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On April 08 2012 13:46 Pr0wler wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2012 13:25 vndods wrote:On April 08 2012 13:24 FoBoTheBush wrote:On April 08 2012 13:20 Fubi wrote:On April 08 2012 13:14 duct_TAPE wrote:On April 08 2012 13:11 vndods wrote:On April 08 2012 13:10 Kettchup wrote:On April 08 2012 13:07 Tzuborg wrote:
After seeing the two comebacks in the MKP vs Bomber match, there really is no way the game vs PartinG could not be re-done. The comeback factor here can simply not be ignored.
GG, WP, Foxer! MKP had an army advantage in the Bomber match when Bomber thought he had it won, of course no one would be against a regame in that scenario. There was a clear route to victory for MKP, go and kill him really fast. There was no route to victory in the Parting game. MKP had nothing. Except about 10+ production buildings in his base and superior micro. But we'll leave that out I guess. When protoss (or any race for that matter) get ontop of terran production facilities and have enough army to kill off the single file units streaming out the game is over. Judging by their army positions when Marineking lost his whole army, he was dead, absolutely dead. It was too close to his production facilities to make a new army in time. 1) For the 13204982304th time, Parting was NOT on top of MKP's production buildings. MKP made 3 Barracks far outside his base in the mid game; Parting was killing those when the game DC'ed. MKP had 10-15 more barracks in his base/elsewhere 2) Parting had no money to even warp in unit at that point, while MKP had 500+ mineral/ 1300 gas banked up, PLUS units already building in his 10-15 barracks. wow... "far outside"? u need glasses it was just below the ramp to the expo you underestimate the power of scvs repairing a wall of bunkers and scv's. So suddenly we have a wall of bunkers for MKP... Well then you underestimate the power of the mothership. That's pretty ridiculous... The guy was 50 supply down with less workers and his enemy on his gate... Everyone that knows how terran and protoss work and is not biased in some way will say that terran lost that game. MKP fanboys as ridiculous as always.
I love shit like this. People pride in SC being a game where 100's and 100's of decisions are made throughout the game big and small. And yet when DC's happen people automatically become mind readers and time travelers. Go look at the MKP vs Bomber game and after MKP's initial push when he left with Bomber's natural Orbital on fire if a DC had occurred people would've thought MKP had it 99% won. But wait, what is this? Then Bomber does a drop in MKP's base which catches him completely off guard and he ends up losing a ton of SCV's and units. If a DC occurs then people then think Bomber has it in the bag since he's getting up a third. But wait again! What's this MKP continues to pump marines/tanks and goes and destroys Bomber's third while Bomber doesn't bother to defend and it becomes a base race with MKP winning in the end.
My point is NOBODY knows how a game is going to work itself out. NOBODY can see the future, shit is LIKELY to happen but nothing is a CERTAINTY. Nerves screw people up ALL the time, in real life as well as in sports. Especially in sports! There are very talented athletes that never make it professionally because they can never overcome the pressure. Was Parting likely to win the game? Yes. Was it a certainty enough to reward him the win? Hell no. No win should ever be awarded unless the other player is at fault for the "DC/interruption" in the game or he chooses to surrender out of his own free will. MKP never typed GG so he never lost it and I'd say that about every single player in that same exact position. If you want a win make your opponent type GG or leave the game. Nothing should ever be awarded by judges because SC is just too volatile and ANYTHING can happen at any moment and that's why we freaking love this game.
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On April 08 2012 14:03 JoeSchmoe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2012 14:00 Denzil wrote:On April 08 2012 13:55 JiPrime wrote:On April 08 2012 13:52 Denzil wrote:On April 08 2012 13:49 JiPrime wrote:
You haters can keep talking.
Nothings gonna change.
nothing ever changes, as a football fan who's had to put up with a lot of shit not only for chelsea but for england i understand that it feels good to vent my frustration there to friends as it does here this is one of those things that will happen that we will try to eliminate if you consider the other GSTLs they're all forgotten. but you'll remember this one, it'll be something to talk about something memorable not for the right reasons but still Oh silly me, I didn't realize that this thread was a public toilet to dispense shit. I'll just leave you guys here doing your business then. LR threads have never been anything but a public toilet. if you were clever you would only briefly browse here during downtime, the amount of retarded comments in a LR thread is unparalleded anywhere else on TL says the guy who basically lives in this thread. i guess you really like stepping on your own shit?
i never implied i was clever
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I am expecting GOM to post an indepth analysis of the game and justifications on why they thought a regame was the best decision to make.
