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Please have some respect for the players, teams, and tournament.
Criticism is fine, criticism without anything to back it up isn't so cool.
Thanks!
corpuscle
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1967 Posts
March 24 2012 18:13 GMT
#2261
On March 25 2012 03:12 Hemula wrote:
Who is Ostojiy? His nickname sounds slavic


He's been doing pretty well at MLG and not much else for a while now. He used to be on sixjax, now on It'sGosu. Probably one of the top 5 American Zergs, not that that's really saying much.
From the void I am born into wave and particle
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
March 24 2012 18:13 GMT
#2262
On March 25 2012 03:12 HaXXspetten wrote:
was that the Cheer Cannon, or am I hallucinating? :o


you'd know if that was the cheer cannon.

That wasn't her, my dog isn't barking.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
jj33
Profile Joined April 2011
802 Posts
March 24 2012 18:13 GMT
#2263
On March 25 2012 03:11 SeventhPride wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 03:10 jj33 wrote:
On March 25 2012 03:08 SeventhPride wrote:
On March 25 2012 03:07 tomatriedes wrote:
On March 25 2012 03:04 SeventhPride wrote:
On March 25 2012 03:02 jj33 wrote:
On March 25 2012 03:01 SeventhPride wrote:
On March 25 2012 02:59 jj33 wrote:
On March 25 2012 02:58 tetracycloide wrote:
On March 25 2012 02:52 jj33 wrote:
[quote]


that wasn't an all in..

Every protoss attack is an 'all-in' from IdrA's perspective...



i know, but I'm sick and tired of people who have this idea, that any aggression is an all in. It's like people just want to see 2 pros agree to do "20 mins no rush" and just collide 200 food armies.

Once again, I will say it, its an agression if he does 7 gate after plunking down his 3rd. JYP actually drop 7 gates and tried to win idra when it failed then he plunk down his 3rd and prayed idra didn't push against his 3rd. watched the replay.


whats your point?

that wasn't an all in by any means.

Do you read the forums? Did you see how many times protoss players complain they can't get a third up? They post the replays I watched it and saw they did a 7 - 8 gate and failed it. This proves its an all in. If you don't plunk a 3rd down before dropping 7 gates, you will NEVER get a 3rd up since you went all out aggression for an early win instead of building up your economy.


Actually vs Stephano style the consensus seems to be that you have to get 7 gates up just to have a chance to hold a third from the roach pressure, so, no, it doesn't always mean an all-in.

Yes thats true, but ONLY if you plunk the 3rd down first before dropping 7 gates. The problem is protoss seems to think that they can attack first and expand later which is not how starcraft works. Expansion should always come first if you are not planning to all in.


um no. Starcraft is a strategy game. Strategy is not exclusive to starcraft. Just because you attack and are aggressive does not mean "all in"

You probably didn't even play bw.

C+ iccup brood war. If you attack and are aggressive WITHOUT expanding then yes its an all in. been the way since brood war. want a game?


alot of people I know are C+ in bw, that's not that impressive, but ok you played bw. good job.

and not it hasn't been like that since bw. what JYP did vs idra was not "all in"

Thrax
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1755 Posts
March 24 2012 18:13 GMT
#2264
On March 25 2012 03:12 jmbthirteen wrote:
wtf Puma? I know your TvZ isn't your strongest match up, but you should 2-0 Ostojy

The issue here wasn't his TvZ, it was his punctuality.
SKYFISH_
Profile Joined April 2011
Bulgaria990 Posts
March 24 2012 18:13 GMT
#2265
gogo sase
In Soviet Terranistan you rush the Zerg
hysterial
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2044 Posts
March 24 2012 18:13 GMT
#2266
On March 25 2012 03:13 Grey8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 03:12 jmbthirteen wrote:
wtf Puma? I know your TvZ isn't your strongest match up, but you should 2-0 Ostojy


I hate this stereotypical bullshit. Why should He 2-0 Ostojy? Just because you know nothing about a player doesn't mean he's bad.


Because its Puma.... This is a major upset.
SeventhPride
Profile Joined February 2012
712 Posts
March 24 2012 18:14 GMT
#2267
On March 25 2012 03:13 Megabuster123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 03:10 tomatriedes wrote:
On March 25 2012 03:08 Megabuster123 wrote:
On March 25 2012 03:07 tomatriedes wrote:
On March 25 2012 03:04 SeventhPride wrote:
On March 25 2012 03:02 jj33 wrote:
On March 25 2012 03:01 SeventhPride wrote:
On March 25 2012 02:59 jj33 wrote:
On March 25 2012 02:58 tetracycloide wrote:
On March 25 2012 02:52 jj33 wrote:
[quote]


that wasn't an all in..

