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Please have some respect for the players, teams, and tournament.
Criticism is fine, criticism without anything to back it up isn't so cool.
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On March 25 2012 03:15 Serotonin1 wrote:Show nested quote +
I'm pretty sure JYP went for a 7 gate all-in on Shakuras and just took a 3rd after it failed though. That wasn't a defensive 7 gate. I could be wrong though. Idra just attacked too soon. If he just expanded and tech'd he would've destroyed him. JYP went for ~5 gate Stargate on Shakura's, you're thinking of the first game.
Oh, yeah that's not all-in at all..>_>
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On March 25 2012 03:15 SeventhPride wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 03:13 jj33 wrote:On March 25 2012 03:11 SeventhPride wrote:On March 25 2012 03:10 jj33 wrote:On March 25 2012 03:08 SeventhPride wrote:On March 25 2012 03:07 tomatriedes wrote:On March 25 2012 03:04 SeventhPride wrote:On March 25 2012 03:02 jj33 wrote:On March 25 2012 03:01 SeventhPride wrote:On March 25 2012 02:59 jj33 wrote:
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i know, but I'm sick and tired of people who have this idea, that any aggression is an all in. It's like people just want to see 2 pros agree to do "20 mins no rush" and just collide 200 food armies. Once again, I will say it, its an agression if he does 7 gate after plunking down his 3rd. JYP actually drop 7 gates and tried to win idra when it failed then he plunk down his 3rd and prayed idra didn't push against his 3rd. watched the replay. whats your point? that wasn't an all in by any means. Do you read the forums? Did you see how many times protoss players complain they can't get a third up? They post the replays I watched it and saw they did a 7 - 8 gate and failed it. This proves its an all in. If you don't plunk a 3rd down before dropping 7 gates, you will NEVER get a 3rd up since you went all out aggression for an early win instead of building up your economy. Actually vs Stephano style the consensus seems to be that you have to get 7 gates up just to have a chance to hold a third from the roach pressure, so, no, it doesn't always mean an all-in. Yes thats true, but ONLY if you plunk the 3rd down first before dropping 7 gates. The problem is protoss seems to think that they can attack first and expand later which is not how starcraft works. Expansion should always come first if you are not planning to all in. um no. Starcraft is a strategy game. Strategy is not exclusive to starcraft. Just because you attack and are aggressive does not mean "all in" You probably didn't even play bw. C+ iccup brood war. If you attack and are aggressive WITHOUT expanding then yes its an all in. been the way since brood war. want a game? alot of people I know are C+ in bw, that's not that impressive, but ok you played bw. good job. and not it hasn't been like that since bw. what JYP did vs idra was not "all in" Do you want to play a game against me or not? No matter what you say, THAT was an all in. You are probably in the minority saying thats not an all in. Learn to play, aggression before expansion is all in. Tip for you, FoC
Lol, how about you stop being a douche flaunting that you are C+ in bw, like that means anything.
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On March 25 2012 03:15 ACrow wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 03:10 Ludwigvan wrote:
hi guys, which vod from yesterday would you recommend me to watch? MKP vs MC was pleasant to watch!
Stephano Polt! G1 and 2 were GREAT 
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Idra vs Stephano...
Mass queen incoming?
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Wait wait wait, Day 9 said beverage lan instead of Red bull Lan is there a competing Energy drink sponsor for MLG?
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On March 25 2012 03:16 0ne wrote:
Naniwa vs TDB so sick!
ahha
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On March 25 2012 03:16 Zebb wrote:
LOL "Beverage training lan"
Hahah gotta love sponsors conflict
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On March 25 2012 03:15 Megabuster123 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 03:15 mprs wrote:On March 25 2012 03:13 corpuscle wrote:On March 25 2012 03:12 Hemula wrote:
Who is Ostojiy? His nickname sounds slavic He's been doing pretty well at MLG and not much else for a while now. He used to be on sixjax, now on It'sGosu. Probably one of the top 5 American Zergs, not that that's really saying much. #1 Canadian Zerg you mean <3 What's his competition? Me?
