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Everyone knows the drill by now.

Keep it manner and have a good time.

We'll be watching along with you.
Daimiru
Profile Joined May 2011
74 Posts
April 08 2012 05:00 GMT
#9301
On April 08 2012 13:57 vndods wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 13:57 GodZo wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:54 Highways wrote:
I'll say Parting had that game 80%


100%

50%. Shall we keep going?

he wasn't engaging with you so if your goal is to call attention to some childish back-and-forth well, you're initiating it
Femari
Profile Joined June 2011
United States2900 Posts
April 08 2012 05:00 GMT
#9302
Winning the GSL is not a requirement to be the best player in the world. It is a requirement to be a bonjwa eventually. It's a requirement to be the most accomplished player. But not to be the best player.

The best player in the world is the strongest player in the world, or in simpler terms the best player in the world is the player who is playing the best of any player out there. Overall MKP is playing better than everyone at the moment, so he's the best player in the world. Is he a bonjwa? No. Is he more accomplished than Nestea or Mvp? No. But he's playing the best!
Mvp | BoxeR | MarineKing | MC | viOlet | Scarlett | Flash | Bisu | XellOs | Sea | Fantasy | By.Sun
scaban84
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1080 Posts
April 08 2012 05:00 GMT
#9303
On April 08 2012 13:56 Robson13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 13:55 scaban84 wrote:
I seriously wish people saying MKP was dead should stfu. He had a huge bank and crazy production facilities pumping out units. Seriously, stfu.

Absolutely huge bank of 500 mins and over 1000 gas but the gas is irrelevant. ^___^

Thats because he spent it all in his production queues. Look at the vod when it comes out.
"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design." — Friedrich von Hayek
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
April 08 2012 05:00 GMT
#9304
On April 08 2012 13:55 JiPrime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 13:52 Denzil wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:49 JiPrime wrote:
You haters can keep talking.
Nothings gonna change.


nothing ever changes, as a football fan who's had to put up with a lot of shit not only for chelsea but for england i understand that
it feels good to vent my frustration there to friends as it does here
this is one of those things that will happen that we will try to eliminate

if you consider the other GSTLs they're all forgotten. but you'll remember this one, it'll be something to talk about something memorable not for the right reasons but still


Oh silly me, I didn't realize that this thread was a public toilet to dispense shit.
I'll just leave you guys here doing your business then.


LR threads have never been anything but a public toilet.

if you were clever you would only briefly browse here during downtime, the amount of retarded comments in a LR thread is unparalleded anywhere else on TL
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
AzureD
Profile Joined September 2010
United States320 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-08 05:01:13
April 08 2012 05:00 GMT
#9305
On April 08 2012 13:56 oogieogie wrote:
MKP was easily dead...parting would just have to walk into main, and then sit on production while everything slowly died n use the warp prism to reinforce his army. MKP units can't be microed to death if they die once they come out. (if he didn't have a warp prism or pylon at the end then parting could just move his army across the map)


I just watched the VOD. I am pretty sure MKP would hold it after rewatching it a few times. Most of Parting army was far away at his main. Parting had no money at all and Vikings would kill his Warp Prism in seconds since he had 6 of them which I am certain where very near since they just finished. Since Parting had no money it is likely he just finished a warp in cycle. At the same time MKP was banking hundreds of minerals. Parting mostly had Stalkers near MKP base with very few Zealots.

Also you can't say if any lag that MKP might have been interfering with him at that critical moment as that is the only time MKP suffered so badly.

However no one can say anything unless they watched the replay.
RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-08 05:01:59
April 08 2012 05:01 GMT
#9306
On April 08 2012 13:24 Disengaged wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 13:22 JiPrime wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:19 Nethermind wrote:
I'm interested in hearing Korean nitizen opinions on this; are they are divided and anti/pro-Prime as foreigners are?


They share same opinions as you guys, but they are much more civil about it.
(HINT: They are banning any raging douchebags left and right with speed of light)
They're blaming shitty american internet, though.
They are saying GSTL should only host in Korean soil from now on.


Lol. Our internet is fine. Their internet isn't any better. Just because it happened in the US first doesn't mean it wouldn't happen in Korea.


Actually... Koreas internet is around 10 times better than ours. But yeah, I know what you're saying. :D
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GodZo
Profile Joined November 2011
Italy224 Posts
April 08 2012 05:01 GMT
#9307
The post is going down.

Parting is the new Hero! That's all!
프로토스, Yellow, GdZ
Enzymatic
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1301 Posts
April 08 2012 05:01 GMT
#9308
3 Marauders v.s 18 Zealots or something, a few HT's, some stalkers, and warp-in.. While also being able to sit on the Terran production buildings in the main within 5 seconds of the D/C. That game was PartinG's.

