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On May 03 2012 20:37 xN.07)MaK wrote:
MVP > Naniwa: Bit-by-bit roflstomp
Parting > Oz: Roflstomp
Hero > Supernova: Roflstomp
Squirtle > Taeja: Roflstomp
Can this possibly be the worst RO8 ever?
well I expected Supernova and Naniwa to get rolled, since they are plain overrated.
Squirtle is beasting up since IPL, and he was favored too.
Only surprise for me comes from PartinG doing that Boss PvP, but hey he probably deserves it much more than anyone else, afterall he killed M KAY PIII
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I hope MVP rushes his way to the championship and cries Protoss so imba in every interview what else am I supposed to do. Then they will nerf Terran again.
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On May 03 2012 20:41 sc2holar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 20:37 Fubi wrote:On May 03 2012 20:33 Rainfall7711 wrote:
Isn't it ironic. I remember a few months back everyone was sick of Terrans and TvT. Protoss dominates most Terran one season everyone gets pitch forks about balance and are now rooting for the Terran LOL. Because objectively speaking, TvT is actually a decent matchup, we were only sick of it because we had too much of it. PvP on the other hand... Stop this "PvP sucks" mentality thats been around since the Beta. The matchup has evolved alot and the days of 4gate vs 4gate are far gone. PvP is actually one of the most skill-intensive matchups in the game. And definitely the most Micro intensive. The only part about PvP thats not so entertaining is the lategame (colossus vs colossus, best spread wins)
Foreign Protoss who use motherships and speed prisms and air transitions want a word with you 
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I don't mind a pvp over a tvt.
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On May 03 2012 20:39 Amlitzer wrote:
If we end up with a PvP finals it will be the death of GOM. The only good that could come from it is hopefully blizzard will get their act together and stop needlessly buffing them already.
As a spectator I'm tired of watching terrans MMM getting shredded, it would certainly be nice to see more mech play in the matchup.
I honestly don't think mech needs a buff. Removing strike cannons along with thor energy would be enough I think.
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On May 03 2012 20:40 Lysanias wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 20:37 GodOfWar wrote:On May 03 2012 20:33 Talin wrote:On May 03 2012 20:30 Arceus wrote:On May 03 2012 20:29 Talin wrote:Can't wait for HerO to destroy this guy.  ppl claim that Squirtle got a 100% PvP. And hes really that good in mirror And none of the Ps he beat were HerO (since like a year ago). Hero's fundamentals are way better, as long as he doesn't get mindfucked by builds it won't even be close. Squirtle can't even land a freaking forcefield. -_- dont fool yourself, Squirtle has best PvP right now, he owned MC, Oz etc... Just another step to the throne. And that matters now ? I mean do they play right now ? Nope so let's save these "Facts" for after the game, i like to see HerO get time to prepare aswell and then hit it off against Squirtle doing the same. After the results we can say who's got the better pvp, for now it's impossible to say.
So, by your logic, only the present matters, and thus, there's no point in talking about anything. -_-;;
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On May 03 2012 20:42 Talin wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 20:39 FakeDeath wrote:On May 03 2012 20:37 Talin wrote:On May 03 2012 20:36 HolyArrow wrote:On May 03 2012 20:35 Talin wrote:On May 03 2012 20:35 Asha` wrote:On May 03 2012 20:33 Talin wrote:On May 03 2012 20:30 Arceus wrote:On May 03 2012 20:29 Talin wrote:Can't wait for HerO to destroy this guy. ppl claim that Squirtle got a 100% PvP. And hes really that good in mirror And none of the Ps he beat were HerO (since like a year ago). Hero's fundamentals are way better, as long as he doesn't get mindfucked by builds it won't even be close. Squirtle can't even land a freaking forcefield. -_- Squirtle is better than HerO lol In which segment of the game is Squirtle better than HerO specifically? PvP, obviously. I love Hero, but there's not really any case for him being better than Squirtle in PvP. PvP is a matchup, not a segment of the game. -_- What is Squirtle specifically better at, skill wise? Timing attacks and better understanding of the match-up. When it comes to mechanics and multitasking, Squirtle can basically sit down, it's not even within the realm of possibility that he can match HerO in those. And that's not something you can learn in a week either.
