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shr0ud
Profile Joined April 2011
Finland222 Posts
June 18 2012 21:23 GMT
#5281
SC2 should've started already.
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
June 18 2012 21:23 GMT
#5282
On June 19 2012 06:11 nufcrulz wrote:
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On June 19 2012 06:09 Flayer. wrote:
On June 19 2012 06:06 [17]Purple wrote:
On June 19 2012 06:05 Flayer. wrote:
On June 19 2012 06:04 nufcrulz wrote:
On June 19 2012 06:01 Linwelin wrote:
So can someone explain what's the big deal with Anti mage being picked?


he's a hard carry who needs loads of farm to be super effective against all the other heroes on the other team. basically he'll farm for 30 minutes or so, and if he gets enough key items, he'll be able to basically 1v5 in the late game.

what are the ideal items to go 1v5?


ideally you want to avoid any 1v5s, never is good unless you play Spectre.

still haven't answered my question

btw which one is better Dendi or Synderen? I heard Dendi is a legend but I insta-liked that synderen guy I don't know why


Dendi is widely recognized to be the best solo mid player in the world. I think in terms of in game skill, dendi is better. but synderen is more of a captain/strategist, he picks the lanes and heroes for his team, basically looks at the big picture..

in terms of core items for the anti mage:

usually battle fury (cleave item that allows him to farm faster) first, then probably manta style (which allows him to deal more damage and faster) and then heart of tarrasque (makes him harder to die) or butterfly (another item that make him deal more damage).

i dont think so, about 10 chinese players have better mid than dendi.
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Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
June 18 2012 21:23 GMT
#5283
On June 19 2012 06:22 SarcasmMonster wrote:
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On June 19 2012 06:21 Latham wrote:
On June 19 2012 06:19 Mambo wrote:
Oh god its boring to watch moba:S


It's the final game, no team wants to take any extra uncalculated risks. They're playing to their lineup's strengths =)
So games we get 6 kills in 18 mins, some we get 30 kills in 18 mins.
I do admit this game is a bit boring, but again, both teams have a lot on the line in this final game of the tournament.


Is a "boring" play-style the strongest way to play? (Like Flash from BW )


No, but this is mTw's style and Na'Vi do not have the heroes to take a lot of risks this game.
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
June 18 2012 21:23 GMT
#5284
On June 19 2012 06:22 Chenz wrote:
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On June 19 2012 06:21 NexUmbra wrote:
On June 19 2012 06:20 Chenz wrote:
What happens when all the geodudes appear? Do you take damage if you touch them?


Yes that is Tinkers ability, Tinkers ultimate skill resets the cooldown of all his abilities so he can use the 'Geodude' spell a ton of times, when he starts sparkling that is him using a Teleport to get back to base, he can use a lot of Teleports by reseting the cooldown via his ultimate as well.

But teleport is a scroll you buy right? He still has to buy one for each time he teleports?


You can buy Boots of Travels, a much more expensive pair of boots that let's you use them as a TP. They have the CD but no gold cost, so they are great for Tinker.
Encrym
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden25 Posts
June 18 2012 21:23 GMT
#5285
On June 19 2012 06:22 skipdog172 wrote:
Does DOTA2 have the whole 'last-hit' thing where you get bonus gold from creep when you deal the killing blow? I liked LoL, but the requirements to get good at last-hitting really turned me away. It just isn't fun to last-hit things at all imo.


