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hXc_
Profile Joined May 2012
179 Posts
June 17 2012 09:41 GMT
#441
Watching this game on the second channel with iNcontroL and Khaldor casting was the funniest game (and commentary ) I have ever watched
Woizit
Profile Joined June 2011
801 Posts
June 17 2012 09:41 GMT
#442
To all those believing that Apollo had no influence on that game, realise that Dragon was actually floating all his buildings to the MIDDLE and only turned around after Apollo mentioned the draw.
mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
June 17 2012 09:41 GMT
#443
On June 17 2012 18:40 PoP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 18:38 mememolly wrote:
On June 17 2012 18:37 PoP wrote:
On June 17 2012 18:35 Waxangel wrote:
On June 17 2012 18:34 PoP wrote:
I don't think the apollo thing is that big a deal. Dragon is not retarded, he probably realized Cyto has no AA by now. Seriously.


have you been watching the same game as the rest of us?


Sloppy under pressure != retarded


floating 400 gas at 3 minutes under no pressure?


That's what I'm saying. He was extremely sloppy all game long. But he wouldn't have gg'd before trying to float a building, apollo sending that message or not.


you don't know that
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
June 17 2012 09:41 GMT
#444
On June 17 2012 18:40 Mowr wrote:
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On June 17 2012 18:37 Fusilero wrote:
On June 17 2012 18:37 mycro wrote:
On June 17 2012 18:36 Type|NarutO wrote:
On June 17 2012 18:35 mycro wrote:
haha first draw ever?


No^^


Really there has been another tourney game which ended in draw? o:

Tassadar vs choya in one of FXO KOTH and boxer vs naniwa in the first arena of legends were draws.

HOW can you guys remember those things?

You do not forget a PvP which was cannon rush vs proxy 2gate lol.
Glorious SEA doto
Mallidon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Scotland557 Posts
June 17 2012 09:41 GMT
#445
On June 17 2012 18:39 mage3 wrote:
Oh my god, I didn't realize that Apollo might have influenced the game that way untill I came here. Damn it, I think you guys are right and now I'm enraged.
I had that huge smile on my face coming to the thread, but you've open my eyes.


Yeah it was a pretty bad move tbh. I hope Incontrol gives Apollo a bit of a slap for that one xD
Bleh.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
June 17 2012 09:41 GMT
#446
I have a hard time believing a high level Terran would be unable to figure out how to float away buildings on his own, seems very unlikely that Apollo is to blame imo.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
June 17 2012 09:41 GMT
#447
On June 17 2012 18:39 Deathmanbob wrote:
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On June 17 2012 18:38 Daray wrote:
Spectators should NEVER say anything that might impact the results of a game, even if the chances are like .0001%


terran should NEVER be allowed to force a draw like that. I get the whole race mechanic i just really hate when they win draw out a game they should lose because of it


In theory you could have 8 sentries and 1 pylon at a ramp and Terran with 200/200 bio but no mining/minerals could never beat you because of forcefields. Would that be imbalanced as well? Its not like Cyto did play a draw here because Terran buildings can fly, but because he failed to keep 3(?) hatcheries alive, with a superior army.... and mapcontrol.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
SC2ShoWTimE
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany722 Posts
June 17 2012 09:41 GMT
#448
are there no other games to cast or why do both main streams cast the same one? (not complaining, just wondering)
Progamer
Deathmanbob
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2356 Posts
June 17 2012 09:41 GMT
#449
On June 17 2012 18:40 Waxangel wrote:
Let's just give both of them a loss and proceed with the group stage as normal



i really think only dragon should get the loss, i know it seems unfair i just really get mad at that race mechanic i really wish tournys would make a rule against it
No Artosis, you are robin
RyF
Profile Joined October 2011
Austria508 Posts
June 17 2012 09:41 GMT
#450
On June 17 2012 18:38 G4rrett wrote:
I feel Apollo saying the draw made Dragon realise he could lift off.. otherwise Cyto could of just killed all the buildings with his BL's in the main. Kind of woke the players up considering they seemed to have been playing bad.

