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Please have some respect for the players, teams, and tournament.
Criticism is fine, criticism without anything to back it up isn't so cool.
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On March 25 2012 03:13 jj33 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 03:11 SeventhPride wrote:On March 25 2012 03:10 jj33 wrote:On March 25 2012 03:08 SeventhPride wrote:On March 25 2012 03:07 tomatriedes wrote:On March 25 2012 03:04 SeventhPride wrote:On March 25 2012 03:02 jj33 wrote:On March 25 2012 03:01 SeventhPride wrote:On March 25 2012 02:59 jj33 wrote:On March 25 2012 02:58 tetracycloide wrote:
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Every protoss attack is an 'all-in' from IdrA's perspective... i know, but I'm sick and tired of people who have this idea, that any aggression is an all in. It's like people just want to see 2 pros agree to do "20 mins no rush" and just collide 200 food armies. Once again, I will say it, its an agression if he does 7 gate after plunking down his 3rd. JYP actually drop 7 gates and tried to win idra when it failed then he plunk down his 3rd and prayed idra didn't push against his 3rd. watched the replay. whats your point? that wasn't an all in by any means. Do you read the forums? Did you see how many times protoss players complain they can't get a third up? They post the replays I watched it and saw they did a 7 - 8 gate and failed it. This proves its an all in. If you don't plunk a 3rd down before dropping 7 gates, you will NEVER get a 3rd up since you went all out aggression for an early win instead of building up your economy. Actually vs Stephano style the consensus seems to be that you have to get 7 gates up just to have a chance to hold a third from the roach pressure, so, no, it doesn't always mean an all-in. Yes thats true, but ONLY if you plunk the 3rd down first before dropping 7 gates. The problem is protoss seems to think that they can attack first and expand later which is not how starcraft works. Expansion should always come first if you are not planning to all in. um no. Starcraft is a strategy game. Strategy is not exclusive to starcraft. Just because you attack and are aggressive does not mean "all in" You probably didn't even play bw. C+ iccup brood war. If you attack and are aggressive WITHOUT expanding then yes its an all in. been the way since brood war. want a game? alot of people I know are C+ in bw, that's not that impressive, but ok you played bw. good job. and not it hasn't been like that since bw. what JYP did vs idra was not "all in"
Do you want to play a game against me or not? No matter what you say, THAT was an all in. You are probably in the minority saying thats not an all in. Learn to play, aggression before expansion is all in. Tip for you, FoC
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Did Puma just forfeit or actuallyl ost?
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ThorZaIN 1-1 BlinG, ties it up on entombed
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On March 25 2012 03:13 jj33 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 03:11 SeventhPride wrote:On March 25 2012 03:10 jj33 wrote:On March 25 2012 03:08 SeventhPride wrote:On March 25 2012 03:07 tomatriedes wrote:On March 25 2012 03:04 SeventhPride wrote:On March 25 2012 03:02 jj33 wrote:On March 25 2012 03:01 SeventhPride wrote:On March 25 2012 02:59 jj33 wrote:On March 25 2012 02:58 tetracycloide wrote:
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Every protoss attack is an 'all-in' from IdrA's perspective... i know, but I'm sick and tired of people who have this idea, that any aggression is an all in. It's like people just want to see 2 pros agree to do "20 mins no rush" and just collide 200 food armies. Once again, I will say it, its an agression if he does 7 gate after plunking down his 3rd. JYP actually drop 7 gates and tried to win idra when it failed then he plunk down his 3rd and prayed idra didn't push against his 3rd. watched the replay. whats your point? that wasn't an all in by any means. Do you read the forums? Did you see how many times protoss players complain they can't get a third up? They post the replays I watched it and saw they did a 7 - 8 gate and failed it. This proves its an all in. If you don't plunk a 3rd down before dropping 7 gates, you will NEVER get a 3rd up since you went all out aggression for an early win instead of building up your economy. Actually vs Stephano style the consensus seems to be that you have to get 7 gates up just to have a chance to hold a third from the roach pressure, so, no, it doesn't always mean an all-in. Yes thats true, but ONLY if you plunk the 3rd down first before dropping 7 gates. The problem is protoss seems to think that they can attack first and expand later which is not how starcraft works. Expansion should always come first if you are not planning to all in. um no. Starcraft is a strategy game. Strategy is not exclusive to starcraft. Just because you attack and are aggressive does not mean "all in" You probably didn't even play bw. C+ iccup brood war. If you attack and are aggressive WITHOUT expanding then yes its an all in. been the way since brood war. want a game? alot of people I know are C+ in bw, that's not that impressive, but ok you played bw. good job. and not it hasn't been like that since bw. what JYP did vs idra was not "all in"
I agree with you on the other shit you were talking about but I think 7 gate +1 before third is all-in and Idra crushed it. JYP only won because Idra counter attacked into a fortified Protoss position.
