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden25 Posts
June 18 2012 21:27 GMT
#5323
On June 19 2012 06:26 Integra wrote:
Funny how one of the heroes are an exact ripoff of the Warcraft 3 hero bloodmage


They all are copies of wc3 heroes. Dota 2 is a remake of Dota 1 with a new engine and in a seperate game. In dota 1, all heroes were warcraft 3 hero models.
[17]Purple
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom3489 Posts
June 18 2012 21:27 GMT
#5324
On June 19 2012 06:26 Integra wrote:
Funny how one of the heroes are an exact ripoff of the Warcraft 3 hero bloodmage

Who? Invoker? He was already in the original Dota...
"Turn Disadvantages into Disadvantages" and "Collect Telephones". The secrets of Chinese success.
NexUmbra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Scotland3776 Posts
June 18 2012 21:28 GMT
#5325
On June 19 2012 06:26 Integra wrote:
Funny how one of the heroes are an exact ripoff of the Warcraft 3 hero bloodmage


Its because Dota was originally a UMS for WC3 so most of the heroes used WC3 models(Anti-Mage is illidan and Razor is Arthas for example)
Life has won two GSLs and a Blizzard Cup. NOT three GSLs.
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
June 18 2012 21:28 GMT
#5326
On June 19 2012 06:27 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 06:24 Fishgle wrote:
On June 19 2012 06:22 SarcasmMonster wrote:
On June 19 2012 06:21 Latham wrote:
On June 19 2012 06:19 Mambo wrote:
Oh god its boring to watch moba:S


It's the final game, no team wants to take any extra uncalculated risks. They're playing to their lineup's strengths =)
So games we get 6 kills in 18 mins, some we get 30 kills in 18 mins.
I do admit this game is a bit boring, but again, both teams have a lot on the line in this final game of the tournament.


Is a "boring" play-style the strongest way to play? (Like Flash from BW )

there isnt really a best playstyle. Drafting is a big decider in what kind of game it will be. A couple months ago it was a super Push meta, and games would be over in about 25 minutes average. It was ridiculous. And then there's chinese games of average length about.... 80 minutes?


My... Flash...

I always wanted pro SC2 games to last longer on average (more high ground advantage please ), but 80 minutes is a movie...

maybe we could get SC2 players to stare at the screen picking units for 15 minutes before even starting the game, that would prolong it.
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
June 18 2012 21:28 GMT
#5327
On June 19 2012 06:26 Integra wrote:
Funny how one of the heroes are an exact ripoff of the Warcraft 3 hero bloodmage


Dota was made in the warcraft engine, they had to use the same unit model.
And people are attached to these model, so valve try to use them if blizzard agree. ( they didn't about some of them )
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
MrCash
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1504 Posts
June 18 2012 21:28 GMT
#5328
After spectating SC2 for so much, watching Dota2 observers is so hectic, almost nauseating.
Feels like they could use some more smoother or more consolidated camera movement.
The whole thing is so jittery and jumping around way too much, they could likely greatly benefit from the double camera features that are done by NASL, MLG and EG MCSL.
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9588 Posts
June 18 2012 21:28 GMT
#5329
On June 19 2012 06:22 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 06:21 Latham wrote:
On June 19 2012 06:19 Mambo wrote:
Oh god its boring to watch moba:S


It's the final game, no team wants to take any extra uncalculated risks. They're playing to their lineup's strengths =)
Some games we get 6 kills in 18 mins, some we get 30 kills in 18 mins.
I do admit this game is a bit boring, but again, both teams have a lot on the line in this final game of the tournament.


Is a "boring" play-style the strongest way to play? (Like Flash from BW )


Depends on the team and on the lineup. "Russian" dota is usually aggressive, while asian dota is very farm centric.
Some teams favour heavy pusher lineups to end the game by the 20-30 min mark, some pick a hero that excels at late game fighting with the proper items, and 4 other heroes to support him (so he won't die, has easy farm etc.) which turn into 60+ minute games.

