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[Code S] "The Chosen 8" 2012 GSL Season 2 Day 2 - Page 99
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Coal
Sweden1535 Posts
Track his IP and hang him for treason!!!! | ||
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sc2holar
Sweden1637 Posts
On May 03 2012 21:32 DreamOen wrote: U cant say that a player in the round of 8 in the hardest ever tournament in the world, is overrated. unless hes a foreigner/possibly a woman. then its all because of luck and easy brackets. | ||
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0ne
Spain2464 Posts
On May 03 2012 21:26 sc2holar wrote: i agree. there are hundreds of people who will praise MVP and proclaim him the best player in the world even if he plays a poor series and wins by using bitbybit tactics. just imagine the reaction here on TL if Bitbybit had defeating naniwa (the only foreigner in GSL) by using the same builds MvP did. Yet, since its MVP, its smart and innovative. I red your post then i checked your nationality. I wasn't dissapointed  | ||
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HaXXspetten
Sweden15718 Posts
I liquibetted on NaNi, but was still cheering for MVP despite being a swede solely to ensure PartinG's free-win to the finals. Also liquibetted against and hoped for the loss of both the Liquid' players for the sake of Squirtle. (Well okay, didn't really have a big opinion on SuperNoVa/HerO, I'm not a huge fan of either, and none of them should be able to beat Squirtle nor Taeja for that matter, so the match just felt a little pointless imo.) Haters gonna hate. | ||
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s3rp
Germany3192 Posts
On May 03 2012 21:31 one-one-one wrote: Goody might not be the guy with good enough mechanics to use it at its best. Has anyone checked if he has a higher win percentage after switching to bio ? MKP and vileIllusion have been meching some lately in TvP. They have slightly different styles though, as MKP tends to favor really fast double forge upgrades, while illusion delays his upgrades for quite some time. The double upgrades tells you that his play is long term focused, so don't come and tell me that he is just doing some gimmicky shit hoping to catch the protoss off guard. In the games it is very clear though that the mech style needs to be explored as the players often push at the wrong times with too little units or with wrong unit compositions. There are Maps where Mech can work in TvP but most of the current Maps are pretty bad for it. Too much open space too many expansions that are too far way and easy to take. Mech is not cost effecient enough against standard Toss armies if both sides have enough resources to rebuild. Mech just rebuild too slow . | ||
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teamamerica
United States958 Posts
On May 03 2012 21:26 sc2holar wrote: i agree. there are hundreds of people who will praise MVP and proclaim him the best player in the world even if he plays a poor series and wins by using bitbybit tactics. just imagine the reaction here on TL if Bitbybit had defeating naniwa (the only foreigner in GSL) by using the same builds MvP did. Yet, since its MVP, its smart and innovative. Uh wtf. No one really said it was innovative. It was pretty fucking smart though. And also, wtf Naniwa wouldn't lose to Bitbybit if Bitbybit only marine-scv allin, if that's all he is good at. Just play safer against Bitbybit, knowing you're better in a long game. You cut corners vs MVP because you're afraid of longer games with him and so MVP can exploit that. It's just let Squirtle keeping Terrans honest by 2base collusi allins over and over. Or Puma mixing in a ton of 1-1-1 in his TvP, or even the time some Toss (I forgot who) just voidray busted every game. Keep players honest -> have slight edge as player must play safe against you -> translate that slight edge into a victory in a longer game (presuming you can also play a long game, which you assume Bitbybit can't). Or whatever Zergs mix in a good amount of roach-bling busts. And no shit MVP has fans, he played sick good, despite not having wrists. HerO hasn't won shit so he's a different category (but it's TL house so) but how can you not respect the player who was, probably for the longest contiguous block, the most feared player in GSL? Why would you mock someone for being a fan of the highest level of play, which MVP demonstrated for a good period of time. | ||
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Alryk
United States2718 Posts
On May 03 2012 20:53 one-one-one wrote: Yeah , no wonder high level terrans don't use higher tech units when there is feedback. At the very least they could tweak it a little bit. T just needs a slight encouragement to begin experimenting with other stuff. I mean, how realistic is it that high templar , who is some kind of priest , manages to short-circuit a mighty space ship with psionic abilities? What kind of crappy space ship engineer designs their battlecruisers anyways... Its more likely than an electromagnetic pulse stripping a non electrically based energy field off of protoss  feedback could he some form of telekinesis. EMP is... an EMP. XDThe problem is to beat HT you either news ghosts or you need to be MKP. (This post is intended as a joke, not making any balance comments) | ||
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MaNaVoId
492 Posts
On May 03 2012 21:28 Talin wrote: ` You're trying to come up with a logic that will make Squirtle's mechanics and multitasking equal to HerO's, you need to do a lot more mental gymnastics than I do. Squirtle's got a mediocre progamer-level multitasking. It is NOT how he gets his wins in any matchup. He's not horrible at it because he wouldn't be a progamer if he were. But he's not anywhere even near the top mechanically either. I get it, you've seen him do something that involved looking away from your growing main army in a few games. I've seen Goody do multi-pronged Banshee harass in one game, I've seen him micro Reapers in two places on Tal Darim in another. Building a coherent argument out of that being a sign of a genius and comparing it to a player who basically built his entire success so far on having superior control and multitasking to make up and make his way out of basically every bad spot he gets in is borderline ridiculous. I've seen both series against NesTea at IPL and I honestly can't even remember anything special, I hope you're not referring to sniping the third with 3 DTs you're not even watching. Yea right im sure you do not need to have top level mechanics to go 11-0 streak in code S. | ||