Actually it is more last hitting than LoL, you last hit friendly units too in Dota 2
Woizit
Profile Joined June 2011
801 Posts
June 18 2012 21:23 GMT
#5286
On June 19 2012 06:22 youngminii wrote:
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On June 19 2012 06:22 skipdog172 wrote:
Does DOTA2 have the whole 'last-hit' thing where you get bonus gold from creep when you deal the killing blow? I liked LoL, but the requirements to get good at last-hitting really turned me away. It just isn't fun to last-hit things at all imo.

hahahaa

you'd HATE dota


Unfortunately for you, DOTA takes it to the next level with creep denials ( last hitting your own creep to prevent the opponent from getting it )
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
June 18 2012 21:23 GMT
#5287
On June 19 2012 06:23 shr0ud wrote:
SC2 should've started already.

well dota is still going, and they are on the main stage so they gotta wait for dota to finish before sc2 starts.
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
June 18 2012 21:23 GMT
#5288
I thought Finals should be starting already....
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-18 21:24:23
June 18 2012 21:23 GMT
#5289
On June 19 2012 06:22 Chenz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 06:21 NexUmbra wrote:
On June 19 2012 06:20 Chenz wrote:
What happens when all the geodudes appear? Do you take damage if you touch them?


Yes that is Tinkers ability, Tinkers ultimate skill resets the cooldown of all his abilities so he can use the 'Geodude' spell a ton of times, when he starts sparkling that is him using a Teleport to get back to base, he can use a lot of Teleports by reseting the cooldown via his ultimate as well.

But teleport is a scroll you buy right? He still has to buy one for each time he teleports?


Tinkers typcially buy Boots of travel which let you teleport to anywhere on the map. Using their rearm skill they can bounce around to almost anywhere on the map very quickly since it resets cooldown
Flayer.
Profile Joined May 2012
Turkey31 Posts
June 18 2012 21:23 GMT
#5290
On June 19 2012 06:22 Encrym wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 06:20 Chenz wrote:
What happens when all the geodudes appear? Do you take damage if you touch them?


Its one of tinkers (the robots) abilities. They hurt you when you touch them, and it is mostly used to clear creep waves. His ultimate resets cooldowns (costs a lot of mana). And he always gets boots that allow you to teleport to any non-hero friendly unit on the map. Combining the boots with the ultimate he can teleport all over the map and clear creep waves

isn't that too much mana dependant? can you do that early game?
I sense a soul in search of answers
Mambo
Profile Joined February 2012
Denmark1338 Posts
June 18 2012 21:23 GMT
#5291
On June 19 2012 06:21 Latham wrote:
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On June 19 2012 06:19 Mambo wrote:
Oh god its boring to watch moba:S


It's the final game, no team wants to take any extra uncalculated risks. They're playing to their lineup's strengths =)
Some games we get 6 kills in 18 mins, some we get 30 kills in 18 mins.
I do admit this game is a bit boring, but again, both teams have a lot on the line in this final game of the tournament.


Well i just find moba boring to watch in general. SC2 is much better to spectate i think. Moba is only fun when ur playing them urself.
Boxer | MVP | Taeja | TLO | Grubby | Bunny (danish)
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
June 18 2012 21:24 GMT
#5292
On June 19 2012 06:22 skipdog172 wrote:
Does DOTA2 have the whole 'last-hit' thing where you get bonus gold from creep when you deal the killing blow? I liked LoL, but the requirements to get good at last-hitting really turned me away. It just isn't fun to last-hit things at all imo.


It does ( it's one of the key mechanic from the dota like game )
But dota has "deny" too, where you can kill your own creep to deny the last hit from the ennemy. ( so they don't get gold )
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Zorgaz
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2951 Posts
June 18 2012 21:24 GMT
#5293
Ah man i want to see the finals..... =/
Furthermore, I think the Collosi should be removed! (Zorgaz -Terran/AbrA-Random/Zorg-Dota2) Guineapigs <3
NexUmbra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Scotland3776 Posts
June 18 2012 21:24 GMT
#5294
On June 19 2012 06:22 Chenz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 06:21 NexUmbra wrote:
On June 19 2012 06:20 Chenz wrote:
What happens when all the geodudes appear? Do you take damage if you touch them?


Yes that is Tinkers ability, Tinkers ultimate skill resets the cooldown of all his abilities so he can use the 'Geodude' spell a ton of times, when he starts sparkling that is him using a Teleport to get back to base, he can use a lot of Teleports by reseting the cooldown via his ultimate as well.