GSTL Finals = Completely compromised.
"Who hired this awful fountain gunner? He can't hit shit." - Yiss
Uwanfite
Profile Joined June 2011
United States83 Posts
April 08 2012 05:02 GMT
#9309
On April 08 2012 14:00 figq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 13:55 scaban84 wrote:
I seriously wish people saying MKP was dead should stfu. He had a huge bank and crazy production facilities pumping out units. Seriously, stfu.
I'd love to hear the thoughts of some referees and the two players and their coaches as well. I agree that the information we as spectators had was too limited, even though we could see the number of units they had. We can't properly asses the production cycle and position.

I'm willing to trust that experienced Korean observers and players who analyzed the situation did not take such a decision lightly and may have had solid reasons. It would help a lot if they put forward a detailed press release with their analysis.

No, that makes too much sense, it was obviously made in a completely unfair way to cause drama.
jmbnm
Profile Joined July 2011
24 Posts
April 08 2012 05:02 GMT
#9310
Ref call was 100% correct, and the better team won. Keep on whining, haters.
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
April 08 2012 05:02 GMT
#9311
On April 08 2012 13:59 vndods wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 13:59 Denzil wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:54 Femari wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:52 Denzil wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:50 vndods wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:48 Leth0 wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:46 vndods wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:44 Denzil wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:42 vndods wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:41 Denzil wrote:
[quote]

using the already defeated player

Wow you're still posting bullshit lol. On the otherhand, I just took a nice shit.


says the fanboy that said he wasn't going to talk to me anymore

says the antiMKP fan who keeps posting bullshit like MKP lost against Parting.


He didn't just lose to parting, he got dominated by parting. Anyone who knows even a little bit about starcraft knows that. Parting took MKP to school in that game then got robbed by some referee's who were to scared make the right call in front of an audience.

Hm, from what I could tell MKP and Parting were even in the first game, and then MKP spanked him in the second.


60 supply down

the game was even

Doubtful but he might be referring to the game as a whole which was very even with MKP holding a slight lead for 90% of the game.


i've seen demuslim hold advantages all game long against protosses and still lose

Bling v Demuslim on Metropolis at the LSC comes to mind

Now you're comparing MKP to demuslim?


of course demuslim is as good as mkp don't you agree?
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-08 05:03:13
April 08 2012 05:02 GMT
#9312
On April 08 2012 14:01 Enzymatic wrote:
3 Marauders v.s 18 Zealots or something, a few HT's, some stalkers, and warp-in.. While also being able to sit on the Terran production buildings in the main within 5 seconds of the D/C. That game was PartinG's.

GSTL Finals = Completely compromised.


Except most of that was at the middle of the map, which would have allowed two production cycles for mkp, and parting had no money to warp in his own stuff.
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Probasaur
Profile Joined August 2011
United States461 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-08 05:03:02
April 08 2012 05:02 GMT
#9313
It was too back and forth for you to say it was over at any one point. If Parting had disc. when MKP had just taken a huge upswing and was in the lead would it had been over? No, clearly Parting was able to push back. Its called over committing and it happens ALL THE FREAKIN TIME!! If Parting was INSIDE MKP's BASE and he was already camping production, then I wouldn't have an argument and you'd be right.... and guess what MKP would have already GG'd or there would have been no rematch.

BUT that wasn't at all the case. Okay? Okay. Facts people.
"He who makes a beast of himself.... gets rid of the pain of being a man" -Hunter S Thompson.
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
April 08 2012 05:03 GMT
#9314
I would kill for MKP's unit control. If I had one wish that's what I would wish for
JoeSchmoe
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2058 Posts
April 08 2012 05:03 GMT
#9315
On April 08 2012 14:00 Denzil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 13:55 JiPrime wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:52 Denzil wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:49 JiPrime wrote:
You haters can keep talking.
Nothings gonna change.


nothing ever changes, as a football fan who's had to put up with a lot of shit not only for chelsea but for england i understand that
it feels good to vent my frustration there to friends as it does here
this is one of those things that will happen that we will try to eliminate

if you consider the other GSTLs they're all forgotten. but you'll remember this one, it'll be something to talk about something memorable not for the right reasons but still


Oh silly me, I didn't realize that this thread was a public toilet to dispense shit.
I'll just leave you guys here doing your business then.


LR threads have never been anything but a public toilet.

if you were clever you would only briefly browse here during downtime, the amount of retarded comments in a LR thread is unparalleded anywhere else on TL


says the guy who basically lives in this thread. i guess you really like stepping on your own shit?
Enzymatic
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1301 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-08 05:03:54
April 08 2012 05:03 GMT
#9316
On April 08 2012 14:00 AzureD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 13:56 oogieogie wrote:
MKP was easily dead...parting would just have to walk into main, and then sit on production while everything slowly died n use the warp prism to reinforce his army. MKP units can't be microed to death if they die once they come out. (if he didn't have a warp prism or pylon at the end then parting could just move his army across the map)


I just watched the VOD. I am pretty sure MKP would hold it after rewatching it a few times. Most of Parting army was far away at his main. Parting had no money at all and Vikings would kill his Warp Prism in seconds since he had 6 of them which I am certain where very near since they just finished. Since Parting had no money it is likely he just finished a warp in cycle. At the same time MKP was banking hundreds of minerals. Parting mostly had Stalkers near MKP base with very few Zealots.