This is why most rules are no-one can speak until GG's are called.


well players can speak. but observers should never speak about the game in any case. apollo did. and like u said it made dragon lift. so impatient apollo...
PredY
Profile Joined September 2009
Czech Republic1731 Posts
June 17 2012 09:41 GMT
#451
it was wrong from apollo to ask for a draw
http://www.twitch.tv/czelpredy
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
June 17 2012 09:41 GMT
#452
uh apollo disappointed me....
TheSilverfox
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden1928 Posts
June 17 2012 09:41 GMT
#453
On June 17 2012 18:39 Waxangel wrote:
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On June 17 2012 18:38 PoP wrote:
On June 17 2012 18:36 elbooN wrote:
On June 17 2012 18:36 [17]Purple wrote:
On June 17 2012 18:35 mememolly wrote:
On June 17 2012 18:34 elbooN wrote:
dragon realized it was a draw after apollo said that... sigh


yeah, I don't think he realised


I think Dragon could tell that there were no AA Air units after his buildings.


He literally did not float his buildings anywhere until apollo said it.


No he did it when he had no chance to win anymore.


I'm glad you can read his mind

the point is caster should never even POSSIBLY affect the game like that


Even so it should not be a caster at all typing. In these situations there should be a Referee/Admin that makes these kind of judgements, and not the casters.
Also known as Joinsimon on Twitter/Reddit
polyphonyEX
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2539 Posts
June 17 2012 09:41 GMT
#454
An example of why floating buildings should be given a time-out or something. Terrans should not get that advantage because no other race is able to force draws like that.
Stormiii
Profile Joined May 2012
Finland239 Posts
June 17 2012 09:41 GMT
#455
On June 17 2012 18:39 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 18:38 PoP wrote:
On June 17 2012 18:36 elbooN wrote:
On June 17 2012 18:36 [17]Purple wrote:
On June 17 2012 18:35 mememolly wrote:
On June 17 2012 18:34 elbooN wrote:
dragon realized it was a draw after apollo said that... sigh


yeah, I don't think he realised


I think Dragon could tell that there were no AA Air units after his buildings.


He literally did not float his buildings anywhere until apollo said it.


No he did it when he had no chance to win anymore.


I'm glad you can read his mind

the point is caster should never even POSSIBLY affect the game like that

Dragon has played like 5000+ games as terran, im pretty sure that he knows that terran buildings can fly.
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4732 Posts
June 17 2012 09:41 GMT
#456
Still in group stage2 and then something like this happens. This is gonna be a loooooooong day.

I really don't like the Dreamhack timetable though
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
June 17 2012 09:41 GMT
#457
On June 17 2012 18:40 SafeAsCheese wrote:
I could understand a draw in a case where player X does not have AA and player Y has flying buildings and units, but the SINGLE reason the zerg lost was because of the map. It had an abyss where no ground to air units that zerg have can reach.

He got punished for having ground anti-air instead of air anti-air, it's retarded.

The map should never be the SOLE reason a player doesn't lose in a professional game.


At least there are no islands, in which case the terran auto-wins....
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
FinBenton
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland870 Posts
June 17 2012 09:42 GMT
#458
On June 17 2012 18:37 grs wrote:
From Apollo's face you can pretty much read, he knows he should not have done that. Happened, lets get over it.

Dragon was floating his cc into a corner before apollo said that...
Snusmumriken
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden1717 Posts
June 17 2012 09:42 GMT
#459
the starcraft inquisition will be knocking on apollos door tonight
Amove for Aiur
PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
June 17 2012 09:42 GMT
#460
On June 17 2012 18:39 Waxangel wrote:
I'm glad you can read his mind

the point is caster should never even POSSIBLY affect the game like that


I can't read his mind, you can't either. No way to know what he would've done. You think he didn't realize Cyto had no AA after all this time, I think he did.

And yeah Apollo should've not done this, definitely not. Just think it didn't matter at all here.
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