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On April 08 2012 14:02 jmbnm wrote:
Ref call was 100% correct, and the better team won. Keep on whining, haters.
Prime might have the best team, they definitely have the best player if you look at both teams. But the best team doesn't always win.
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Parting Could have walked to MKP's main, and won the game. But Would he have?
They know and respect each other's skill, If parting watch the replay, he probably would have said, yea, I would have gone into his base and killed him, but he doesn't know how much MKP had, maybe Parting thinks MKP had a giant army, and goes home to wait for more collosus. We have 100% map awareness, but the player do not. Parting could have retreated and built up and allowed MKP to recover.
20/20 Hindsight.
Worst case scenario:
Let's say Parting didn't see the 6 vikings, uses his warp prism to warp an entire round of unit in mkp's base, wp gets sniped by vikings before warp in finishes, parting loses entire production cycle, what then?
If all parties made the best decision, or had information gained from replay, Parting would have won, but it's not 100% certain that's how the game would have played out.
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Just watched the VOD and gonna mention a few points
1. Parting was not near MKP's production builds, just the 3 outside his base
2. It was 5 base vs 5 base
3. Parting only had enough money to warp in ~3 zealots/stalkers or maybe 4 HTs, with his income he might of been able to add 3 more zealots/stalkers or maybe 1 or 2 more HTs at that instance
4. MKP was able to atleast produce ~8 Maruaders and ~6 marines based on production tab from 1 min prior to drop
5. Parting had no AOE close to MKP's base, he had no HTs or collosus left near the fight and no signs of units close enough on minimap (a few units were started to move from Partings base), Warp Prism was around MKP's 3rd so wouldnt have been able to supply HTs directly to fight right away and Parting is known for warping in HTs at his base to charge energy.
From this I think MKP would of held and I dont think Parting would go up the ramp into MKPs natural. Parting might of gone over to MKP's 4th but that will give time for MKP to reinforce further.
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On April 08 2012 14:00 scaban84 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2012 13:56 Robson13 wrote:On April 08 2012 13:55 scaban84 wrote:
I seriously wish people saying MKP was dead should stfu. He had a huge bank and crazy production facilities pumping out units. Seriously, stfu. Absolutely huge bank of 500 mins and over 1000 gas but the gas is irrelevant. ^___^ Thats because he spent it all in his production queues. Look at the vod when it comes out.
He had a bank of 2k/1k throughout the later stages of the game. The fact that he ended up with 500/1000 means that either his economy was dying out, or that he added more production facilities which wouldn't have mattered as PartinG picked some off infront of his base. MKP would've ended up fighting PartinG with the similar production capabilities, except PartinG would now be on 5 bases worth of gas and more warpgates.
On April 08 2012 14:04 closter wrote:Parting Could have walked to MKP's main, and won the game. But Would he have? They know and respect each other's skill, If parting watch the replay, he probably would have said, yea, I would have gone into his base and killed him, but he doesn't know how much MKP had, maybe Parting thinks MKP had a giant army, and goes home to wait for more collosus. We have 100% map awareness, but the player do not. Parting could have retreated and built up and allowed MKP to recover. 20/20 Hindsight. Worst case scenario: Let's say Parting didn't see the 6 vikings, uses his warp prism to warp an entire round of unit in mkp's base, wp gets sniped by vikings before warp in finishes, parting loses entire production cycle, what then? If all parties made the best decision, or had information gained from replay, Parting would have won, but it's not 100% certain that's how the game would have played out. Let's respect the referee decisions
Except MKP has been throwing units at him all game and he just recently crushed an army outside the barracks. There's no way he would think there's a huge army at the top of the ramp.
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It's a dark day when TL is trying to make more drama than Slasher.
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On April 08 2012 14:03 Hrrrrm wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2012 13:46 Pr0wler wrote:On April 08 2012 13:25 vndods wrote:On April 08 2012 13:24 FoBoTheBush wrote:On April 08 2012 13:20 Fubi wrote:On April 08 2012 13:14 duct_TAPE wrote:On April 08 2012 13:11 vndods wrote:On April 08 2012 13:10 Kettchup wrote:On April 08 2012 13:07 Tzuborg wrote:
After seeing the two comebacks in the MKP vs Bomber match, there really is no way the game vs PartinG could not be re-done. The comeback factor here can simply not be ignored.
