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Please have some respect for the players, teams, and tournament.
Criticism is fine, criticism without anything to back it up isn't so cool.
Thanks!
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-25 02:19:37
March 25 2012 02:18 GMT
#8621
On March 25 2012 11:18 Asymmetric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 11:13 ref4 wrote:
I meant no disrespect, but why is Grubby performing so poorly in SC2? I am comparing him to Naniwa both of whom switched from WC3 and both play Protosses. Naniwa have done impossible upsets and came close to taking out the most fearsome Koreans. Grubby just.....iono although he did take out Violet so that was good for him!


Different games, different metas, different times. Grubbys still learning. Give him time.

You'll see the same seemingly odd variance results when brood war pros switch over. Some of them will take to it like a fish out of water and perform amazingly and some of them will be a shadow of there former selves.

He's had MORE than enough time, that's not a valid excuse at all.
Also, "different metas"... ??
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2973 Posts
March 25 2012 02:19 GMT
#8622
So Thorzain's out? Damn, not a good showing for him this MLG. I figure the best result he put up was 2-0'ing MC, then basically getting pummeled by everyone else
"Numbers speak about the past, not the present." -Thorzain
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
March 25 2012 02:19 GMT
#8623
On March 25 2012 11:14 nvs. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 11:12 Hamdemon wrote:
On March 25 2012 11:09 brentsen wrote:
On March 25 2012 11:06 Hamdemon wrote:
On March 25 2012 11:03 nvs. wrote:
...


My point in that being is how does someone justify being a "progamer" in the US? Even most of the top NA players are canadian which has a more generous social program. You either have to be insanely talented enough that 3-4 hours a day of practice is enough to be good enough to profit or you have to have someone willing to fund your ability to practice 8-10 horus a day like koreans do. I'm in the US and I'm in university and work 2 jobs and I'm not saying if I could play 10 hours a day I'd be a top progamer but i'd certainly be a lot better.

I'm pretty sure South Korea doesn't have a very bright welfare system.


But they do have one advantage over the US which is proximity. The US is a much larger country than korea, and most of the SC scene is focused around Seoul. This means you're more likely to find 9 other people willing to live in a small cramped apartment who can all play SC for 8+ hours a day in a team house. Forming a team house in the US isn't impossible but I would argue it's harder. As to why brood war has become a successful "sport" in korea you'd have to answer that for me because I wasn't watching the BW scene at that time, I was busy being a dumb teenager. I would have to do more research but I would believe the level of play generally improved as people were able to spend more time playing.


EG has a teamhouse, but one could argue the results produced have been fairly underwhelming so far.


Sorry, but many teamhouses don't mean crap.
StimMarine
Profile Joined March 2011
723 Posts
March 25 2012 02:19 GMT
#8624
Is it over? Am I too late?
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
March 25 2012 02:19 GMT
#8625
On March 25 2012 11:18 Mycl wrote:
Any updates on the Puma vs Socke game?


Puma just crushed Sockes army. Very close game now, 4base vs 4base.
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
Deleted User 135096
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3624 Posts
March 25 2012 02:19 GMT
#8626
Hope you guys enjoy tomorrow, and I hope I get home in time to catch the finals!
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ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13407 Posts
March 25 2012 02:19 GMT
#8627
Puma is so good that flank and those emps :O
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
Redmark
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2129 Posts
March 25 2012 02:19 GMT
#8628
Good stuff, team Light making a good run this MLG. Too bad Golden had to team kill to get here.
amiGo_O
Profile Joined February 2012
Czech Republic959 Posts
March 25 2012 02:20 GMT
#8629
On March 25 2012 11:19 StimMarine wrote:
Is it over? Am I too late?

last maps are being played, so yes you are late :D
♥ In Loda we trust ♥
HotGlueGun
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1409 Posts
March 25 2012 02:20 GMT
#8630
Wow, 1 mistake vs Puma and its GG
Don't hoot with the Owls at night if you cant soar with the Eagles at dawn.
TheSir
Profile Joined February 2012
1830 Posts
March 25 2012 02:20 GMT
#8631
On March 25 2012 11:16 Whoranzone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 11:13 ref4 wrote:
I meant no disrespect, but why is Grubby performing so poorly in SC2? I am comparing him to Naniwa both of whom switched from WC3 and both play Protosses. Naniwa have done impossible upsets and came close to taking out the most fearsome Koreans. Grubby just.....iono although he did take out Violet so that was good for him!