Every protoss attack is an 'all-in' from IdrA's perspective...



i know, but I'm sick and tired of people who have this idea, that any aggression is an all in. It's like people just want to see 2 pros agree to do "20 mins no rush" and just collide 200 food armies.

Once again, I will say it, its an agression if he does 7 gate after plunking down his 3rd. JYP actually drop 7 gates and tried to win idra when it failed then he plunk down his 3rd and prayed idra didn't push against his 3rd. watched the replay.


whats your point?

that wasn't an all in by any means.

Do you read the forums? Did you see how many times protoss players complain they can't get a third up? They post the replays I watched it and saw they did a 7 - 8 gate and failed it. This proves its an all in. If you don't plunk a 3rd down before dropping 7 gates, you will NEVER get a 3rd up since you went all out aggression for an early win instead of building up your economy.


Actually vs Stephano style the consensus seems to be that you have to get 7 gates up just to have a chance to hold a third from the roach pressure, so, no, it doesn't always mean an all-in.

There's no real consensus on how to hold vs the Stephano style. A lot of people are saying you have to take Whitera-esque thirds others are saying to just 2 base all-in against 3 hatch no gas builds.



OK fair enough, consensus was the wrong word, but using 7 gates defensively to hold a third definitely is one of the more promising strats that have been discussed.

Yeah, that's a true statement.

I'm pretty sure JYP went for a 7 gate all-in on Shakuras and just took a 3rd after it failed though. That wasn't a defensive 7 gate. I could be wrong though. Idra just attacked too soon. If he just expanded and tech'd he would've destroyed him.

This is what I have been saying! 7 gate first BEFORE expansion is an all in. I don't get why people assume not expanding is not a all in. That's so stupid!
Moxi
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
708 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-24 18:14:18
March 24 2012 18:14 GMT
#2268
Song?!?!! @free stream (its downtime)
XiGua
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden3085 Posts
March 24 2012 18:14 GMT
#2269
Every game starts on Daybreak?
ლ(ಠ益ಠლ) APM, Why u make me spam?
qoiN
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden576 Posts
March 24 2012 18:14 GMT
#2270
wtf happened with thorzain bling? come on mlg...
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
March 24 2012 18:14 GMT
#2271
Who is NaNiwa playing?
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
betaman
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom355 Posts
March 24 2012 18:14 GMT
#2272
On March 25 2012 03:13 Darpa wrote:
For those of you missing Bling thorzain. For some reason there is a bug that makes some of the qualities of the stream revert to vods.

If you turn you quality to Ultimate thorzain/bling are still playing.



Cheers, god knows why that works tho
warcralft
Profile Joined October 2010
Singapore609 Posts
March 24 2012 18:14 GMT
#2273
I just realise. Kiwikaki isn't playing anymore?
Ruckol1
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada48 Posts
March 24 2012 18:14 GMT
#2274
On March 25 2012 03:11 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 03:10 Ruckol1 wrote:
THis standard quality is atrocious. Any way to adjust it?


Yes, the big "Quality" button might do something about that.

Sweet thanks, thought you had to pay for that too
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
March 24 2012 18:14 GMT
#2275
On March 25 2012 03:14 Torte de Lini wrote:
Who is NaNiwa playing?
TDB, a new up and coming player.
#freeshauni
Darthsanta13
Profile Joined July 2011
United States564 Posts
March 24 2012 18:14 GMT
#2276
What happened in the games between Sheth and KawaiiRice? I'm surprised that he got 2-0'd after beating Polt.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
March 24 2012 18:14 GMT
#2277
On March 25 2012 03:13 hysterial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 03:13 Grey8 wrote:
On March 25 2012 03:12 jmbthirteen wrote:
wtf Puma? I know your TvZ isn't your strongest match up, but you should 2-0 Ostojy


I hate this stereotypical bullshit. Why should He 2-0 Ostojy? Just because you know nothing about a player doesn't mean he's bad.


Because its Puma.... This is a major upset.


It's Puma vs Zerg. Unstable matchup.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
aderum
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden1459 Posts
March 24 2012 18:15 GMT
#2278
So Seth beats Polt 2-0, then loses to Kawairice 2-0 ?? wtf
Crazy people dont sit around and wonder if they are insane
Jean Doe
Profile Joined March 2012
France2 Posts
March 24 2012 18:15 GMT
#2279
Stephano VS Idra :D
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 24 2012 18:15 GMT
#2280
On March 25 2012 03:14 Torte de Lini wrote:
Who is NaNiwa playing?

Dont know yet depends on result of Thorzain vs Bling for pool seeding
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