Also you can't say if any lag that MKP might have been interfering with him at that critical moment as that is the only time MKP suffered so badly.

However no one can say anything unless they watched the replay.


It doesn't matter if MKP has 500000 Minerals, all Parting was going to do was sit on his production buildings in the main and its over. Stop bringing out minerals like it means something at that point, parting had lots of probes, and warp-in, and MKP was down to 3 marauders and having to depend on units from the main (which parting was about to stomp). Last time I checked, Terran can't warp-in units.
"Who hired this awful fountain gunner? He can't hit shit." - Yiss
Leth0
Profile Joined February 2012
856 Posts
April 08 2012 05:03 GMT
#9317
On April 08 2012 13:55 scaban84 wrote:
I seriously wish people saying MKP was dead should stfu. He had a huge bank and crazy production facilities pumping out units. Seriously, stfu.


He had next to nothing banked and people will not "stfu about it" just because it bothers you to hear all the facts supporting why MKP was absolutely dead in that game.
Chaggi
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1936 Posts
April 08 2012 05:03 GMT
#9318
On April 08 2012 13:59 vndods wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 13:59 Denzil wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:54 Femari wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:52 Denzil wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:50 vndods wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:48 Leth0 wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:46 vndods wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:44 Denzil wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:42 vndods wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:41 Denzil wrote:
[quote]

using the already defeated player

Wow you're still posting bullshit lol. On the otherhand, I just took a nice shit.


says the fanboy that said he wasn't going to talk to me anymore

says the antiMKP fan who keeps posting bullshit like MKP lost against Parting.


He didn't just lose to parting, he got dominated by parting. Anyone who knows even a little bit about starcraft knows that. Parting took MKP to school in that game then got robbed by some referee's who were to scared make the right call in front of an audience.

Hm, from what I could tell MKP and Parting were even in the first game, and then MKP spanked him in the second.


60 supply down

the game was even

Doubtful but he might be referring to the game as a whole which was very even with MKP holding a slight lead for 90% of the game.


i've seen demuslim hold advantages all game long against protosses and still lose

Bling v Demuslim on Metropolis at the LSC comes to mind

Now you're comparing MKP to demuslim?


no he's comparing an example of TvP where the Terran holds the advantage for nearly the entire game, takes 1-2 bad storms, and loses.
mrfsy
Profile Joined August 2011
France49 Posts
April 08 2012 05:03 GMT
#9319
On April 08 2012 13:52 MasterKang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 13:31 sc14s wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:21 RJGooner wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:18 sc14s wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:18 MasterKang wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:09 DivinitySC2 wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:07 Femari wrote:
On April 08 2012 13:06 Argolis wrote:
MKP = The first sc2 bonjwa

lol no


lol yes?


lol NO

perhaps on the way but not yet obviously.


Not even close to "on the way". He hasn't even won a GSL yet.

i should quote you for later. If you do not think that MKP is or nearly is the best sc2 player atm.. how can you really argue this? are you blind or just plain dumb? he has beaten DRG twice in a row recently in important matches (current GSL champ) and beat parting tonight and at mlg winter arena (who most would consider #1 PvT in the world right now) not to mention he is in code S and has odds for winning it all.

really? are you one of those BW players with grouchy old man syndrome? "In my day a bonjwa walked uphill in the snow for 10 years before he was considered a bonjwa!"


I think you're just plain dumb. There's a reason why winning the GSL is a requirement for the claim of "best player in the world. IT'S THE HARDEST TOURNAMENT IN THE WORLD. How can one be the best, if you haven't beaten the best in consecutive series in the most prestigious tournament on the earth. Beating DRG, who has been playing like shit, does not automatically make you the "best player in the world".

Omg he beat Parting, the best PvT'er in the world? He also got 2-0'd by JYP, whom some would consider the WORST PvT'er in the Korean scene. Doesn't make much sense for the best sc2 player to lose like that does it? The fact that MKP advanced from his Code S group isn't even that impressive. His wins were against Zenio, who has always been fluctuating between code s and a, and July, who hasn't performed well since his loss to MC in the finals. If MKP had been in the group with Jjakji, Taeja, and theSTC, the chances of him advancing were probably 15-20%.

Until MKP wins the GSL, which every pro sc2 player takes the most seriously and prepares the most for, he is NOT eligible for "Best player in the world"



Totally agree.
Calling a player "best in the world" who never had win GSL title is just a joke...
The GSL title is the achievement for the best of the best, you must own this title if you want be N°1 in the world.
vndods
Profile Joined October 2011
United States3743 Posts
April 08 2012 05:03 GMT
#9320
On April 08 2012 14:03 IMoperator wrote:
I would kill for MKP's unit control. If I had one wish that's what I would wish for

Who wouldn't. I'd love to go mass bio against zerg.
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