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Austria24422 Posts
On June 18 2012 20:09 Dfgj wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 20:06 Thinasy wrote:On June 18 2012 20:05 Pandemona wrote:On June 18 2012 20:02 Thinasy wrote:On June 18 2012 20:01 pdd wrote:
I don't understand why MC looks really bad at PvT. Well I'm not sure why he keeps going for colossus instead of Chargelot + HT's which is way more efficient (looking @ ST protosses) then transitioning into colossus in late-game instead You can still go Colli first, you just need to hit them within the time limit before they get there 2nd starport >.< MC did nothing both games offensively, just defended, which is fine to be honest for 'toss, but he doesnt get bases. Defends on 2 base....thats it xD Well this is also true, seems easier to expand frequently with the chargelot + HT army comp then colossus though aswell. Also feels like chargelot/ht has a more fragile timing window than colo builds do before they really get their momentum. Sure doesn't slow down Parting though.
I feel like the exact opposite. Colossus builds get dangerous once there are vikings out. You have to switch to templar pretty fast or end it with a two base colossus timing.
But what Parting does is different. He uses his templar in combination with chargelots, archons, sentries, a few stalkers and maybe an immortal or two. Which means that his army can take straight up fights no problem while expanding. His gateways + good upgrades allow him to respond to drop through warpins until he switches over to colossi at some point.
It's just all around super solid play without real weaknesses.
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On June 18 2012 20:16 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 20:15 teddyoojo wrote:On June 18 2012 20:04 Dodgin wrote:On June 18 2012 20:04 Talack wrote:On June 18 2012 20:03 Bwaaaa wrote:
Finally a top level terran goes a maruder heavy comp instead of massing marines and losing them to ht. Ganzi didint even need ghosts! Going heavy marauder is the easiest way to lose. Mass chargelots will DESTROY mass marauder so easily. mass chargelots is not going to stop 50 marauders with medivac support, they have a lot of health. maurauders dont kill zealots read my other post 50 marauders will most certainly kill 15 zealots and ht's
Not to mention melee doesn't scale very well versus ranged anyway
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On June 18 2012 20:14 FakeDeath wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 20:13 Toadvine wrote:
I still think getting up to 4 medivacs, and then playing excessively greedy while threatening a doomdrop is something Terrans should look into as a standard way of playing. The only thing Protoss can really do is take a third base, and he'll be significantly behind afterwards. 4 medivacs with full units? That is a huge gamble if toss are prepared for drops.
You only drop if he moves out. If it's a two base timing, and he leaves units behind, it's going to fail; if he doesn't, you just basetrade. If it's not a 2 base timing, you'll have your third and fourth up early, with Ghost tech and double engineering bay. I play Protoss and don't really know how I would punish something like this on a 2 base economy.
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On June 18 2012 20:17 HaXXspetten wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 20:16 Dodgin wrote:On June 18 2012 20:15 teddyoojo wrote:On June 18 2012 20:04 Dodgin wrote:On June 18 2012 20:04 Talack wrote:On June 18 2012 20:03 Bwaaaa wrote:
Finally a top level terran goes a maruder heavy comp instead of massing marines and losing them to ht. Ganzi didint even need ghosts! Going heavy marauder is the easiest way to lose. Mass chargelots will DESTROY mass marauder so easily. mass chargelots is not going to stop 50 marauders with medivac support, they have a lot of health. maurauders dont kill zealots read my other post 50 marauders will most certainly kill 15 zealots and ht's Not to mention melee doesn't scale very well versus ranged anyway
Actually speed zealots are hard as fuck.
Sad to see mc getting the hard way.
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Ganzi so greedy as always...
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United States97277 Posts
Supernova is going to do a ton of damage with this push.
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LOL Artosis Jinx strikes again instantly!
"wow, Ganzi is so amazing with this build! He's way ahead now!!"
*Ganzi dies to next push*
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On June 18 2012 20:21 Fubi wrote:
LOL Artosis Jinx strikes again instantly!
"wow, Ganzi is so amazing with this build! He's way ahead now!!"
*Ganzi dies to next push*
xD
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On June 18 2012 20:21 Fubi wrote:
LOL Artosis Jinx strikes again instantly!
"wow, Ganzi is so amazing with this build! He's way ahead now!!"
*Ganzi dies to next push*
Artosis curse extends to Terrans...
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4 is almost as many as 38
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Supernova's minerals are constantly at 600+
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Artosis like to predict it upside down.
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United States97277 Posts
On June 18 2012 20:23 NHY wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 20:21 Fubi wrote:
LOL Artosis Jinx strikes again instantly!
"wow, Ganzi is so amazing with this build! He's way ahead now!!"
*Ganzi dies to next push* Artosis curse extends to Terrans...
Artosis curse is imba
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Such bad games today, worst group in this season so far.
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Poll: Recommend Winners' Match Game 1?If you have time (9) 38% No (8) 33% Yes (7) 29% 24 total votes Your vote: Recommend Winners' Match Game 1? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): If you have time
(Vote): No
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So glad we have Dreamhack later, today's games pretty meh 
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United States97277 Posts
On June 18 2012 20:25 Laryleprakon wrote:So glad we have Dreamhack later, today's games pretty meh
I agree. This is probably the most disappointing day this season Hopefully Dreamhack delivers
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Germany4842 Posts
On June 18 2012 20:24 NightOfTheDead wrote:
Such bad games today, worst group in this season so far.
well you could always watch dreamhack and support ESPORTS
quake live 2nd semi final is on now: http://de.twitch.tv/dreamhackql
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On June 18 2012 20:24 NightOfTheDead wrote:
Such bad games today, worst group in this season so far.
Theres always dreamhack in half an hour :D
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On June 18 2012 20:26 ramon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 20:24 NightOfTheDead wrote:
Such bad games today, worst group in this season so far. well you could always watch dreamhack and support ESPORTS quake live 2nd semi final is on now: http://de.twitch.tv/dreamhackql
Quake Live always blows me away, think I'd rather watch that and then head over to the official DH stream, so cya 
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