But teleport is a scroll you buy right? He still has to buy one for each time he teleports?


I was simplifying it, Tinker has boots(item you buy which makes you move faster) which contain a teleport on them anyway, 99% of heroes pick them up in late game however because they cost so much Tinker is the only Hero to buy them consistently
Life has won two GSLs and a Blizzard Cup. NOT three GSLs.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46221 Posts
June 18 2012 21:24 GMT
#5295
On June 19 2012 06:22 Broodwurst wrote:
which stream is live now?


http://sv.twitch.tv/dreamhacktv
This one.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
nufcrulz
Profile Joined February 2010
Singapore934 Posts
June 18 2012 21:24 GMT
#5296
On June 19 2012 06:23 [17]Purple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 06:22 SarcasmMonster wrote:
On June 19 2012 06:21 Latham wrote:
On June 19 2012 06:19 Mambo wrote:
Oh god its boring to watch moba:S


It's the final game, no team wants to take any extra uncalculated risks. They're playing to their lineup's strengths =)
So games we get 6 kills in 18 mins, some we get 30 kills in 18 mins.
I do admit this game is a bit boring, but again, both teams have a lot on the line in this final game of the tournament.


Is a "boring" play-style the strongest way to play? (Like Flash from BW )


ask the Chinese, kings of the ricefest!


well recently the trend has been to tower push and end the game in 20-30 minutes though (much like a 2 base timing push )
KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25658 Posts
June 18 2012 21:24 GMT
#5297
Havent watched dota in a while, this is nice

Gogo MTW of course
AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
June 18 2012 21:24 GMT
#5298
On June 19 2012 06:23 Woizit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 06:22 youngminii wrote:
On June 19 2012 06:22 skipdog172 wrote:
Does DOTA2 have the whole 'last-hit' thing where you get bonus gold from creep when you deal the killing blow? I liked LoL, but the requirements to get good at last-hitting really turned me away. It just isn't fun to last-hit things at all imo.

hahahaa

you'd HATE dota


Unfortunately for you, DOTA takes it to the next level with creep denials ( last hitting your own creep to prevent the opponent from getting it )

and the ability to deny creeps to keep creep equilbrium is a HUGE part of dota, itd be so hard to farm if whenever you farm you push
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
Encrym
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden25 Posts
June 18 2012 21:24 GMT
#5299
On June 19 2012 06:23 Flayer. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 06:22 Encrym wrote:
On June 19 2012 06:20 Chenz wrote:
What happens when all the geodudes appear? Do you take damage if you touch them?


Its one of tinkers (the robots) abilities. They hurt you when you touch them, and it is mostly used to clear creep waves. His ultimate resets cooldowns (costs a lot of mana). And he always gets boots that allow you to teleport to any non-hero friendly unit on the map. Combining the boots with the ultimate he can teleport all over the map and clear creep waves

isn't that too much mana dependant? can you do that early game?


Not really, but you can teleport to your base where you regenerate health and mana really fast
[17]Purple
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom3489 Posts
June 18 2012 21:24 GMT
#5300
On June 19 2012 06:23 Flayer. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 06:22 Encrym wrote:
On June 19 2012 06:20 Chenz wrote:
What happens when all the geodudes appear? Do you take damage if you touch them?


Its one of tinkers (the robots) abilities. They hurt you when you touch them, and it is mostly used to clear creep waves. His ultimate resets cooldowns (costs a lot of mana). And he always gets boots that allow you to teleport to any non-hero friendly unit on the map. Combining the boots with the ultimate he can teleport all over the map and clear creep waves

isn't that too much mana dependant? can you do that early game?


Teleporting to your fountain increases your mana regen to absurd levels allowing you to spam the abilities.
"Turn Disadvantages into Disadvantages" and "Collect Telephones". The secrets of Chinese success.
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