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Vorgrim
Korea (North)1601 Posts
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bikefrog
Norway451 Posts
On June 18 2012 08:41 Skyline026 wrote: Pushing lesser players towards are final because they are swedish is not a win for esports. I dont believe this much of a coincidence. Guess again, because the Swedes have horrible roads ahead of them. | ||
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Rhaegar_tar
France847 Posts
On June 18 2012 08:43 polyphonyEX wrote: You mad that your precious stephano lose? No, it's just full of inconsistencies lmao | ||
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Lennient
497 Posts
On June 18 2012 08:44 rasnj wrote: What do you doubt? Do you think they intentionally arranged a shitty bracket and claimed that it was random? Why the hell would they do that. This bracket is so bad they I wouldn't have been surprised if they secretly rerolled it before making it public. Nani and stephano are likely to go out quickly, and they are likely the fan favorites. Why would DH do such a thing on purpose? if there are 2 koreans in the final like last time, that would hurt the viewership, Am i wrong ? last time, a bunch of EG was in the same group, what kind of luck was that | ||
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polyphonyEX
United States2539 Posts
On June 18 2012 08:43 Sp00ly wrote: Don't know what you are smoking with those two. Nerchio ZvZ is insane, Stephano ZvZ is pretty poor. Stephano PvZ is godly, and if he can beat Hero he can beat Sase. Sase has a very different playstyle from Hero, and he has fixed his PvZ since MLG. My bracket may not be 100% correct, but I think we'll see some upsets tomorrow. | ||
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GreyKnight
United States4720 Posts
On June 18 2012 08:45 Proseat wrote: If they actually draw the bracket randomly, I wish they'd not do it behind closed doors. This bracket smells fishy, too many "coincidences" for my taste. Liquid Koreans kill each other? Stephano versus the third Korean? Ret vs SaSe? Really looks like they "made" certain matchups "happen" to help a certain Swede on the way. eh, if they rigged it they could obviously rig a public draw too. | ||
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Domus
510 Posts
On June 18 2012 08:45 Proseat wrote: If they actually draw the bracket randomly, I wish they'd not do it behind closed doors. This bracket smells fishy, too many "coincidences" for my taste. Liquid Koreans kill each other? Stephano versus the third Korean? Ret vs SaSe? Really looks like they "made" certain matchups "happen" to help a certain Swede on the way. What, have some faith. Ret can take out Sase...And Stephano will kick Korean ass.. | ||
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JayJay_90
Germany1632 Posts
On June 18 2012 08:41 Lennient wrote: its funny that they draw this randomly, why wouldn't they just make A vs B, C vs D, etc... I highly doubt it, but whatever. Because a random draw prevents match fixing. Is that really that hard to figure out? -.- | ||
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SilentSC2
United States505 Posts
On June 18 2012 08:41 Dumboprime wrote: rooting for KeeN :D Keen and HerO Fighting!~ I hope Keen kicks Stephano's ass and gets to the semi-finals, meets up against HerO and one of them wins the whole thing. ^^ | ||
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Lizarb
Denmark307 Posts
On June 18 2012 08:33 Ammanas wrote: I still don't understand why aren't all the tournaments with group stages using GSL format groups, rather than round robin. In that format it can never happen that player only loses once and is eliminated... You want every player to play against each other. I like the GSL format, but this DH 3x group stages are more fair I think. GSL also reward the person that wins his first two matches by having one less match. | ||
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VisonKai
United States2203 Posts
On June 18 2012 08:41 Skyline026 wrote: Pushing lesser players towards are final because they are swedish is not a win for esports. I dont believe this much of a coincidence. What? Are you talking about Cytoplasm? Sase and Naniwa are definitely not lesser players, and they are the only other two swedes as far as I can see. | ||
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Sp00ly
United Kingdom1546 Posts
On June 18 2012 08:42 sansalvador wrote: Yeah, let's let the brackets of sports events be filled by the president of the event, no potential for conspiracy here. Randomness is random. Results are weird sometimes, but it's hardly ever unfair. I didn't say let the president do it. I meant do it like winner of A vs loser of B etc. | ||
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sansalvador
Austria308 Posts
On June 18 2012 08:44 00Visor wrote: Dreamhack will be Bo3 single elimination from now on (besides finals). TSL was Bo3 to start with, NASL in first season, GSL in open season. Tons of smaller events (Red Bull), Copenhagen have Bo3 stages. I know cases like Harstem happen. Of course its not fair, that Huk is out and Harstem in. But a total fair system would be if everyone plays everyone, thats just not possible. Groupstage is still more fair than single elimination (where Huk could meet Stephano any time). Tie Breakers still happen. What's unfair about that? Harstem made it through 3(!) group stages, even winning 3-0 in a group with lalush and thorzain. I don't know harstem and I love huk, but harstem did excellent looking at these numbers. gg wp harstem. | ||
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Chenz
Sweden1197 Posts
On June 18 2012 08:45 Proseat wrote: If they actually draw the bracket randomly, I wish they'd not do it behind closed doors. This bracket smells fishy, too many "coincidences" for my taste. Liquid Koreans kill each other? Stephano versus the third Korean? Ret vs SaSe? Really looks like they "made" certain matchups "happen" to help a certain Swede on the way. Had they wanted to get swedes to the finals, no way they would give Naniwa 2 zergs in a row. Naniwa wont get past them, and we all know it. | ||
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rasnj
United States1959 Posts
On June 18 2012 08:45 Vorgrim wrote: Pretty sure Stephano will be in the final, with a Swede. Certainly not a Korean winning this event. I think you got you negatives wrong. It should be: "Pretty sure Stephano won't be in the finals (or ro4), and certainly not against a swede. A Korean may very well win this event." | ||
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
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hifriend
China7935 Posts
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flowSthead
1065 Posts
On June 18 2012 08:40 TheBanana wrote: Because the GSL-group system is unfair. Example. Player A is God and beats everyone. Player B is horrible and loses to everyone. Player C and Player D are exactly the same. C and D goes 1-1 (2-1, 1-2) against each other. The guy drawing player B advances and never faces player A. That is not the way it would work: A wins vs B C wins vs D A wins vs C and A advances D wins vs B and B drops out C and D have a rematch that decides who goes on. Neither of them have an advantage. A still gets out, B still drops out. or A wins vs C D wins vs B A wins vs D and A advances C wins vs B and B drops out C and D never played and whoever wins between them goes on. A still gets out, B still drops out. In what kind of scenario would A being God and B being terrible give an unfair advantage? You have to win twice to get out, no matter what. You have to lose twice to drop out, no matter what. | ||
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TheSilverfox
Sweden1928 Posts
On June 18 2012 08:45 Proseat wrote: If they actually draw the bracket randomly, I wish they'd not do it behind closed doors. This bracket smells fishy, too many "coincidences" for my taste. Liquid Koreans kill each other? Stephano versus the third Korean? Ret vs SaSe? Really looks like they "made" certain matchups "happen" to help a certain Swede on the way. They do not draw it behind close doors, they are pretty open about it in the tournament area. | ||
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TheBanana
Norway2183 Posts
On June 18 2012 08:45 Proseat wrote: If they actually draw the bracket randomly, I wish they'd not do it behind closed doors. This bracket smells fishy, too many "coincidences" for my taste. Liquid Koreans kill each other? Stephano versus the third Korean? Ret vs SaSe? Really looks like they "made" certain matchups "happen" to help a certain Swede on the way. If they did for instance A vs B, C vs D, etc, Hero and Taeja would still meet. Sase and Naniwa on the same side of the brackets sucks. | ||
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