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On April 14 2012 15:46 IshinShishi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2012 15:45 sc14s wrote:On April 14 2012 15:45 unknownGamer wrote:On April 14 2012 15:43 HaXXspetten wrote:On April 14 2012 15:42 CosmicSpiral wrote:On April 14 2012 15:41 Porcelina wrote:On April 14 2012 15:40 CosmicSpiral wrote:On April 14 2012 15:39 Resilient wrote:
Part of me can't wait till the carrier is cut, it's like one of those long running jokes that should have been put of it's misery at beta. Buff carrier, remove corruptor, everyone wins. Which would also facilitate removing the Colossus. EVEN BETTER MUHAHAHAHA. Or like... cut carrier build time in half or smth? The carrier is a unit that treads on a line between OP and UP. Blizzard already admitted they fuck up and are removing it in HoTs. They aren't going to waste time on it when they are currently developing Hots. i would honestly prefer revamp of carrier as opposed to just dropping it Totally agree, coolest unit in the game.
protoss without the capital ship (carrier) is just stupid.
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United Kingdom3249 Posts
On April 14 2012 15:45 julianto wrote:
If Nestea is the disease that killed the Incans... and Virus is a virus, that means... MC will lose to Inca.
Hahahahaha <3
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On April 14 2012 15:44 mutton wrote:
Our dark templar
Reward or prize money is not important
Carriers are not good
Inca should know this very well
Just Like Dark Templar
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Virus is good, he does not get enough credit unfortunately. But Inca is just gimnicky cheesy player, who relly on surprise builds
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On April 14 2012 15:46 unknownGamer wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2012 15:45 sc14s wrote:On April 14 2012 15:45 unknownGamer wrote:On April 14 2012 15:43 HaXXspetten wrote:On April 14 2012 15:42 CosmicSpiral wrote:On April 14 2012 15:41 Porcelina wrote:On April 14 2012 15:40 CosmicSpiral wrote:On April 14 2012 15:39 Resilient wrote:
Part of me can't wait till the carrier is cut, it's like one of those long running jokes that should have been put of it's misery at beta. Buff carrier, remove corruptor, everyone wins. Which would also facilitate removing the Colossus. EVEN BETTER MUHAHAHAHA. Or like... cut carrier build time in half or smth? The carrier is a unit that treads on a line between OP and UP. Blizzard already admitted they fuck up and are removing it in HoTs. They aren't going to waste time on it when they are currently developing Hots. i would honestly prefer revamp of carrier as opposed to just dropping it What can you do with it? Carriers in BW will already op if they get to the right amount. In sc2 where micro is not as intense as BW it makes it even easier to use carriers. There are somethings that just can't be balanced and carrier is one of them
you could at least buff them to be viable in some sort of form instead of current literally useless form.
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On April 14 2012 15:42 unknownGamer wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2012 15:41 Porcelina wrote:On April 14 2012 15:40 CosmicSpiral wrote:On April 14 2012 15:39 Resilient wrote:
Part of me can't wait till the carrier is cut, it's like one of those long running jokes that should have been put of it's misery at beta. Buff carrier, remove corruptor, everyone wins. Which would also facilitate removing the Colossus. Just remove everything and play LoL
Pardon?
I am not advocating not getting other units developed for the game. I would just very much rather see the Colossus disappear, see good changes to the Carrier and build around that.
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The Carrier will probably be back when the Protoss expansion comes out. Blizzard will be like: "Here look at us doing sth revolutionary once again". When in thruth they just couldn't/wouldn't balance the unit when it first came out.