Slush.
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Day9 cant even say red bull
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Stream 2 is dead? It doesn't seem to load past 03:09:27
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On March 25 2012 03:15 mprs wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 03:13 corpuscle wrote:On March 25 2012 03:12 Hemula wrote:
Who is Ostojiy? His nickname sounds slavic He's been doing pretty well at MLG and not much else for a while now. He used to be on sixjax, now on It'sGosu. Probably one of the top 5 American Zergs, not that that's really saying much. #1 Canadian Zerg you mean <3
Ah, my bad. Not much difference though, if we're honest.
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On March 25 2012 03:13 Grey8 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 03:12 jmbthirteen wrote:
wtf Puma? I know your TvZ isn't your strongest match up, but you should 2-0 Ostojy I hate this stereotypical bullshit. Why should He 2-0 Ostojy? Just because you know nothing about a player doesn't mean he's bad.
How is that stereotyping? I expect the guy who lives in a training house, practising with the best pro's for 8+ hours a day to 2-0 some random guy from the open bracket...
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On March 25 2012 03:16 Jyvblamo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 03:15 Megabuster123 wrote:On March 25 2012 03:15 mprs wrote:On March 25 2012 03:13 corpuscle wrote:On March 25 2012 03:12 Hemula wrote:
Who is Ostojiy? His nickname sounds slavic He's been doing pretty well at MLG and not much else for a while now. He used to be on sixjax, now on It'sGosu. Probably one of the top 5 American Zergs, not that that's really saying much. #1 Canadian Zerg you mean <3 What's his competition? Me? Slush.
I'm from Ontario...we don't count those Quebecers as Canadian around these parts...>_>
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how many streams are there please ?
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They need to show Thorzain games on free streams!
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On March 25 2012 03:16 ZeromuS wrote:
Wait wait wait, Day 9 said beverage lan instead of Red bull Lan is there a competing Energy drink sponsor for MLG?
IIRC, Nos Energy Drink sponsors MLG.
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On March 25 2012 03:16 Fragile51 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 03:15 SeventhPride wrote:On March 25 2012 03:13 jj33 wrote:On March 25 2012 03:11 SeventhPride wrote:On March 25 2012 03:10 jj33 wrote:On March 25 2012 03:08 SeventhPride wrote:On March 25 2012 03:07 tomatriedes wrote:On March 25 2012 03:04 SeventhPride wrote:On March 25 2012 03:02 jj33 wrote:On March 25 2012 03:01 SeventhPride wrote:
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Once again, I will say it, its an agression if he does 7 gate after plunking down his 3rd. JYP actually drop 7 gates and tried to win idra when it failed then he plunk down his 3rd and prayed idra didn't push against his 3rd. watched the replay. whats your point? that wasn't an all in by any means. Do you read the forums? Did you see how many times protoss players complain they can't get a third up? They post the replays I watched it and saw they did a 7 - 8 gate and failed it. This proves its an all in. If you don't plunk a 3rd down before dropping 7 gates, you will NEVER get a 3rd up since you went all out aggression for an early win instead of building up your economy. Actually vs Stephano style the consensus seems to be that you have to get 7 gates up just to have a chance to hold a third from the roach pressure, so, no, it doesn't always mean an all-in. Yes thats true, but ONLY if you plunk the 3rd down first before dropping 7 gates. The problem is protoss seems to think that they can attack first and expand later which is not how starcraft works. Expansion should always come first if you are not planning to all in. um no. Starcraft is a strategy game. Strategy is not exclusive to starcraft. Just because you attack and are aggressive does not mean "all in" You probably didn't even play bw. C+ iccup brood war. If you attack and are aggressive WITHOUT expanding then yes its an all in. been the way since brood war. want a game? alot of people I know are C+ in bw, that's not that impressive, but ok you played bw. good job. and not it hasn't been like that since bw. what JYP did vs idra was not "all in" Do you want to play a game against me or not? No matter what you say, THAT was an all in. You are probably in the minority saying thats not an all in. Learn to play, aggression before expansion is all in. Tip for you, FoC Lol, how about you stop being a douche flaunting that you are C+ in bw, like that means anything.