Lone druid (the guy with the bear) is pretty long game centric, because he can in theory have 12 items on him, while other heroes can only have 6 (he can carry himself and his bear can also have 6 items). Tinker (the one teleporting everywhere) also needs some expensive items to become potentially very powerful. So mTw are trying to contain Na'Vi until these 2 can out right kill the other team.
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/user/LathamTK/builds/#view=CrqmP6
Hnnngg
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1101 Posts
June 18 2012 21:28 GMT
#5330
On June 19 2012 06:26 Integra wrote:
Funny how one of the heroes are an exact ripoff of the Warcraft 3 hero bloodmage


The universe depends on what he can remember of it, and he definitely doesn't remember that.
Flayer.
Profile Joined May 2012
Turkey31 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-18 21:28:37
June 18 2012 21:28 GMT
#5331
wow nice tornado!! and all mtw teleports wow what a team game :D

I really had nerdchills when all mTw teleported to tower when their fellow player was in danger !
I sense a soul in search of answers
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 18 2012 21:28 GMT
#5332
On June 19 2012 06:26 Asha` wrote:
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On June 19 2012 06:26 Drazerk wrote:
On June 19 2012 06:25 SupLilSon wrote:
On June 19 2012 06:22 skipdog172 wrote:
Does DOTA2 have the whole 'last-hit' thing where you get bonus gold from creep when you deal the killing blow? I liked LoL, but the requirements to get good at last-hitting really turned me away. It just isn't fun to last-hit things at all imo.


Yea, and it's alot more important than last hitting in LoL. And you also have to last hit your own creeps to "deny"


Don't forget you have to also do this on towers


And on Hassy

My favorite thing to do is to deny hassy
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L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
June 18 2012 21:28 GMT
#5333
On June 19 2012 06:26 Integra wrote:
Funny how one of the heroes are an exact ripoff of the Warcraft 3 hero bloodmage

dota was a war3 custom where most hero's is a rip off a wc3 unit, in this game we have

dreadlord demon hunter bloodmage tinker, i cant remember the others, some are made up, but majority are wc3 units or heros or creeps etc
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Massing
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany354 Posts
June 18 2012 21:28 GMT
#5334
big play.. pressing a button
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 18 2012 21:28 GMT
#5335
On June 19 2012 06:27 KadaverBB wrote:
I gotta say, the observer UI in Hon seems to be way better than dota 2.
Would love to see XP per minute and gold per minute and stuff.

Its still in beta though right? Maybe they will improve it


Funny how most dota fans would say the HoN UI is much worse
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
June 18 2012 21:29 GMT
#5336
Ya, the demon hunter just soloed some creeps, maximum XP for him!
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
June 18 2012 21:29 GMT
#5337
Can we hear a "PLAGUUUUUUUUUU" when venomancer ults? It would help me smile
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
June 18 2012 21:29 GMT
#5338
On June 19 2012 06:26 Integra wrote:
Funny how one of the heroes are an exact ripoff of the Warcraft 3 hero bloodmage


Most heroes are based on wc3 heroes, since dota 1 was basically just a wc3 custom map.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
illu23
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany71 Posts
June 18 2012 21:29 GMT
#5339
This must be one of the more boring esports to watch. Been looking at it for some time, nothing really changed.

It actually looks like one of those Bud Spencer & Terence Hill movies. A whole bunch of guys just beating each other up for 20 minutes.
Odi et amo. Quare id faciam fortasse requiris. Nescio, sed fieri sentio et excrucior.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 18 2012 21:29 GMT
#5340
On June 19 2012 06:28 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 06:26 Asha` wrote:
On June 19 2012 06:26 Drazerk wrote:
On June 19 2012 06:25 SupLilSon wrote:
On June 19 2012 06:22 skipdog172 wrote:
Does DOTA2 have the whole 'last-hit' thing where you get bonus gold from creep when you deal the killing blow? I liked LoL, but the requirements to get good at last-hitting really turned me away. It just isn't fun to last-hit things at all imo.


Yea, and it's alot more important than last hitting in LoL. And you also have to last hit your own creeps to "deny"


Don't forget you have to also do this on towers


And on Hassy

My favorite thing to do is to deny hassy


Especially when you know he is going to survive
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