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On April 14 2012 15:48 sc14s wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2012 15:46 unknownGamer wrote:On April 14 2012 15:45 sc14s wrote:On April 14 2012 15:45 unknownGamer wrote:On April 14 2012 15:43 HaXXspetten wrote:On April 14 2012 15:42 CosmicSpiral wrote:On April 14 2012 15:41 Porcelina wrote:On April 14 2012 15:40 CosmicSpiral wrote:On April 14 2012 15:39 Resilient wrote:
Part of me can't wait till the carrier is cut, it's like one of those long running jokes that should have been put of it's misery at beta. Buff carrier, remove corruptor, everyone wins. Which would also facilitate removing the Colossus. EVEN BETTER MUHAHAHAHA. Or like... cut carrier build time in half or smth? The carrier is a unit that treads on a line between OP and UP. Blizzard already admitted they fuck up and are removing it in HoTs. They aren't going to waste time on it when they are currently developing Hots. i would honestly prefer revamp of carrier as opposed to just dropping it What can you do with it? Carriers in BW will already op if they get to the right amount. In sc2 where micro is not as intense as BW it makes it even easier to use carriers. There are somethings that just can't be balanced and carrier is one of them you could at least buff them to be viable in some sort of form instead of current literally useless form.
Like I said, they are on a line between OP and UP. Buffing them would just make it too damn strong. They are going to remove it, no point whining about it and pray the tempest is better then it
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On April 14 2012 15:37 BretZ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2012 15:36 johnnywup wrote:On April 14 2012 15:35 mR.bONG789 wrote:
? carrier has terrible damage output, 2 zealots have nearly the same dps as a carrier... incorrect  That couldn't be a more incorrect statement LOL
from liquidpedia
zealot dps 13.3
carrier dps 26.7 (8 Interceptors)
2 zealot dps 26.6
ofcorse u get more damage per upgrade but you also lose more from armor. lots of staple zerg units have armor to start with (roach, corruptor) which takes a huge amount off your carrier dps. therefore because corruptors have 2 armor with no upgrades, you have to have +2 while the zerg has no armor upgrades to even hit that 26.7 dps per carrier which is terrible.
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On April 14 2012 15:49 unknownGamer wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2012 15:48 sc14s wrote:On April 14 2012 15:46 unknownGamer wrote:On April 14 2012 15:45 sc14s wrote:On April 14 2012 15:45 unknownGamer wrote:On April 14 2012 15:43 HaXXspetten wrote:On April 14 2012 15:42 CosmicSpiral wrote:On April 14 2012 15:41 Porcelina wrote:On April 14 2012 15:40 CosmicSpiral wrote:On April 14 2012 15:39 Resilient wrote:
Part of me can't wait till the carrier is cut, it's like one of those long running jokes that should have been put of it's misery at beta. Buff carrier, remove corruptor, everyone wins. Which would also facilitate removing the Colossus. EVEN BETTER MUHAHAHAHA. Or like... cut carrier build time in half or smth? The carrier is a unit that treads on a line between OP and UP. Blizzard already admitted they fuck up and are removing it in HoTs. They aren't going to waste time on it when they are currently developing Hots. i would honestly prefer revamp of carrier as opposed to just dropping it What can you do with it? Carriers in BW will already op if they get to the right amount. In sc2 where micro is not as intense as BW it makes it even easier to use carriers. There are somethings that just can't be balanced and carrier is one of them you could at least buff them to be viable in some sort of form instead of current literally useless form. Like I said, they are on a line between OP and UP. Buffing them would just make it too damn strong. They are going to remove it, no point whining about it and pray the tempest is better then it
I think it is quite clear that Carriers have quite a long way to go to be considered OP.
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The stupid thing is that Blizzard didn't ever even attempt to balance the carrier. It's clearly complete crap, but it barely got any buffs in the entire history of SC2.
It's probably because buffed carriers would dominate NR20 team-games....
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?36920 Posts
How the hell.... after all this time they still spell it "Winner's Match," and "Loser's Match?"........
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For some reason i think Virus is gonna take #1 in this group. I dunno why, but he's been improving steadily as of late.
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On April 14 2012 15:50 Lann555 wrote:
The stupid thing is that Blizzard didn't ever even attempt to balance the carrier. It's clearly complete crap, but it barely got any buffs in the entire history of SC2.