GG, WP, Foxer! MKP had an army advantage in the Bomber match when Bomber thought he had it won, of course no one would be against a regame in that scenario. There was a clear route to victory for MKP, go and kill him really fast. There was no route to victory in the Parting game. MKP had nothing. Except about 10+ production buildings in his base and superior micro. But we'll leave that out I guess. When protoss (or any race for that matter) get ontop of terran production facilities and have enough army to kill off the single file units streaming out the game is over. Judging by their army positions when Marineking lost his whole army, he was dead, absolutely dead. It was too close to his production facilities to make a new army in time. 1) For the 13204982304th time, Parting was NOT on top of MKP's production buildings. MKP made 3 Barracks far outside his base in the mid game; Parting was killing those when the game DC'ed. MKP had 10-15 more barracks in his base/elsewhere 2) Parting had no money to even warp in unit at that point, while MKP had 500+ mineral/ 1300 gas banked up, PLUS units already building in his 10-15 barracks. wow... "far outside"? u need glasses it was just below the ramp to the expo you underestimate the power of scvs repairing a wall of bunkers and scv's. So suddenly we have a wall of bunkers for MKP... Well then you underestimate the power of the mothership. That's pretty ridiculous... The guy was 50 supply down with less workers and his enemy on his gate... Everyone that knows how terran and protoss work and is not biased in some way will say that terran lost that game. MKP fanboys as ridiculous as always. I love shit like this. People pride in SC being a game where 100's and 100's of decisions are made throughout the game big and small. And yet when DC's happen people automatically become mind readers and time travelers. Go look at the MKP vs Bomber game and after MKP's initial push when he left with Bomber's natural Orbital on fire if a DC had occurred people would've thought MKP had it 99% won. But wait, what is this? Then Bomber does a drop in MKP's base which catches him completely off guard and he ends up losing a ton of SCV's and units. If a DC occurs then people then think Bomber has it in the bag since he's getting up a third. But wait again! What's this MKP continues to pump marines/tanks and goes and destroys Bomber's third while Bomber doesn't bother to defend and it becomes a base race with MKP winning in the end. My point is NOBODY knows how a game is going to work itself out. NOBODY can see the future, shit is LIKELY to happen but nothing is a CERTAINTY. Nerves screw people up ALL the time, in real life as well as in sports. Especially in sports! There are very talented athletes that never make it professionally because they can never overcome the pressure. Was Parting likely to win the game? Yes. Was it a certainty enough to reward him the win? Hell no. No win should ever be awarded unless the other player is at fault for the "DC/interruption" in the game or he chooses to surrender out of his own free will. MKP never typed GG so he never lost it and I'd say that about every single player in that same exact position. If you want a win make your opponent type GG or leave the game. Nothing should ever be awarded by judges because SC is just too volatile and ANYTHING can happen at any moment and that's why we freaking love this game.
Especially with MKP. Thats why I am a fan.
GSL open season 2 vs. Kyrix.
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On April 08 2012 13:58 Probasaur wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2012 13:51 iSunrise wrote:On April 08 2012 13:44 Probasaur wrote:
People saying MKP was dead when he had what 15+ barracks with mostly reactors pumping out 30+ units?? You're crazy.
If you think he was dead you clearly have never seen MKP make a comeback by micro-ing his last few units. He would have kited all day in his base inside the maze of barracks and stabilized.
And maybe he wouldn't of and maybe Parting would have won, HE PROBABLY WOULD HAVE WON.
BUT he didn't. The game was interrupted before it was truly over. If he had 5 barracks left and 0 units then we could say it was over, but it wasn't over. You can't say you could predict the outcome of that back and forth game, it was too close to call. And its not like Parting just crushed MKP the whole time and then it went to DC, it was prolly the closest PvT I've ever watched. Based on just that alone for you to be upset about a regame is ridiculous and you're just being blind fanboys. Be happy you got to see the rematch, although it wasn't half as good. And just be happy you got to watch one of the greatest terrans (arguably the greatest) of all time play more games and hoist the trophy he so clearly deserves.
