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PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
June 17 2012 09:44 GMT
#481
On June 17 2012 18:41 Stormiii wrote:
Dragon has played like 5000+ games as terran, im pretty sure that he knows that terran buildings can fly.


Pretty much this. Seriously guys. You're basically calling Dragon a complete retard just because he can't handle pressure well during a game. He's not that dumb.
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Snusmumriken
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden1717 Posts
June 17 2012 09:44 GMT
#482
On June 17 2012 18:42 Serimek wrote:
I kinda enjoy that game


French people have no taste! Nah I also enjoyed it :D

Give apollo a break he, like the suicidal person, just wanted the pain to END.
Amove for Aiur
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
June 17 2012 09:44 GMT
#483
On June 17 2012 18:41 HaXXspetten wrote:
I have a hard time believing a high level Terran would be unable to figure out how to float away buildings on his own, seems very unlikely that Apollo is to blame imo.

Judging by Dragon's actions that game I actually find it highly likely that he didn't realize until Apollo said that.
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Letall
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden384 Posts
June 17 2012 09:44 GMT
#484
On June 17 2012 18:41 mememolly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 18:40 PoP wrote:
On June 17 2012 18:38 mememolly wrote:
On June 17 2012 18:37 PoP wrote:
On June 17 2012 18:35 Waxangel wrote:
On June 17 2012 18:34 PoP wrote:
I don't think the apollo thing is that big a deal. Dragon is not retarded, he probably realized Cyto has no AA by now. Seriously.


have you been watching the same game as the rest of us?


Sloppy under pressure != retarded


floating 400 gas at 3 minutes under no pressure?


That's what I'm saying. He was extremely sloppy all game long. But he wouldn't have gg'd before trying to float a building, apollo sending that message or not.


you don't know that


No one knows that expect Dragon thats why its maybe a good idea for apollo to not type shit out in chat for no reason. Is Apollo an admin? no? Im pretty sure he is just a caster.
Dont tase me bro
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
June 17 2012 09:44 GMT
#485
On June 17 2012 18:42 PoP wrote:
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On June 17 2012 18:39 Waxangel wrote:
I'm glad you can read his mind

the point is caster should never even POSSIBLY affect the game like that


I can't read his mind, you can't either. No way to know what he would've done. You think he didn't realize Cyto had no AA after all this time, I think he did.

And yeah Apollo should've not done this, definitely not. Just think it didn't matter at all here.


We know what he ALMOST did. He almost lost all of his buildings. Do you realize how close it was? If those infestors had been 1 screen closer, dragon might have lost. It isn't like he made an easy escape.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
June 17 2012 09:45 GMT
#486
On June 17 2012 18:43 Deathmanbob wrote:
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On June 17 2012 18:41 Type|NarutO wrote:
On June 17 2012 18:39 Deathmanbob wrote:
On June 17 2012 18:38 Daray wrote:
Spectators should NEVER say anything that might impact the results of a game, even if the chances are like .0001%


terran should NEVER be allowed to force a draw like that. I get the whole race mechanic i just really hate when they win draw out a game they should lose because of it


In theory you could have 8 sentries and 1 pylon at a ramp and Terran with 200/200 bio but no mining/minerals could never beat you because of forcefields. Would that be imbalanced as well? Its not like Cyto did play a draw here because Terran buildings can fly, but because he failed to keep 3(?) hatcheries alive, with a superior army.... and mapcontrol.


thats a valid point, even though i dont think it could EVER happen that way. What i dont like is the fact that one player CANT lose, no matter what, the WORST he could do was draw and i just dont think thats a fun thing to be in a tournament


The worst thing that he could have done was lose. He had an inferior army, no map control and Cyto had hatcheries + drones.. he was just too damn busy to sit in the middle and no defend them, leading to zero income, leading to a draw in the end.
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Fueled
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1610 Posts
June 17 2012 09:45 GMT
#487
On June 17 2012 18:41 Stormiii wrote:
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On June 17 2012 18:39 Waxangel wrote:
On June 17 2012 18:38 PoP wrote:
On June 17 2012 18:36 elbooN wrote:
On June 17 2012 18:36 [17]Purple wrote:
On June 17 2012 18:35 mememolly wrote:
On June 17 2012 18:34 elbooN wrote:
dragon realized it was a draw after apollo said that... sigh


yeah, I don't think he realised


I think Dragon could tell that there were no AA Air units after his buildings.


He literally did not float his buildings anywhere until apollo said it.


No he did it when he had no chance to win anymore.


I'm glad you can read his mind

the point is caster should never even POSSIBLY affect the game like that

Dragon has played like 5000+ games as terran, im pretty sure that he knows that terran buildings can fly.

