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Dfgj
Singapore5922 Posts
On June 18 2012 20:06 Thinasy wrote: Well this is also true, seems easier to expand frequently with the chargelot + HT army comp then colossus though aswell. Also feels like chargelot/ht has a more fragile timing window than colo builds do before they really get their momentum. Sure doesn't slow down Parting though. | ||
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
You're welcome! | ||
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FakeDeath
Malaysia6060 Posts
On June 18 2012 20:05 -y0shi- wrote: Honest question, how does toss deal with this? It looks so stupid, mc cant be everywhere at once and if hes slightly out of place once hes dead because marauders destroy your whole base in the blink of an eye. My PvTs always look like this  And its absolutly risk free for ganzi, he can always turn around his medivacs and once his units are loaded out there is no way they wont be worth it. He should have observers at key drop location. ESPECIALLY THAT AREA at daybreak. He let it happen twice. He had 3 observers and blink at the first game and yet not have one at the ohana very popular terran drop location. That is so wrong.Ganzi play a very huge gamble if he does doom drop like that unless he scan ahead of time but that tells toss you are dropping. Especially in the first game when MC had blink stalkers Ganzi still went for a huge doom drop WITHOUT SCANNING. Ganzi likes taking big risk and that paid off. | ||
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Salteador Neo
Andorra5591 Posts
On June 18 2012 20:07 DJHelium wrote: Take a third, tech to HT, leave a much smaller part of your army (feedback+stalkers) compared to what T has stuck . Attack, win. MC just waited far too long with the third. During that window of time MC only had ranged Collo, no Templar tech yet. When he got templar tech instead of a third, his eco got way behind. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On June 18 2012 20:06 Talack wrote: He was implying that massing marauders is effective in TvP and it can be only if your opponent is heavily invested in stalker and very low on zealot. Under all situations you need to be more marine heavy to deal with zealot heavy compositions with ghost/viking support. Marauders work best as a meat shield rather than as DPS. Alot of games are lost because of how inefficient marauders are at killing zealots before you can get to the collosus or templars/archons. well yeah of course I just mean in that situation where MC has already been beaten into the ground mass marauder will do just fine if he's trying to fight you off with only storms and a few units, they are more cost efficient than marines in that scenario. | ||
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Loxley
Netherlands2480 Posts
On June 18 2012 20:04 Dodgin wrote: mass chargelots is not going to stop 50 marauders with medivac support, they have a lot of health. Chargelots rip apart Marauders.. But in small numbers, a big group of marauders is really hard to kill. Their range and bulkyness lets them stay in chokes/between buildings which zealots will have a hard time reaching/killing. I really wonder how to stop so much marauders at that point.. Force fields with storm? i dunno  | ||
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Talack
Canada2742 Posts
On June 18 2012 20:09 Dodgin wrote: well yeah of course I just mean in that situation where MC has already been beaten into the ground mass marauder will do just fine if he's trying to fight you off with only storms and a few units, they are more cost efficient than marines in that scenario. That makes sense. | ||
Shellshock
United States97274 Posts
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Salteador Neo
Andorra5591 Posts
On June 18 2012 20:10 Loxley wrote: Chargelots rip apart Marauders.. But in small numbers, a big group of marauders is really hard to kill. Their range and bulkyness lets them stay in chokes/between buildings which zealots will have a hard time reaching/killing. I really wonder how to stop so much marauders at that point.. Force fields with storm? i dunno To beat the efficient Marauder then you need a big army with good composition and control really. | ||
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Shellshock
United States97274 Posts
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Sp00ly
United Kingdom1546 Posts
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Toadvine
Poland2234 Posts
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masakenji
Australia415 Posts
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Roarer
Hong Kong124 Posts
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SgtCoDFish
United Kingdom1520 Posts
That guy gets 50 funny points and a pat on the back :D | ||
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Fragile51
Netherlands15767 Posts
On June 18 2012 20:13 Sp00ly wrote: Rooting for Ganzi here so MC wont have to play him again. With the way MC is playing today i don't think you have to worry about that :/ | ||
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Rkie
United States1278 Posts
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FakeDeath
Malaysia6060 Posts
On June 18 2012 20:13 Toadvine wrote: I still think getting up to 4 medivacs, and then playing excessively greedy while threatening a doomdrop is something Terrans should look into as a standard way of playing. The only thing Protoss can really do is take a third base, and he'll be significantly behind afterwards. 4 medivacs with full units? That is a huge gamble if toss are prepared for drops. | ||
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
On June 18 2012 20:04 Dodgin wrote: mass chargelots is not going to stop 50 marauders with medivac support, they have a lot of health. maurauders dont kill zealots | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
read my other post 50 marauders will most certainly kill 15 zealots and ht's | ||
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