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Irre
United States646 Posts
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sc2holar
Sweden1637 Posts
On May 03 2012 21:42 0ne wrote: I red your post then i checked your nationality. I wasn't dissapointed You know, some of us swedes know a little more about naniwas history, and sides of him that he has not displayed on the international scene, and therefor dont like him that much. Regardless, i will always be rooting for a foreigner in a GSL game. We are talking about MVP, not naniwa. i would have said the same thing if MVP had won against MC or Squirtle. | ||
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0ne
Spain2464 Posts
Protoss does well one season " IMBALANCE " Stay classy terrans :p | ||
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Slangen
Sweden1166 Posts
And hopefully its more close series then this.. | ||
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LeLfe
France3160 Posts
On May 03 2012 21:59 0ne wrote: Terran does well every season " hey terran players are just better " Protoss does well one season " IMBALANCE " Stay classy terrans :p pretty funny considering how Zerg and Toss have been crying for months | ||
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Doublemint
Austria8366 Posts
On May 03 2012 22:07 LeLfe wrote: pretty funny considering how Zerg and Toss have been crying for months What´s also "funny", is that even Blizzard found it "funny" and tweaked the balance a bit - looks like the whining was not all that uncalled for. | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
If you look at ro8, the number of seasons with more Terrans than Protoss is actually equal to the number of seasons with more Protoss than terrans. Terrans have had more champions and indeed have had stronger results overall, but it is not as drastic as some Protoss player claim it to have been. Even this season, people were saying it is the first season in a long time with more Ps in Ro8. Which is pretty funny since there were more Ps just LAST season. Actually, I would love to see what would happen if they took away cloak from ghosts but gave them a slightly longer range on snipes and/or EMP. Obviously, they will no longer fit the term 'ghost'. But I want to see them be a harder counter to casters and having both cloak and range would be OP. But in high level play, cloak is rarely useful since most players will have detection in big engagements. I guess it removes ghosts sneaking in and nuking but those are usually most for won games. Of course, this would need to be tested but I would be interested to see MVP/MKP's ghostshave micro wars vs PartinG/HerO's HTs. The 1 range advantage doesn't seem enough right now given terrans still need to stutter step and Protoss have multiple HTs spread. It could be an upgrade so it only affects the mid/late game. | ||
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Douillos
France3195 Posts
On May 03 2012 22:13 Doublemint wrote: What´s also "funny", is that even Blizzard found it "funny" and tweaked the balance a bit - looks like the whining was not all that uncalled for. A bit?? Check how many nerfs terran has had... And im an ex Zerg who actually found it was too much even back then. | ||
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sc2holar
Sweden1637 Posts
On May 03 2012 22:22 Douillos wrote: A bit?? Check how many nerfs terran has had... And im an ex Zerg who actually found it was too much even back then. And every single nerf was deserved. im an ex terran and even i found the terran dominance a little too much back then (or more like for the entire lifespan of SC2) Also the removal of KA and the void ray upgrade are far bigger nerfs than all terran nerfs combined. most terran nerfs are like "+5 seconds build time on bunker" and such things that dont really make a difference. Stim reasearch time and snipe nerf are the only terran nerfs that really made a huge impact. | ||
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Douillos
France3195 Posts
On May 03 2012 22:27 sc2holar wrote: And every single nerf was deserved. im an ex terran and even i found the terran dominance a little too much back then (or more like for the entire lifespan of SC2) Meh. Everything was deserved except the ghost nerfs. EMP radius + leaving enough energy for a storm is just stupid | ||
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Westy
England808 Posts
On May 03 2012 22:13 vthree wrote: Love how protoss claim this is the ONE season they are doing well in and terrans have been dominating forever... If you look at ro8, the number of seasons with more Terrans than Protoss is actually equal to the number of seasons with more Protoss than terrans. Terrans have had more champions and indeed have had stronger results overall, but it is not as drastic as some Protoss player claim it to have been. Even this season, people were saying it is the first season in a long time with more Ps in Ro8. Which is pretty funny since there were more Ps just LAST season. Actually, I would love to see what would happen if they took away cloak from ghosts but gave them a slightly longer range on snipes and/or EMP. Obviously, they will no longer fit the term 'ghost'. But I want to see them be a harder counter to casters and having both cloak and range would be OP. But in high level play, cloak is rarely useful since most players will have detection in big engagements. I guess it removes ghosts sneaking in and nuking but those are usually most for won games. Of course, this would need to be tested but I would be interested to see MVP/MKP's ghostshave micro wars vs PartinG/HerO's HTs. The 1 range advantage doesn't seem enough right now given terrans still need to stutter step and Protoss have multiple HTs spread. It could be an upgrade so it only affects the mid/late game. Why the hell do people like you just pull information out of your ass? Number of GSL's where terran have been the most represented race in the RO8 = 5 Number of GSL's where protoss have been the most represented race in the RO8 = 2 Number of GSL's where both have been equal = 2 | ||
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HaXXspetten
Sweden15718 Posts
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