It's probably because buffed carriers would dominate NR20 team-games....
It didn't get ANY buffs in the entire history of sc2
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On April 14 2012 15:50 SeeKeR wrote:
How the hell.... after all this time they still spell it "Winner's Match," and "Loser's Match?"........
Hadn't actually noticed that... lol
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I must say, NesTea is definitely looking on form tonight. Just one more to go!
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On April 14 2012 15:49 unknownGamer wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2012 15:48 sc14s wrote:On April 14 2012 15:46 unknownGamer wrote:On April 14 2012 15:45 sc14s wrote:On April 14 2012 15:45 unknownGamer wrote:On April 14 2012 15:43 HaXXspetten wrote:On April 14 2012 15:42 CosmicSpiral wrote:On April 14 2012 15:41 Porcelina wrote:On April 14 2012 15:40 CosmicSpiral wrote:On April 14 2012 15:39 Resilient wrote:
Part of me can't wait till the carrier is cut, it's like one of those long running jokes that should have been put of it's misery at beta. Buff carrier, remove corruptor, everyone wins. Which would also facilitate removing the Colossus. EVEN BETTER MUHAHAHAHA. Or like... cut carrier build time in half or smth? The carrier is a unit that treads on a line between OP and UP. Blizzard already admitted they fuck up and are removing it in HoTs. They aren't going to waste time on it when they are currently developing Hots. i would honestly prefer revamp of carrier as opposed to just dropping it What can you do with it? Carriers in BW will already op if they get to the right amount. In sc2 where micro is not as intense as BW it makes it even easier to use carriers. There are somethings that just can't be balanced and carrier is one of them you could at least buff them to be viable in some sort of form instead of current literally useless form. Like I said, they are on a line between OP and UP. Buffing them would just make it too damn strong. They are going to remove it, no point whining about it and pray the tempest is better then it
This is not comforting in the slightest. Nothing guarantees that the tempest will not suffer from the same imaginary problem (imaginary because the carrier has never been buffed so it has never been proven to be OP by design).
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On April 14 2012 15:49 unknownGamer wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2012 15:48 sc14s wrote:On April 14 2012 15:46 unknownGamer wrote:On April 14 2012 15:45 sc14s wrote:On April 14 2012 15:45 unknownGamer wrote:On April 14 2012 15:43 HaXXspetten wrote:On April 14 2012 15:42 CosmicSpiral wrote:On April 14 2012 15:41 Porcelina wrote:On April 14 2012 15:40 CosmicSpiral wrote:On April 14 2012 15:39 Resilient wrote:
Part of me can't wait till the carrier is cut, it's like one of those long running jokes that should have been put of it's misery at beta. Buff carrier, remove corruptor, everyone wins. Which would also facilitate removing the Colossus. EVEN BETTER MUHAHAHAHA. Or like... cut carrier build time in half or smth? The carrier is a unit that treads on a line between OP and UP. Blizzard already admitted they fuck up and are removing it in HoTs. They aren't going to waste time on it when they are currently developing Hots. i would honestly prefer revamp of carrier as opposed to just dropping it What can you do with it? Carriers in BW will already op if they get to the right amount. In sc2 where micro is not as intense as BW it makes it even easier to use carriers. There are somethings that just can't be balanced and carrier is one of them you could at least buff them to be viable in some sort of form instead of current literally useless form. Like I said, they are on a line between OP and UP. Buffing them would just make it too damn strong. They are going to remove it, no point whining about it and pray the tempest is better then it
i disagree completely with you they are useless because of 1-2 reasons that wouldn't nessesitate that they would be overpowered by some small changes (aquire range for intercepters for example) as well as being to easy to counter (i.e derp i lost to 1a marines which if you added +1 armor would mostly mitigate them and still leave them to be countered by hard counters vikings, corrupters ect) really wouldn't make them op.. i dont think you understand how useless that they are atm or something..
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