I know you're a massive liquid fanboy, but you're speaking completely out of your ass rofl.
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On May 03 2012 20:42 Big J wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 20:40 ZenithM wrote:On May 03 2012 20:40 Scarecrow wrote:On May 03 2012 20:38 sc2holar wrote:On May 03 2012 20:33 Jaegeru wrote:
Most likely going to be a PvP finals, this is going to be the worst GSL final ever. PvP is a good matchup nowdays, get with the times. It's still the worst mu in sc2 by a decent margin... ZvZ wants a word with you. ZvZ is awesome, not one of those sissy "hiding inside my base until I have 10000000000 tanks/colossus" matchups.
I don't play Protoss, but I can tell you that TvT is not a "sissy matchup".
You don't understand how tense StarCraft can get until you've played some 40 minute TvTs.
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On May 03 2012 20:38 Spiner wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 20:36 Doublemint wrote:On May 03 2012 20:33 Spiner wrote:On May 03 2012 20:30 Doublemint wrote:On May 03 2012 20:28 Azzur wrote:
Terran 0-6 today A good day it was But I am astonished how Taeja let the last game slip out of his hands - baserace should have favored him quite a bit. How would the basetrade favor taeja? Squirtle had the better army and has forcfields to block ramps. He had OC, production and almost even worker count, while Squirtle had a better army but had to rebuild practically everything - you tell me? Actually squirtle was able to rebuild production faster than taeja because taeja was supply blocked for like five minutes.
? Taeja had a lot of minerals, SCVs and OC with mules AND a lot of barracks, while Squirtle had to wait for Nexus to finish - I don´t follow your trail of thoughts. Ps infrastructure got completely destroyed while T was able to save a lot of his buildings. Apart from the army(where Taeja had mobility but not the firepower) Taeja should have had the upper hand imho... but I am not in Code S or any Code so what do I know x-D
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On May 03 2012 20:37 xN.07)MaK wrote:
MVP > Naniwa: Bit-by-bit roflstomp
Parting > Oz: Roflstomp
Hero > Supernova: Roflstomp
Squirtle > Taeja: Roflstomp
Can this possibly be the worst RO8 ever?
GSL january 2011 and GSL season 3 were round of 8 were god awful.
Especially season 3
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On May 03 2012 20:40 Scarecrow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 20:38 sc2holar wrote:On May 03 2012 20:33 Jaegeru wrote:
Most likely going to be a PvP finals, this is going to be the worst GSL final ever. PvP is a good matchup nowdays, get with the times. It's still the worst mu in sc2 by a decent margin...
Hmm, I personally enjoy PvP quite a bit more than ZvZ, just my preference as a Toss though I guess ^^
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On May 03 2012 20:44 Doublemint wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 20:38 Spiner wrote:On May 03 2012 20:36 Doublemint wrote:On May 03 2012 20:33 Spiner wrote:On May 03 2012 20:30 Doublemint wrote:On May 03 2012 20:28 Azzur wrote:
Terran 0-6 today A good day it was But I am astonished how Taeja let the last game slip out of his hands - baserace should have favored him quite a bit. How would the basetrade favor taeja? Squirtle had the better army and has forcfields to block ramps. He had OC, production and almost even worker count, while Squirtle had a better army but had to rebuild practically everything - you tell me? Actually squirtle was able to rebuild production faster than taeja because taeja was supply blocked for like five minutes. ? Taeja had a lot of minerals, SCVs and OC with mules AND a lot of barracks, while Squirtle had to wait for Nexus to finish - I don´t follow your trail of thoughts. Ps infrastructure got completely destroyed while T was able to save a lot of his buildings. Apart from the army(where Taeja had mobility but not the firepower) Taeja should have had the upper hand imho... but I am not in Code S or any Code so what do I know x-D
One thing is for sure.
Squirtle has better crisis management in base trade than Taeja.
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On May 03 2012 20:40 Dodgin wrote:
I'm still laughing to myself about how some posters were saying Mvp is playing bad this season yet he's the last Terran alive.
Ro4 should be really good.
