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Yamulo
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2096 Posts
May 08 2012 03:54 GMT
#2161
On May 04 2012 09:56 tranmillitary wrote:
I never thought in a million years that Hero would make the final 4. So happy for team liquid which we are all apart (on these forums supporting at least). I always thought hero was a 2nd rate toss, but he has proven he's not. I hope it's MVP vs Hero finals, but my head is telling me it's gonna be Parting and squirtle.

Nah, it will be Parting vs HerO. Also, good players can make a good PvP because even though PvP is shit like 70% of the time it has the potential to be really cool.
~~~Liquid Fighting (SC2)~~~
Yamulo
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2096 Posts
May 08 2012 03:55 GMT
#2162
On May 04 2012 12:51 darkest44 wrote:
These threads remind me why I have started watching less and less SC2. The fan community is just pathetic, thread is just 90% balance whiners. It's such a joke, based on one or two sets where their favorite player or race loses kids here will scream imbalance like blizzard should drastically patch the game overnight and esports is ruined if they dont.

Meanwhile, the next week, or month, with no patches happening you watch sets with the other race winning just as handedly, or things like MKP winning multiple tournaments in a row while gold league armchair experts are whining about how horribly weak and hopeless Terran are. Eyeroll. Fucking joke the lot of you whiners.

Why do you read the threads then? I am not trying to instigate, but you could simply avoid them and still enjoy sc2.
~~~Liquid Fighting (SC2)~~~
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
May 08 2012 05:12 GMT
#2163
On May 05 2012 02:14 blamekilly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 04:24 Heavenlee wrote:
So many complaints about storms lately...yet so few terrans are even using ghosts effectively nowadays. A lot of them aren't even bothering to build them, as if the EMP radius nerf somehow made them useless. It's been widely known that there is a major AOE battle between ghosts and high templar but terrans are losing it constantly, for no reason. Ghost v Templar is not imbalanced in either favor, it comes down to skill, but in recent months terrans just haven't been doing it.

All those devastating storms that go off and make the game look imbalanced...? How about use some actual EMPs, ghost cloak, snipe templar and observers? How many games in the past have been completely swung by EMPs but now terran aren't even using them?


Because you need really high APM(higher than pros even) for all the shit you listed while the Protoss A-moves and clicks storm. I'd really like to see you try to EMP a split up army, snipe templars, dodge storms, split your own units, move out of storms, stim, focus fire collosi with vikings since you made it sound soooo easy to do.


It's called prioritising.

I mean Protoss could a-move + storm + forcefield + guardian shield + focus fire vikings + target splash areas with collosus + blink micro stalkers + get archons to front lines. More in there I'm sure.

Basically, I don't like seeing the "Oh man we can't EMP and control ghosts there's too much other stuff to do". No. At the moment it's EMP and control ghosts or just die, and that's how the metagame is right now. Maybe Blizzard will advance the matchup sometime, but whilst MMMVG is the norm you've actually got to be prepared to use the G in that better.

A lot of this recent Protoss whine has been from advancement in controlling templars, but I'm yet to see a battle where the ghosts did their job and then the terran lost. Legitimetely good storms are actually still a recent thing with players when you compare the boss toss MC's storms (so-so) to Parting's (pretty freaking fantastic).

There are players who use infestors well. There are players who use HT well. I can't think of one terran player who I would say "Yeah, they take care of their ghosts" except MVP in TvZ pre-snipe patch.

Ghost control. That's where we're at. Though perhaps I'm wrong, wondering if someone has seen great ghost control in a TvP that was one-sided to the Protoss? Feel free to point out a game like that. I actually really want to see more good ghost control, because spellcasters are really the most exciting units in my opinion.

Please don't point out Supernova vs Hero Game 1 though for "good ghosts", because I've seen people doing that in TvP arguments =/. He EMP'd zealots and then died to storms. It's the equivalent of focus firing tanks on immortals. Sure it does something, but really =(
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