I don't know if this is just my imagination but nearly always when I see Grubby playing a bo3 I see him playing one fantastic map, one mediocre and an absolute trainwreck. But well he is a fighter I hope he can get his tournament win this year.


Naniwa is playing SC2 much longer then Grubby. Grubby is only playing SC2 for a year basically.
-TesteR-
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1165 Posts
March 25 2012 02:20 GMT
#8632
On March 25 2012 11:15 Badfatpanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 11:13 _Darwin_ wrote:
On March 25 2012 11:12 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On March 25 2012 11:10 Vindicare605 wrote:
On March 25 2012 11:06 Fionn wrote:
Did Grubby play any non-Koreans this tournament? He got pummeled.


I thought SeleCT was american .

SeleCT ended the debate. If you watch his interview he said he is Korean because he just spent the last 3 months training in korea


He also said Huk was Korean.


rofl


I got flamed for 4 pages last time I brought it up but I agree. >.>


Thats because you dont include people like haypro, jinro, desrow, etc as korean even though they are in the same situation >.> only when huk wins he's korean :D
Vallelol
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1046 Posts
March 25 2012 02:20 GMT
#8633
On March 25 2012 11:18 MCDayC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 11:18 Asymmetric wrote:
On March 25 2012 11:13 ref4 wrote:
I meant no disrespect, but why is Grubby performing so poorly in SC2? I am comparing him to Naniwa both of whom switched from WC3 and both play Protosses. Naniwa have done impossible upsets and came close to taking out the most fearsome Koreans. Grubby just.....iono although he did take out Violet so that was good for him!


Different games, different metas, different times. Grubbys still learning. Give him time.

You'll see the same seemingly odd variance results when brood war pros switch over. Some of them will take to it like a fish out of water and perform amazingly and some of them will be a shadow of there former selves.

He's had MORE than enough time, that's not a valid excuse at all.



Just because both played Wc3 does not mean they need to be equally good at sc2, what kind of logic is that?
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
March 25 2012 02:20 GMT
#8634
On March 25 2012 11:19 yoshi245 wrote:
So Thorzain's out? Damn, not a good showing for him this MLG. I figure the best result he put up was 2-0'ing MC, then basically getting pummeled by everyone else


He lost to Ganzi, MKP, Sase, and Crazymoving before losing to Golden.

There isn't a one among them I'm surprised that he lost to except maybe golden and that's only because I don't know him well. His series with Sase was also really close.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Synwave
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2803 Posts
March 25 2012 02:20 GMT
#8635
Great day of entertainment, grats to all the advancing players and thanks to all the people for entertainment.
♥
♞Nerdrage is the cause of global warming♞
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13407 Posts
March 25 2012 02:20 GMT
#8636
Socke really really needs to feedback the medivacs there are 10 of them and thats way too many to let terran have.
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5219 Posts
March 25 2012 02:20 GMT
#8637
Man Terrans are stomping Protoss this tournament.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
March 25 2012 02:20 GMT
#8638
So T-Zain's out? Well poop.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Aemilia
Profile Joined March 2012
344 Posts
March 25 2012 02:21 GMT
#8639
Puma ahead now. Too good in the big engagements.
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
March 25 2012 02:21 GMT
#8640
PUMA! That was a damn sexy engagement, nobody can deny that he doesn't rely on the 1/1/1 to take games, his army control is fantastic
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
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