Dwelling on the negatives are what you sad people do best. So there's really nothing anyone can say that will help you see all the facts. You'll just focus on conjecture, speculation, and your judgement over the GSL referee's.
So if I have defeated all of your units and my units are in your base you probably keep arguing that you didn´t lose that game because you had 15+ barracks still standing there. Good job posting the same post several times, doesn´t make it a bit more logical, though. You people keep saying he was in MKP's base. HE WASN'T IN HIS BASE!!! He wasn't even up the FIRST ramp yet! He was still attacking the 3 or so barracks towards the center of the map. He sent in a warp prism into his base that we saw get followed by vikings. Is THAT what you're referring to??? You guys clearly weren't watching the same game as me.
What does change for you if he stand 2 steps away from his base or if he is in his base.
Just look at the VOD: http://www.twitch.tv/ignproleague/b/314284087 (tune in to 02:29:00)
MKP had basically nothing anymore, while PartinG had units right at his base.
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On April 08 2012 14:04 boag11 wrote:
Just watched the VOD and gonna mention a few points
1. Parting was not near MKP's production builds, just the 3 outside his base
2. It was 5 base vs 5 base
3. Parting only had enough money to warp in ~3 zealots/stalkers or maybe 4 HTs, with his income he might of been able to add 3 more zealots/stalkers or maybe 1 or 2 more HTs at that instance
4. MKP was able to atleast produce ~8 Maruaders and ~6 marines based on production tab from 1 min prior to drop
5. Parting had no AOE close to MKP's base, he had no HTs or collosus left near the fight and no signs of units close enough on minimap (a few units were started to move from Partings base), Warp Prism was around MKP's 3rd so wouldnt have been able to supply HTs directly to fight right away and Parting is known for warping in HTs at his base to charge energy.
From this I think MKP would of held and I dont think Parting would go up the ramp into MKPs natural. Parting might of gone over to MKP's 4th but that will give time for MKP to reinforce further.
BOOM! The dude's 2nd post and he just owned all you loons arguing against facts. HE WAS NOT IN HIS BASE!!! He wasn't even up the 1st ramp. Yes he was camping 3 barracks outside the natural. Boom. Shutup.
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On April 08 2012 14:03 vndods wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2012 14:03 IMoperator wrote:
I would kill for MKP's unit control. If I had one wish that's what I would wish for Who wouldn't. I'd love to go mass bio against zerg.
I've tried to do it and it's nigh impossible atm lol. I'm low-midmasters too, so it's not like I'm bronze league trying to do it. He has such insane unit control that nobody even comes close to matching right now. Crazy to watch someone with that much skill. After mech got nerfed and he got a better variety of strategies, he became god tier.
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While I think Parting would've probably won, MKP vs. Bomber is all the example we need to show that the regame was the right call. If a disconnect had happened at various points of that game, everyone would be arguing "MKP had it won for sue" or "Bomber had it won for sure" despite the fact that both went on to gain huge advantages later in the game.
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This is funny
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I just watched that first MKP vs PartinG game. I understand the regame, couldn't have given the game to PartinG and be fine with it. MKP had great production and to be honest had not made too many mistakes since the beginning of the game (I would say he was ahead even). The production that was attacked was outside the natural (that is to say, 2 ramps away from MKP's main, which is very far away), with MKP still having production about everywhere on the map and 4-5 bases running, this is not a lost TvP yet...
The shitstorm would probably have been even greater with the judges giving the game to PartinG like that. Honestly the second game did look very similar, but MKP was just better, or PartinG was mentally crushed, I don't know...
Edit: Still it's regrettable that we had a dropped player and that it affected the finals overall, I still agree with that, but the regame was justified...
