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Bergys
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden337 Posts
June 17 2012 09:42 GMT
#461
On June 17 2012 18:39 Deathmanbob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 18:38 Daray wrote:
Spectators should NEVER say anything that might impact the results of a game, even if the chances are like .0001%


terran should NEVER be allowed to force a draw like that. I get the whole race mechanic i just really hate when they win draw out a game they should lose because of it


Yeah, I agree. It's really stupid. If one player has only flying buildings it should be a countdown until that player loses, not to a draw. The only reason you'd hide you're buildings in a corner and wait for the timer is if you have no possible way to win. Cytoplasm did play that pretty badly though. F.ex. if he just left a overlord following the medivac with 8 marines in the top right and an infestor aswell he could've had his hive still.
polyphonyEX
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2539 Posts
June 17 2012 09:42 GMT
#462
On June 17 2012 18:41 PredY wrote:
it was wrong from apollo to ask for a draw

Don't start a witch hunt now... seriously.
mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-17 09:43:26
June 17 2012 09:42 GMT
#463
On June 17 2012 18:41 HaXXspetten wrote:
I have a hard time believing a high level Terran would be unable to figure out how to float away buildings on his own, seems very unlikely that Apollo is to blame imo.


you gotta remember dragon was playing here
Serimek
Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
June 17 2012 09:42 GMT
#464
I kinda enjoy that game
SC2 is the best game to watch and was the best to play before I grew old and slow...
Psyclon
Profile Joined July 2010
Bulgaria2443 Posts
June 17 2012 09:43 GMT
#465
I agree that Apollo should not have said that regardless of the circumstances, but i refuse to accept that Dragon was not aware of the situation.
Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds!
PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
June 17 2012 09:43 GMT
#466
On June 17 2012 18:40 8mmspikes wrote:
Anyone know the source of the music Dreamhacks been using for breaks? Would love to add it on Spotify D:

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLA987A856978DAB8F&feature=plcp
Stephano//HerO//TaeJa//Squirtle//Bomber
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
June 17 2012 09:43 GMT
#467
On June 17 2012 18:41 Type|NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 18:39 Deathmanbob wrote:
On June 17 2012 18:38 Daray wrote:
Spectators should NEVER say anything that might impact the results of a game, even if the chances are like .0001%


terran should NEVER be allowed to force a draw like that. I get the whole race mechanic i just really hate when they win draw out a game they should lose because of it


In theory you could have 8 sentries and 1 pylon at a ramp and Terran with 200/200 bio but no mining/minerals could never beat you because of forcefields. Would that be imbalanced as well? Its not like Cyto did play a draw here because Terran buildings can fly, but because he failed to keep 3(?) hatcheries alive, with a superior army.... and mapcontrol.


I would pay to see that happen with the forcefields.
Daray
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
6006 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-17 09:43:51
June 17 2012 09:43 GMT
#468
On June 17 2012 18:40 JJH777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 18:39 sleepingdog wrote:
On June 17 2012 18:38 PoP wrote:
On June 17 2012 18:36 elbooN wrote:
On June 17 2012 18:36 [17]Purple wrote:
On June 17 2012 18:35 mememolly wrote:
On June 17 2012 18:34 elbooN wrote:
dragon realized it was a draw after apollo said that... sigh


yeah, I don't think he realised


I think Dragon could tell that there were no AA Air units after his buildings.


He literally did not float his buildings anywhere until apollo said it.


No he did it when he had no chance to win anymore.


Dragon didn't know how many ressources Cyto had - there was still the very slight possibility that Cyto had banked 250 for a hatch and didn't want to spend it until all of Dragon's production was gone.
I realize that's like 0,00001% possible, but still.

Well, first world problem here, I think we will be able to get over it.


If that was the case then Cyto would have just said no to the draw.... You guys are being ridiculous. There is no way Dragon didn't realize he could force a draw. 0% chance.