There was one game where Tasteless kind of obsessed about some subpar play from MVP in the Ro32 I think, and then since then people have seemingly been parroting that MVP is now "bad". Nevermind him being the #1 most successful player in all of GSL
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On May 03 2012 20:44 FuzzyJAM wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 20:42 Big J wrote:On May 03 2012 20:40 ZenithM wrote:On May 03 2012 20:40 Scarecrow wrote:On May 03 2012 20:38 sc2holar wrote:On May 03 2012 20:33 Jaegeru wrote:
Most likely going to be a PvP finals, this is going to be the worst GSL final ever. PvP is a good matchup nowdays, get with the times. It's still the worst mu in sc2 by a decent margin... ZvZ wants a word with you. ZvZ is awesome, not one of those sissy "hiding inside my base until I have 10000000000 tanks/colossus" matchups. I don't play Protoss, but I can tell you that TvT is not a "sissy matchup". You don't understand how tense StarCraft can get until you've played some 40 minute TvTs.
I have it's not bad, but go and play 40mins ZvZ on TDA, THAT is tense.
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Whats up with all the whining today? Is it because Naniwa lost?
I love how the 1st time T are not a majority on the RO4 means that something is broken lol.Wait and see for all we know its the maps that are making Ps win so much this season.
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On May 03 2012 20:43 Asha` wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 20:42 Talin wrote:On May 03 2012 20:39 FakeDeath wrote:On May 03 2012 20:37 Talin wrote:On May 03 2012 20:36 HolyArrow wrote:On May 03 2012 20:35 Talin wrote:On May 03 2012 20:35 Asha` wrote:On May 03 2012 20:33 Talin wrote:On May 03 2012 20:30 Arceus wrote:On May 03 2012 20:29 Talin wrote:Can't wait for HerO to destroy this guy. ppl claim that Squirtle got a 100% PvP. And hes really that good in mirror And none of the Ps he beat were HerO (since like a year ago). Hero's fundamentals are way better, as long as he doesn't get mindfucked by builds it won't even be close. Squirtle can't even land a freaking forcefield. -_- Squirtle is better than HerO lol In which segment of the game is Squirtle better than HerO specifically? PvP, obviously. I love Hero, but there's not really any case for him being better than Squirtle in PvP. PvP is a matchup, not a segment of the game. -_- What is Squirtle specifically better at, skill wise? Timing attacks and better understanding of the match-up. When it comes to mechanics and multitasking, Squirtle can basically sit down, it's not even within the realm of possibility that he can match HerO in those. And that's not something you can learn in a week either. I know you're a massive liquid fanboy, but you're speaking completely out of your ass rofl.
Not to mention that Talin conveniently ignored my mentioning of Squirtle's PvZ, which involves Squirtle doing stuff all over the map in ultra-lategame scenarios.
Maybe he should address that point instead of conveniently ignoring it.
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On May 03 2012 20:41 sc2holar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 20:37 Fubi wrote:On May 03 2012 20:33 Rainfall7711 wrote:
Isn't it ironic. I remember a few months back everyone was sick of Terrans and TvT. Protoss dominates most Terran one season everyone gets pitch forks about balance and are now rooting for the Terran LOL. Because objectively speaking, TvT is actually a decent matchup, we were only sick of it because we had too much of it. PvP on the other hand... Stop this "PvP sucks" mentality thats been around since the Beta. The matchup has evolved alot and the days of 4gate vs 4gate are far gone. PvP is actually one of the most skill-intensive matchups in the game. And definitely the most Micro intensive. The only part about PvP thats not so entertaining is the lategame (colossus vs colossus, best spread wins)
For me PvP is only enjoyable to watch if you have good Toss pros like Grubby or Hasu casting it. Rotterdam casting PvPs is also great because he has great understanding of the MU and is good at it himself.
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Anyone complaining about PVP finals needs to go watch Bisu vs Stork 2007 MSL finals, and realise that if you put two titans up against each other, NO MATTER THE MATCH UP the games can still be epic.
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On May 03 2012 20:43 one-one-one wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2012 20:39 Amlitzer wrote:
If we end up with a PvP finals it will be the death of GOM. The only good that could come from it is hopefully blizzard will get their act together and stop needlessly buffing them already. As a spectator I'm tired of watching terrans MMM getting shredded, it would certainly be nice to see more mech play in the matchup. I honestly don't think mech needs a buff. Removing strike cannons along with thor energy would be enough I think.
Feedback not hurting massive would also do it.
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congrat hero and squirtle
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