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On April 08 2012 14:03 mrfsy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2012 13:52 MasterKang wrote:On April 08 2012 13:31 sc14s wrote:On April 08 2012 13:21 RJGooner wrote:On April 08 2012 13:18 sc14s wrote:On April 08 2012 13:18 MasterKang wrote:On April 08 2012 13:09 DivinitySC2 wrote:On April 08 2012 13:07 Femari wrote:On April 08 2012 13:06 Argolis wrote:
MKP = The first sc2 bonjwa lol no lol yes? lol NO perhaps on the way but not yet obviously. Not even close to "on the way". He hasn't even won a GSL yet. i should quote you for later. If you do not think that MKP is or nearly is the best sc2 player atm.. how can you really argue this? are you blind or just plain dumb? he has beaten DRG twice in a row recently in important matches (current GSL champ) and beat parting tonight and at mlg winter arena (who most would consider #1 PvT in the world right now) not to mention he is in code S and has odds for winning it all. really? are you one of those BW players with grouchy old man syndrome? "In my day a bonjwa walked uphill in the snow for 10 years before he was considered a bonjwa!" I think you're just plain dumb. There's a reason why winning the GSL is a requirement for the claim of "best player in the world. IT'S THE HARDEST TOURNAMENT IN THE WORLD. How can one be the best, if you haven't beaten the best in consecutive series in the most prestigious tournament on the earth. Beating DRG, who has been playing like shit, does not automatically make you the "best player in the world". Omg he beat Parting, the best PvT'er in the world? He also got 2-0'd by JYP, whom some would consider the WORST PvT'er in the Korean scene. Doesn't make much sense for the best sc2 player to lose like that does it? The fact that MKP advanced from his Code S group isn't even that impressive. His wins were against Zenio, who has always been fluctuating between code s and a, and July, who hasn't performed well since his loss to MC in the finals. If MKP had been in the group with Jjakji, Taeja, and theSTC, the chances of him advancing were probably 15-20%. Until MKP wins the GSL, which every pro sc2 player takes the most seriously and prepares the most for, he is NOT eligible for "Best player in the world" Totally agree. Calling a player "best in the world" who never had win GSL title is just a joke... The GSL title is the achievement for the best of the best, you must own this title if you want be N°1 in the world.
No such thing as best in SC2. any top 10 could beat one another on any given day. Way titles switch hands that should be obvious. There is in depth discussions as to why in main forum.
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On April 08 2012 14:07 Probasaur wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2012 14:04 boag11 wrote:
Just watched the VOD and gonna mention a few points
1. Parting was not near MKP's production builds, just the 3 outside his base
2. It was 5 base vs 5 base
3. Parting only had enough money to warp in ~3 zealots/stalkers or maybe 4 HTs, with his income he might of been able to add 3 more zealots/stalkers or maybe 1 or 2 more HTs at that instance
4. MKP was able to atleast produce ~8 Maruaders and ~6 marines based on production tab from 1 min prior to drop
5. Parting had no AOE close to MKP's base, he had no HTs or collosus left near the fight and no signs of units close enough on minimap (a few units were started to move from Partings base), Warp Prism was around MKP's 3rd so wouldnt have been able to supply HTs directly to fight right away and Parting is known for warping in HTs at his base to charge energy.
From this I think MKP would of held and I dont think Parting would go up the ramp into MKPs natural. Parting might of gone over to MKP's 4th but that will give time for MKP to reinforce further. BOOM! The dude's 2nd post and he just owned all you loons arguing against facts. HE WAS NOT IN HIS BASE!!! He wasn't even up the 1st ramp. Yes he was camping 3 barracks outside the natural. Boom. Shutup.