I didn't even flaunt that , he said I don't play bw and say I am wrong that aggression before expansion is not an all in. Do you agree that 7 gate +1 before expansion is not an all in?
Edit: oh wait, you are protoss. Never mind. And c+ in bw is more impressive then diamond in sc2 btw. I take pride in it.
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On March 25 2012 03:15 Megabuster123 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 03:15 mprs wrote:On March 25 2012 03:13 corpuscle wrote:On March 25 2012 03:12 Hemula wrote:
Who is Ostojiy? His nickname sounds slavic He's been doing pretty well at MLG and not much else for a while now. He used to be on sixjax, now on It'sGosu. Probably one of the top 5 American Zergs, not that that's really saying much. #1 Canadian Zerg you mean <3 What's his competition? Me?
Don´t know, Slush maybe. Btw. , why is he not attending? he was always at MLG´s the last two years.
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On March 25 2012 03:16 Megabuster123 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 03:15 Serotonin1 wrote:
I'm pretty sure JYP went for a 7 gate all-in on Shakuras and just took a 3rd after it failed though. That wasn't a defensive 7 gate. I could be wrong though. Idra just attacked too soon. If he just expanded and tech'd he would've destroyed him. JYP went for ~5 gate Stargate on Shakura's, you're thinking of the first game. Oh, yeah that's not all-in at all..>_>
That's a standard macro build for 3 base Protoss, rofl. Did you not watch Genius play at all last GSL?
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On March 25 2012 03:15 Megabuster123 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 03:13 jj33 wrote:On March 25 2012 03:11 SeventhPride wrote:On March 25 2012 03:10 jj33 wrote:On March 25 2012 03:08 SeventhPride wrote:On March 25 2012 03:07 tomatriedes wrote:On March 25 2012 03:04 SeventhPride wrote:On March 25 2012 03:02 jj33 wrote:On March 25 2012 03:01 SeventhPride wrote:On March 25 2012 02:59 jj33 wrote:
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i know, but I'm sick and tired of people who have this idea, that any aggression is an all in. It's like people just want to see 2 pros agree to do "20 mins no rush" and just collide 200 food armies. Once again, I will say it, its an agression if he does 7 gate after plunking down his 3rd. JYP actually drop 7 gates and tried to win idra when it failed then he plunk down his 3rd and prayed idra didn't push against his 3rd. watched the replay. whats your point? that wasn't an all in by any means. Do you read the forums? Did you see how many times protoss players complain they can't get a third up? They post the replays I watched it and saw they did a 7 - 8 gate and failed it. This proves its an all in. If you don't plunk a 3rd down before dropping 7 gates, you will NEVER get a 3rd up since you went all out aggression for an early win instead of building up your economy. Actually vs Stephano style the consensus seems to be that you have to get 7 gates up just to have a chance to hold a third from the roach pressure, so, no, it doesn't always mean an all-in. Yes thats true, but ONLY if you plunk the 3rd down first before dropping 7 gates. The problem is protoss seems to think that they can attack first and expand later which is not how starcraft works. Expansion should always come first if you are not planning to all in. um no. Starcraft is a strategy game. Strategy is not exclusive to starcraft. Just because you attack and are aggressive does not mean "all in" You probably didn't even play bw. C+ iccup brood war. If you attack and are aggressive WITHOUT expanding then yes its an all in. been the way since brood war. want a game? alot of people I know are C+ in bw, that's not that impressive, but ok you played bw. good job. and not it hasn't been like that since bw. what JYP did vs idra was not "all in" I agree with you on the other shit you were talking about but I think 7 gate +1 before third is all-in and Idra crushed it. JYP only won because Idra counter attacked into a fortified Protoss position.
There's a difference between 'all in' and an attack that puts you behind if it fails and you lose your units.
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