EPTOn March 25 2012 06:04 Bagration wrote:
That drop killed the twilight council and unpowered how many gates?
That drop killed the twilight council and unpowered how many gates?
5 or 6 gates
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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Mioraka
Canada1353 Posts
"I dont think EG, or any other proteam would willingly give up an advantage like that in such an important match." Sorry, but I just don't agree with this at all. It's just not true. The larger proteams, who have positive management relationships with each other, very rarely, if ever, force forfeits. If Scott from It's Gosu had been present at the event, I seriously doubt this would've happened. We have a great relationship with him and generally, management from different teams look out for each other. One thing we in the EG camp are wondering is, why did WBC wait until after the first map had already been forfeited to go and get Puma? Everyone knew that we were scrambling around, searching for him (because we legitimately didn't know where he'd gone), and then WBC went and found him right away. I think it's fair to ask if WBC knew where he was the entire time, or just happened to find him after the first map was forfeited. It's an unpleasant but fair question. From reddit. I really think Alex Garfield is a scumbag. Did he just accuse the person who WENT AND FOUND HIS PLAYER for him, purposely trying to get his player DQ'ed? If WBC wanted Puma to get DQ'ed, he can just not go find him. What a douchebag for accusing someone who HELPED him. | ||
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JackDT
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Theeakoz
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Dfgj
Singapore5922 Posts
7 GGG P G GGG sort of arrangement | ||
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mememolly
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On March 25 2012 06:01 resilve wrote: Gee, thats a suprise. He should jump on the Day[9] bandwagon while the window is still open, and start a cult of personality to ensure that he doesn't have to actually do anything difficult - like, you know, train or compete at a high level. The question is not "when will he start doing well", but "how many more terrible MLGs can his 'hilarious banter' sustain". yeah he needs to take the easy route and milk his status because he's getting beat by relative no names and can't justify a spot on one of the best teams around, it's actually insane that he is a pro gamer on EG right now when you think about his results | ||
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Mordiford
4448 Posts
On March 25 2012 06:00 RHoudini wrote: Puma obviously wasn't aware of the match, why would you take advantage of this situation? While you could obviously ask for a walk-over, you'd be surprised how much more appreciation you'd have gotten by just playing a normal BO3. Out of sportsmanship, out of respect for your opponent, for the fans and for the tournament organization. Because he's a fucking competitor and Puma is a competitor and they're expected to follow the rules of the competition. Numerous players have been disqualified for being late under MLG's rules, don't blame the guy who shows up on time for not make a concession for the guy who takes his time. People will bitch about shit anyways, if OsToJiY had just all-in'd Puma out over the Bo3, there would still be hate at seeing him fail to perform in Pool Play. Honestly, this goes back to MLG. They should not even ask the player, ever. A player should never have to make a decision that could potentially compromise their place in the competition for this very reason. If Puma was 2 minutes past the late cut-off, OsToJiY should have been given the walkover without even being asked. | ||
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RHoudini
Belgium3627 Posts
On March 25 2012 06:04 Kira__ wrote: which part of disrespecting tournament rules and making your opponent wait, is sportsmanship? Thank you for confirming that you don't understand sportsmanship. | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
Oh I was thinking it was 6 + twilight council GGG P G T GG | ||
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ottersareneat
United States55 Posts
On March 25 2012 05:48 ThE_OsToJiY wrote: Puma was about 20 minutes late and I took a w.o for G1. He was about 10 seconds away from getting a series walkover and wannabecool (my teammate) went and found him and told him he had to play. I did have a choice to make it a full BO3, but it's not like one can expect any different. I dont think EG, or any other proteam would willingly give up an advantage like that in such an important match. I don't think cheesing players better than you is that sad, but obviously I'm not ecstatic about beating him in that way. Game 2 my mouse was glitching so I was tilted and just went all in. "I dont think EG, or any other proteam would willingly give up an advantage like that in such an important match." Sorry, but I just don't agree with this at all. It's just not true. The larger proteams, who have positive management relationships with each other, very rarely, if ever, force forfeits. If Scott from It's Gosu had been present at the event, I seriously doubt this would've happened. He wouldn't have allowed it. We have a great relationship with him and generally, management from different teams look out for each other. One thing we in the EG camp are wondering is, why did WBC wait until after the first map had already been forfeited to go and get Puma? Everyone knew that we were scrambling around, searching for him (because we legitimately didn't know where he'd gone), and then WBC went and found him right away. I think it's fair to ask if WBC knew where he was the entire time, or just happened to find him after the first map was forfeited. It's an unpleasant but fair question. | ||
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m0ck
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On March 25 2012 06:05 Mioraka wrote: ottersareneat From reddit. I really think Alex Garfield is a scumbag. Did he just accuse the person who WENT AND FOUND HIS PLAYER for him, so that his players didn't get completely DQ'ed, for purposely trying to get him DQed? What a dirty fucking accusation. I have to agree, EG keeping it classless! | ||
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synaptik
Canada644 Posts
On March 25 2012 05:48 ThE_OsToJiY wrote: Puma was about 20 minutes late and I took a w.o for G1. He was about 10 seconds away from getting a series walkover and wannabecool (my teammate) went and found him and told him he had to play. I did have a choice to make it a full BO3, but it's not like one can expect any different. I dont think EG, or any other proteam would willingly give up an advantage like that in such an important match. I don't think cheesing players better than you is that sad, but obviously I'm not ecstatic about beating him in that way. Game 2 my mouse was glitching so I was tilted and just went all in. while you did nothing wrong (and i probably would have done the same), know that playing to win and taking any advantage possible is what seperates a competitor from a fan-favourite. | ||
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duk3
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EleanorRIgby
Canada3923 Posts
On March 25 2012 06:05 Mioraka wrote: ottersareneat From reddit. I really think Alex Garfield is a scumbag. Did he just accuse the person who WENT AND FOUND HIS PLAYER for him, so that his players didn't get completely DQ'ed, for purposely trying to get him DQed? What a dirty fucking accusation. wow holy shit garfield is going off the rails lol what is he trying to get at here | ||
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Leth0
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On March 25 2012 06:03 EleanorRIgby wrote: yea its stupid, its EG's fault manage your players and make sure they are not 20 minutes late to a game that could get you in to pools.. If he was 20 minutes late the entire match would of been forfiet, Maybe you should look up the rules. At most puma was between 5-15 minutes late, Instead of manning up and just playing the series Ostojiy took the easy way out. Of course there are gonna be people that give him shit for it, deservedly so IMO. Why not just play the series unless he knew he stood no chance. Now we get stuck watching a subpar player get his ass handed to him in pool play where he doesnt even belong. | ||
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clusen
Germany8702 Posts
On March 25 2012 06:05 JackDT wrote: Letting Puma play a normal best of 3 would have shown exceptional sportsmanship. But taking the win is simply neutral and not deserving of all the hate. Yup, pretty much this. I don't get why this is such a drama, Puma isn't knocked out and it was just a single map. | ||
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Flanq
United Kingdom2694 Posts
EDIT: Can we leave the witch-hunts to reddit and just enjoy the tournament please? There's awesome games going on right now and everyones arguing and taking sides over something very few people actually have the full picture about. Let it die until the full story is out. | ||
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