you seem quite angry about this whole situation, the fact still stands that partings army decimates single file units from buildings
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On April 08 2012 14:08 tdt wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2012 14:03 mrfsy wrote:On April 08 2012 13:52 MasterKang wrote:On April 08 2012 13:31 sc14s wrote:On April 08 2012 13:21 RJGooner wrote:On April 08 2012 13:18 sc14s wrote:On April 08 2012 13:18 MasterKang wrote:On April 08 2012 13:09 DivinitySC2 wrote:On April 08 2012 13:07 Femari wrote:On April 08 2012 13:06 Argolis wrote:
MKP = The first sc2 bonjwa lol no lol yes? lol NO perhaps on the way but not yet obviously. Not even close to "on the way". He hasn't even won a GSL yet. i should quote you for later. If you do not think that MKP is or nearly is the best sc2 player atm.. how can you really argue this? are you blind or just plain dumb? he has beaten DRG twice in a row recently in important matches (current GSL champ) and beat parting tonight and at mlg winter arena (who most would consider #1 PvT in the world right now) not to mention he is in code S and has odds for winning it all. really? are you one of those BW players with grouchy old man syndrome? "In my day a bonjwa walked uphill in the snow for 10 years before he was considered a bonjwa!" I think you're just plain dumb. There's a reason why winning the GSL is a requirement for the claim of "best player in the world. IT'S THE HARDEST TOURNAMENT IN THE WORLD. How can one be the best, if you haven't beaten the best in consecutive series in the most prestigious tournament on the earth. Beating DRG, who has been playing like shit, does not automatically make you the "best player in the world". Omg he beat Parting, the best PvT'er in the world? He also got 2-0'd by JYP, whom some would consider the WORST PvT'er in the Korean scene. Doesn't make much sense for the best sc2 player to lose like that does it? The fact that MKP advanced from his Code S group isn't even that impressive. His wins were against Zenio, who has always been fluctuating between code s and a, and July, who hasn't performed well since his loss to MC in the finals. If MKP had been in the group with Jjakji, Taeja, and theSTC, the chances of him advancing were probably 15-20%. Until MKP wins the GSL, which every pro sc2 player takes the most seriously and prepares the most for, he is NOT eligible for "Best player in the world" Totally agree. Calling a player "best in the world" who never had win GSL title is just a joke... The GSL title is the achievement for the best of the best, you must own this title if you want be N°1 in the world. No such thing as best in SC2. any top 10 could beat one another on any given day. Way titles switch hands that should be obvious. There is in depth discussions as to why in main forum.
Oh bullshit.
No one wins 100% of the time. Doesn't mean there can't be a player who plays the best overall.
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The vods is out, you can watch the vods again ~2:28:00 or so.
From looking at the vods, although Parting seems to have massive lead advantage (18 zealots, 8 stalkers, 8 HTs), at the time of the dc, there're only 9 zealots 6 stalkers at MKP's outer raxes. The rest are still at bases, some are on the move. HTs are useless because he literally just warp in from 1 HTs to 8 HTs 1,2 seconds before the dc. Parting doesn't have any splash units, just pure gateway units hitting those 3 raxes. The warp prism is literally on top of the production with 6 vikings.
MKP at that time has 17 raxes, about to lose 3, but he still has 14 raxes untouched. Assuming he stops producing Viking and switches back to medivacs, 4 starports can produce a bunch of medivac very fast. Moreover, since it's Terran we can assume that ha has a bunches of units queuing in 14 raxes, unlike Parting who has to squeeze units out.
So imo, although Parting is in massive lead, maybe can even strongly push in MKP bases, but realistically, the game isn't gonna end in the next 1,2 minutes. There's no way Parting can hit that many bases in short amount of time with that amount of units.
I think that's the whole point for the remake, Parting isn't gonna win against MKP for at least 5 more minutes. He may have a big lead after that, expands more bases, making more collosuses, push out once again with more HTs, zealots,..v.v.v., and win, but he certainly is not gonna win the game with that push.
It's a shame that GomTV is not gonna release replays because that's their policies, we can only speculate for now.
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On April 08 2012 14:09 Denzil wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2012 14:07 Probasaur wrote:On April 08 2012 14:04 boag11 wrote:
Just watched the VOD and gonna mention a few points
1. Parting was not near MKP's production builds, just the 3 outside his base
2. It was 5 base vs 5 base
3. Parting only had enough money to warp in ~3 zealots/stalkers or maybe 4 HTs, with his income he might of been able to add 3 more zealots/stalkers or maybe 1 or 2 more HTs at that instance
4. MKP was able to atleast produce ~8 Maruaders and ~6 marines based on production tab from 1 min prior to drop
5. Parting had no AOE close to MKP's base, he had no HTs or collosus left near the fight and no signs of units close enough on minimap (a few units were started to move from Partings base), Warp Prism was around MKP's 3rd so wouldnt have been able to supply HTs directly to fight right away and Parting is known for warping in HTs at his base to charge energy.
From this I think MKP would of held and I dont think Parting would go up the ramp into MKPs natural. Parting might of gone over to MKP's 4th but that will give time for MKP to reinforce further. BOOM! The dude's 2nd post and he just owned all you loons arguing against facts. HE WAS NOT IN HIS BASE!!! He wasn't even up the 1st ramp. Yes he was camping 3 barracks outside the natural. Boom. Shutup. you seem quite angry about this whole situation, the fact still stands that partings army decimates single file units from buildings
The fact still stands that Parting wasn't camping MKP's production.
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