On May 22 2012 16:46 a9arnn wrote: So lame, KT's (essentially) cheating the system against ACE, it seems kinda unfair to buy these guys up . ACE better take the next 2 games to smash these guys.
How is it cheating the system? Both teams play by the same rules, KT just seems to have a better stratagy with who they send out what days and matches.
From a winning standpoint, I agree. But when your core audience is mainly hold-overs BW viewers, it's kind of lame. I think viewers would prefer watching a mediocre SC2 game and a good BW game from Stats, than an good SC2 game but horrible BW game from Lizzy/Acacia.
On May 22 2012 16:46 roymarthyup wrote: id say lizzies build in that game was akin to a 4pool. it would be strong against cc first but lose to pretty much everything else but be almost a garuntee win against CC first
that says alot about lizzies skill it must be horrible because if a zerg uses a 4pool because he knows he sucks at everything else, it must mean the zerg sucks
im just correcting people who are commenting about "oh lizzy lost those goons there, etc etc, man he sucks" as giving reasons he sucks but in reality you should be saying "lizzy did some horrible all-in build almost similar to a 4pool in function. it means he knows he cannot play a real game competitively and thus he sucks"
How is it akin to 4 pool vs CC first? He could have easily stopped unit production and expanded. Instead he chose to engage a bunker with 2 siege tanks behind, no way he would have broken that. I guess he was just saving his energy for the ace match or something. Still pretty horrible decision making.
On May 22 2012 16:48 VENDIZ wrote: Hmm, I have yet to see a decent terran play in PL.. I get that it's a new game for them, but the protoss & zerg players have shown themselves from a lot better side than the terrans.
Skyhigh looked pretty competent in the TvT he played.
Yeah Skyhigh looked good too, at least in TvT.
He crushed Sea pretty badly.
Skyhigh looked worse than reality, sea played really really bad.
On May 22 2012 16:46 PhoenixDark wrote: This is like first GSL quality play, and even that would be generous. Clearly they need some time to learn the game
You obviously did not see the Carriers during the first day
I didn't, what happened? I'd imagine the opponent must have done something wrong to lose to Carriers though
zerg didn't crush the protoss during toss ground army absence after scouting two port voidray / carrier follow up and let the toss go up to 3 bases with carriers.
On May 22 2012 16:46 a9arnn wrote: So lame, KT's (essentially) cheating the system against ACE, it seems kinda unfair to buy these guys up . ACE better take the next 2 games to smash these guys.
How is it cheating the system? Both teams play by the same rules, KT just seems to have a better stratagy with who they send out what days and matches.
It's not actually cheating (hence the "essentially"), they're just using people that have probably played little to no BW ever, it just seems pretty cheap to me :/
On May 22 2012 16:46 a9arnn wrote: So lame, KT's (essentially) cheating the system against ACE, it seems kinda unfair to buy these guys up . ACE better take the next 2 games to smash these guys.
How is it cheating the system? Both teams play by the same rules, KT just seems to have a better stratagy with who they send out what days and matches.
From a winning standpoint, I agree. But when your core audience is mainly hold-overs BW viewers, it's kind of lame. I think viewers would prefer watching a mediocre SC2 game and a good BW game from Stats, than an good SC2 game but horrible BW game from Lizzy/Acacia.
Blame KeSPA for making the ace match sc2 instead of BW...
On May 22 2012 16:46 a9arnn wrote: So lame, KT's (essentially) cheating the system against ACE, it seems kinda unfair to buy these guys up . ACE better take the next 2 games to smash these guys.
How is it cheating the system? Both teams play by the same rules, KT just seems to have a better stratagy with who they send out what days and matches.
I think he means that KT can rely on fresh blood that's playing SC2 full time, Ace can't do that
On May 22 2012 16:46 a9arnn wrote: So lame, KT's (essentially) cheating the system against ACE, it seems kinda unfair to buy these guys up . ACE better take the next 2 games to smash these guys.
How is it cheating the system? Both teams play by the same rules, KT just seems to have a better stratagy with who they send out what days and matches.
From a winning standpoint, I agree. But when your core audience is mainly hold-overs BW viewers, it's kind of lame. I think viewers would prefer watching a mediocre SC2 game and a good BW game from Stats, than an good SC2 game but horrible BW game from Lizzy/Acacia.
Oh, yeah. From a BW viewers standpoint I can see that. Obviously some of the games now are going to be complete shit so they can get those guys back to the SC2 side of things.
On May 22 2012 16:46 a9arnn wrote: So lame, KT's (essentially) cheating the system against ACE, it seems kinda unfair to buy these guys up . ACE better take the next 2 games to smash these guys.
How is it cheating the system? Both teams play by the same rules, KT just seems to have a better stratagy with who they send out what days and matches.
From a winning standpoint, I agree. But when your core audience is mainly hold-overs BW viewers, it's kind of lame. I think viewers would prefer watching a mediocre SC2 game and a good BW game from Stats, than an good SC2 game but horrible BW game from Lizzy/Acacia.
Blame KeSPA for making the ace match sc2 instead of BW...
They should have rotated the ACE match just like the players .
On May 22 2012 16:48 VENDIZ wrote: Hmm, I have yet to see a decent terran play in PL.. I get that it's a new game for them, but the protoss & zerg players have shown themselves from a lot better side than the terrans.
Reality is legit.
Yeah Reality was the only one who looked anywhere near decent.
Flash looked good imo, except he did let Effort massing drones unharrassed. But his play by itself looked fine to me.
On May 22 2012 16:46 roymarthyup wrote: id say lizzies build in that game was akin to a 4pool. it would be strong against cc first but lose to pretty much everything else but be almost a garuntee win against CC first
that says alot about lizzies skill it must be horrible because if a zerg uses a 4pool because he knows he sucks at everything else, it must mean the zerg sucks
im just correcting people who are commenting about "oh lizzy lost those goons there, etc etc, man he sucks" as giving reasons he sucks but in reality you should be saying "lizzy did some horrible all-in build almost similar to a 4pool in function. it means he knows he cannot play a real game competitively and thus he sucks"
How is it akin to 4 pool vs CC first? He could have easily stopped unit production and expanded. Instead he chose to engage a bunker with 2 siege tanks behind, no way he would have broken that. I guess he was just saving his energy for the ace match or something. Still pretty horrible decision making.
normally the zerg just GG's if the 4pool doesnt grant him a BO win
lizzy decided he could either attack with a 100% chance of failing and maybe a miracle would happen
or lizzy could pull back and play at a 100% extreme disadvantage in the macro game. same as a 4pool pulling back and trying to play normal after failing to win with the initial attack
EPT
. ACE better take the next 2 games to smash these guys. 
