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id say lizzies build in that game was akin to a 4pool. it would be strong against cc first but lose to pretty much everything else but be almost a garuntee win against CC first
that says alot about lizzies skill it must be horrible because if a zerg uses a 4pool because he knows he sucks at everything else, it must mean the zerg sucks
im just correcting people who are commenting about "oh lizzy lost those goons there, etc etc, man he sucks" as giving reasons he sucks but in reality you should be saying "lizzy did some horrible all-in build almost similar to a 4pool in function. it means he knows he cannot play a real game competitively and thus he sucks"
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Sorry kinda offtopic, but when is SKT's next proleague match? I really wanna see Bisu and Fantasy play SC2.
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On May 22 2012 16:44 alffla wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2012 16:44 las91 wrote: Oh man. Busted. Acacia is pretty good man. Also what's with every PL Zerg using infested terrans at any point in time? when are infested terrans supposed to use? (new to sc2 here.)
I mean, he was so far ahead at that point it didn't matter, but it's better to have the energy for fungals especially with Ultralisks. Infested Terrans are usually used in sneak attacks with burrowed infestors but I don't see them all that often in ZvT...
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This is like first GSL quality play, and even that would be generous. Clearly they need some time to learn the game
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On May 22 2012 16:44 alffla wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2012 16:44 las91 wrote: Oh man. Busted. Acacia is pretty good man. Also what's with every PL Zerg using infested terrans at any point in time? when are infested terrans supposed to use? (new to sc2 here.)
Commonly around a very set-in Terran Mech army, as a way to buff and take the damage of the initial siege tank volleys so the rest of the army can move in. With a mass of Infestors they're also very good to take out a base, you can burrow with 4-5 and launch a volley and take out a base if the enemy doesn't have units nearby.
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On May 22 2012 16:44 alffla wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2012 16:44 las91 wrote: Oh man. Busted. Acacia is pretty good man. Also what's with every PL Zerg using infested terrans at any point in time? when are infested terrans supposed to use? (new to sc2 here.) They're useful for harassment and as anti-air utility (when you don't have any other option). Ideally you want to be using your energy on fungals rather than infested terrans, but I guess there was just too little units to fungal.
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On May 22 2012 16:45 Veldril wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2012 16:44 Dodgin wrote: this isn't even fair lol
KT using their sc2 bonjwas vs ace who can't get any sc2 talent because none of them are doing military service I guess NaDa, Ganzi will join ACE soon (maybe next year)?
July too, oh and it would be beyond amazing to see them back in PL.
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So lame, KT's (essentially) cheating the system against ACE, it seems kinda unfair to buy these guys up . ACE better take the next 2 games to smash these guys.
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On May 22 2012 16:44 alffla wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2012 16:44 las91 wrote: Oh man. Busted. Acacia is pretty good man. Also what's with every PL Zerg using infested terrans at any point in time? when are infested terrans supposed to use? (new to sc2 here.) They're great for busting walls, throwing a bunch and sniping a base, terrible in straight up fights (especially with any AoE). Good for throwing at tank lines too. There's been a few situations with BW players using them where they should be using fungal (which is far superior in most engagements)
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What I don't get is that Lizzy says he was a BW progamer, and still he can't execute a simple build order. O_o
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On May 22 2012 16:44 alffla wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2012 16:44 las91 wrote: Oh man. Busted. Acacia is pretty good man. Also what's with every PL Zerg using infested terrans at any point in time? when are infested terrans supposed to use? (new to sc2 here.)
If you have 75+ energy it's better to use fungal growth instead of 3 infested terrans (in most cases at least) most of these BW players have just been spamming ITs and not fungaling that much, I'm not sure why
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On May 22 2012 16:46 PhoenixDark wrote: This is like first GSL quality play, and even that would be generous. Clearly they need some time to learn the game You obviously did not see the Carriers during the first day
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We are back to terrans not knowing how to split, expect 20% win ratio vs zerg.
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The Zerg is no DRG, but he got the job done. Some nice macro play from the Zerg right there.
It seems that a lot of Proleague players are opting for macro games, while GSL players cheese quite a bit more.
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On May 22 2012 16:46 Kergy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2012 16:45 Veldril wrote:On May 22 2012 16:44 Dodgin wrote: this isn't even fair lol
KT using their sc2 bonjwas vs ace who can't get any sc2 talent because none of them are doing military service I guess NaDa, Ganzi will join ACE soon (maybe next year)? July too, oh and it would be beyond amazing to see them back in PL.
Oh man. JulyZerg back in Proleague...... YESSSSSSSSSSSS
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On May 22 2012 16:46 roymarthyup wrote: id say lizzies build in that game was akin to a 4pool. it would be strong against cc first but lose to pretty much everything else but be almost a garuntee win against CC first
that says alot about lizzies skill it must be horrible because if a zerg uses a 4pool because he knows he sucks at everything else, it must mean the zerg sucks
im just correcting people who are commenting about "oh lizzy lost those goons there, etc etc, man he sucks" as giving reasons he sucks but in reality you should be saying "lizzy did some horrible all-in build almost similar to a 4pool in function. it means he knows he cannot play a real game competitively and thus he sucks"
No, it's not akin to a 4pool, it's more akin to killing one of your drones and doing a 3pool.
The point is not only did he choose a bad build, he didn't even do it correctly and ended up with an abomination. Lizzy was 8 supply behind before he even attacked the bunker. That is inexcusable.
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Hmm, I have yet to see a decent terran play in PL.. I get that it's a new game for them, but the protoss & zerg players have shown themselves from a lot better side than the terrans.
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