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On March 25 2012 03:13 corpuscle wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 03:12 Hemula wrote:
Who is Ostojiy? His nickname sounds slavic He's been doing pretty well at MLG and not much else for a while now. He used to be on sixjax, now on It'sGosu. Probably one of the top 5 American Zergs, not that that's really saying much.
#1 Canadian Zerg you mean <3
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Ostojiy got one of the wins for free because Puma was late to the match
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Wow, some foreigners fought back today. I was so pessimistic yesterday, so glad I was wrong. Too bad for Sheth though 
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On March 25 2012 03:13 Darpa wrote:
For those of you missing Bling thorzain. For some reason there is a bug that makes some of the qualities of the stream revert to vods.
If you turn you quality to Ultimate thorzain/bling are still playing.
THANK YOU for this! I thought I was going crazy!
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On March 25 2012 03:10 Ludwigvan wrote:
hi guys, which vod from yesterday would you recommend me to watch?
MKP vs MC was pleasant to watch!
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On March 25 2012 03:15 Torte de Lini wrote:
Did Puma just forfeit or actuallyl ost?
... It's been stated at least 10x in this thread, he forfeit G1, won G2 and lost G3
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On March 25 2012 03:13 Thrax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 03:12 jmbthirteen wrote:
wtf Puma? I know your TvZ isn't your strongest match up, but you should 2-0 Ostojy The issue here wasn't his TvZ, it was his punctuality.
oh really? did he miss the first game? Cause it says it was 2-1.
EDIT: ah i see now. damnit Puma! Scoots, I blame you. Get my Puma there on time!
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On March 25 2012 03:14 qoiN wrote:
wtf happened with thorzain bling? come on mlg...
Yeah....
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CrazyMoving, any relation to CrazyHydra? ;P
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I'm pretty sure JYP went for a 7 gate all-in on Shakuras and just took a 3rd after it failed though. That wasn't a defensive 7 gate. I could be wrong though. Idra just attacked too soon. If he just expanded and tech'd he would've destroyed him.
JYP went for ~5 gate Stargate on Shakura's, you're thinking of the first game.
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On March 25 2012 03:15 mprs wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 03:13 corpuscle wrote:On March 25 2012 03:12 Hemula wrote:
Who is Ostojiy? His nickname sounds slavic He's been doing pretty well at MLG and not much else for a while now. He used to be on sixjax, now on It'sGosu. Probably one of the top 5 American Zergs, not that that's really saying much. #1 Canadian Zerg you mean <3
What's his competition? Me?
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On March 25 2012 03:15 Torte de Lini wrote:
Did Puma just forfeit or actuallyl ost?
He was late and started one game down in a BO3...
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On March 25 2012 03:14 Moxi wrote:
Song?!?!! @free stream (its downtime)
i think it's broken, audio is just some random wubly stuff instead of, as i guess, downtime music
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LOL "Beverage training lan"
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EPT