But he didn't know the Zerg had no Muta/Corrupters.
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Zythus
Profile Joined December 2011
Poland184 Posts
June 17 2012 09:45 GMT
#488
But he couldnt make any units anymore. They should just make him land all of his buildings, cause zerg can't lift, and it would be same chances for both of them. That was stupid, that was cyto's game.
Roxor9999
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands771 Posts
June 17 2012 09:45 GMT
#489
Even though I think dragon is an idiot, I don't think apollo influenced the outcome of that game, but it still was very very stupid because it easily could have.
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
June 17 2012 09:46 GMT
#490
Apollo was just thinking of us by trying to bring that game to its inevitable end sooner rather than later. Dragon refused the draw when he still had his orbital, still had the minimal chance. He lost that and said ok corner time!
Bergys
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden337 Posts
June 17 2012 09:46 GMT
#491
On June 17 2012 18:41 Type|NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 18:39 Deathmanbob wrote:
On June 17 2012 18:38 Daray wrote:
Spectators should NEVER say anything that might impact the results of a game, even if the chances are like .0001%


terran should NEVER be allowed to force a draw like that. I get the whole race mechanic i just really hate when they win draw out a game they should lose because of it


In theory you could have 8 sentries and 1 pylon at a ramp and Terran with 200/200 bio but no mining/minerals could never beat you because of forcefields. Would that be imbalanced as well? Its not like Cyto did play a draw here because Terran buildings can fly, but because he failed to keep 3(?) hatcheries alive, with a superior army.... and mapcontrol.


I do think it would be bad mannered to keep force-fielding your ramp if your opponent had a 200/200 army. It's different though imo.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33518 Posts
June 17 2012 09:46 GMT
#492
Meanwhile, TaeJa vs devz starts up on imba.tv ^^
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Serimek
Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
June 17 2012 09:46 GMT
#493
On June 17 2012 18:41 Type|NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 18:39 Deathmanbob wrote:
On June 17 2012 18:38 Daray wrote:
Spectators should NEVER say anything that might impact the results of a game, even if the chances are like .0001%


terran should NEVER be allowed to force a draw like that. I get the whole race mechanic i just really hate when they win draw out a game they should lose because of it


In theory you could have 8 sentries and 1 pylon at a ramp and Terran with 200/200 bio but no mining/minerals could never beat you because of forcefields. Would that be imbalanced as well? Its not like Cyto did play a draw here because Terran buildings can fly, but because he failed to keep 3(?) hatcheries alive, with a superior army.... and mapcontrol.


I have to agree that Cyto is responsible for not winning despite all Dragon's mistakes. No one else to blame, and certainly not Apollo even though he shouldn't ask for a draw.
SC2 is the best game to watch and was the best to play before I grew old and slow...
BadBinky
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Finland649 Posts
June 17 2012 09:46 GMT
#494
On June 17 2012 18:44 PoP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 18:41 Stormiii wrote:
Dragon has played like 5000+ games as terran, im pretty sure that he knows that terran buildings can fly.


Pretty much this. Seriously guys. You're basically calling Dragon a complete retard just because he can't handle pressure well during a game. He's not that dumb.

I've seen Dragon do some retarded shit. I've seen better players throw away games in even more stupid manner. Stop trolling.
It's more important to be tough than to have any fun.
[17]Purple
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom3489 Posts
June 17 2012 09:46 GMT
#495
On June 17 2012 18:45 Fueled wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 18:41 Stormiii wrote:
On June 17 2012 18:39 Waxangel wrote:
On June 17 2012 18:38 PoP wrote:
On June 17 2012 18:36 elbooN wrote:
On June 17 2012 18:36 [17]Purple wrote:
On June 17 2012 18:35 mememolly wrote:
On June 17 2012 18:34 elbooN wrote:
dragon realized it was a draw after apollo said that... sigh


yeah, I don't think he realised


I think Dragon could tell that there were no AA Air units after his buildings.


He literally did not float his buildings anywhere until apollo said it.


No he did it when he had no chance to win anymore.


I'm glad you can read his mind

the point is caster should never even POSSIBLY affect the game like that

Dragon has played like 5000+ games as terran, im pretty sure that he knows that terran buildings can fly.

But he didn't know the Zerg had no Muta/Corrupters.


Does it really matter? He could have at least tried to float like every intelligent Terran, he still could have floated them anyways then have them shot down by the non-existent Muta/Corrupter.
"Turn Disadvantages into Disadvantages" and "Collect Telephones". The secrets of Chinese success.
CygnusAres
Profile Joined August 2011
Singapore893 Posts
June 17 2012 09:46 GMT
#496
Taeja vs Devs is on imbalanced.tv, up 1-0 now.
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TheBanana
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway2183 Posts
June 17 2012 09:46 GMT
#497
On June 17 2012 18:41 Woizit wrote:
To all those believing that Apollo had no influence on that game, realise that Dragon was actually floating all his buildings to the MIDDLE and only turned around after Apollo mentioned the draw.


He could still use the buildings untill his CC died.
If you're not getting better faster than everybody else, you're getting worse.
zezamer
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland5701 Posts
June 17 2012 09:46 GMT
#498
It's the time. 11/11
nweb
Profile Joined June 2011
198 Posts
June 17 2012 09:46 GMT
#499
You're dumb if you think Apollo ruined the game. Dragon kept the buildings landed up until he lost his orbital, hoping to get any units out. After the orbital died, he instantly floated to the corner.
DrakeFZX3
Profile Joined October 2010
United States925 Posts
June 17 2012 09:46 GMT
#500
The amount of ppl ragging on Apollo is absurd. Let it go and move on.
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