Well why the fuck did he not just fly _a_ building to the edge of the map earlier and not wait until the last second? Why risk it at all? 0% chance cmon man
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
June 17 2012 09:43 GMT
#469
Buildings should lose X health per second after > 1min of floating.
Deathmanbob
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2356 Posts
June 17 2012 09:43 GMT
#470
On June 17 2012 18:41 Type|NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 18:39 Deathmanbob wrote:
On June 17 2012 18:38 Daray wrote:
Spectators should NEVER say anything that might impact the results of a game, even if the chances are like .0001%


terran should NEVER be allowed to force a draw like that. I get the whole race mechanic i just really hate when they win draw out a game they should lose because of it


In theory you could have 8 sentries and 1 pylon at a ramp and Terran with 200/200 bio but no mining/minerals could never beat you because of forcefields. Would that be imbalanced as well? Its not like Cyto did play a draw here because Terran buildings can fly, but because he failed to keep 3(?) hatcheries alive, with a superior army.... and mapcontrol.


thats a valid point, even though i dont think it could EVER happen that way. What i dont like is the fact that one player CANT lose, no matter what, the WORST he could do was draw and i just dont think thats a fun thing to be in a tournament
No Artosis, you are robin
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
June 17 2012 09:43 GMT
#471
Incontrol and Khaldor made that last game really good. Those kinds of games are perfect for Incontrol. I'm watching way more DH than I normally would because of these dudes.
♦ My Life for BESTie ♦ 류세라 = 배 ♦
BadBinky
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Finland649 Posts
June 17 2012 09:43 GMT
#472
Can't report pop for trolling :C
It's more important to be tough than to have any fun.
Jojo131
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil1631 Posts
June 17 2012 09:43 GMT
#473
On June 17 2012 18:40 SnipedSoul wrote:
Apollo the target of the next witch hunt. I'm calling it now.

Knowing this community, I'd put money on it.

I thought the game was alright, I think Dragon could have done well to kill some of the drones with his banshee to prevent more extractors from coming up.
niekoz
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands350 Posts
June 17 2012 09:43 GMT
#474
On June 17 2012 18:41 Woizit wrote:
To all those believing that Apollo had no influence on that game, realise that Dragon was actually floating all his buildings to the MIDDLE and only turned around after Apollo mentioned the draw.


Well his orbital was still alive so he could build units, after it was killed (at the same time as the draw was called) he flew his buildings away
SnipedSoul
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2158 Posts
June 17 2012 09:43 GMT
#475
On June 17 2012 18:41 polyphonyEX wrote:
An example of why floating buildings should be given a time-out or something. Terrans should not get that advantage because no other race is able to force draws like that.


1 pylon in a main base with a normal ramp with 8+ sentries inside. If the other player doesn't have drops or massive units then the toss can force a draw.
Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
June 17 2012 09:43 GMT
#476
On June 17 2012 18:42 polyphonyEX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 18:41 PredY wrote:
it was wrong from apollo to ask for a draw

Don't start a witch hunt now... seriously.

There's already "Fuck Apollo" comments on Reddit -_-
Innovation | Flash | Mvp | Byun | TY
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
June 17 2012 09:43 GMT
#477
email his sponsor?
just get over it ~
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
June 17 2012 09:43 GMT
#478
On June 17 2012 18:42 polyphonyEX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 18:41 PredY wrote:
it was wrong from apollo to ask for a draw

Don't start a witch hunt now... seriously.

no witchhunt. It was a clear mistake from a caster to ask the players for a draw.
keep it deep! @zulison
jesuschristdragon
Profile Joined June 2012
Belize2 Posts
June 17 2012 09:44 GMT
#479
On June 17 2012 18:39 Deathmanbob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 18:38 Daray wrote:
Spectators should NEVER say anything that might impact the results of a game, even if the chances are like .0001%


terran should NEVER be allowed to force a draw like that. I get the whole race mechanic i just really hate when they win draw out a game they should lose because of it

Cytoplasm played like shit too, he should've built a single corruptor while he could, or a hatchery while he could, he did neither , built 2 ultras instead, he didn't deserve to win, both played like they had smoked enough marijuana to go into a comatose state.
omfg..
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
June 17 2012 09:44 GMT
#480
On June 17 2012 18:43 Hall0wed wrote:
Incontrol and Khaldor made that last game really good. Those kinds of games are perfect for Incontrol. I'm watching way more DH than I normally would because of these dudes.


I agree - best line so far:

Incontrol: "you are really intelligent"
Khaldor: "I'm German"
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
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