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On March 07 2012 19:15 Tump wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 19:13 Jono7272 wrote:On March 07 2012 19:11 Tump wrote:On March 07 2012 19:09 doffe wrote:
ridicolously unfair and silly play by Feast imo... 14min no obs wtf? Really dont like these builds that say, "hope he doesnt get banshee cause then I lose". And tbh, if Feast saw the replay of the game before he should have had given that to Kas. Thats just good sportmanship.
Uh... Feast read his build and knew he was going bio. Do you even know how competitive Starcraft is played? Or anything about it? Why would you get an Observer when you KNOW you don't need it. Feast was adjusting his build to cut corners. That's what good players constantly do day in and day out. He didn't scout anything past the bunker. He knew nothing. Uh are you serious? The bunker is a tell that you're going for 1 rax command center into bio. It could be a bluff, going for some kind 1-1-1 on one or two bases, but he can scout that with a Stalker. Kas JUST DID the same exact build on the same map before the disconnect. Players tend to not change because they prepare a specific build for a specific map and matchup. You're a dolt.
Lol. You can go 1 rax cc, into double gas, into banshees. He didn't know. He made a good guess.
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On March 07 2012 19:13 doffe wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 19:10 Severian wrote:On March 07 2012 19:09 doffe wrote:
ridicolously unfair and silly play by Feast imo... 14min no obs wtf? Really dont like these builds that say, "hope he doesnt get banshee cause then I lose". And tbh, if Feast saw the replay of the game before he should have had given that to Kas. Thats just good sportmanship.
Did you watch game 1? yes, so? Kas totally deserved to lose that game, your comment is pointless since I never said that Kas did NOT play silly greedy game 1.. I even think I commented similarily towards Kas after that game. There should not have been a regame, a true sportsman sees that hes way behind and should not be awarded a regame just cause his comp crashed... its not fair, not even close.
You accuse Feast of being unfair ? The guy who gave DeMuslim his compo after someone whisped DeMuslim's build ? Who got nerves. Still it's not about being fair, it's about winning. Sure it's fortunate for Feast but he didn't cheat in the 3rd game.
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cmon idra don't go 0-5 here!!!
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Terran is really hard to play,it requires excellent micro that's why there aren't any top level foreigner terrans.
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On March 07 2012 19:18 JJH777 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 19:16 ftd.rain wrote:On March 07 2012 19:14 JJH777 wrote:On March 07 2012 19:12 Terminal wrote:On March 07 2012 19:11 ZenithM wrote:On March 07 2012 19:08 Megabuster123 wrote:On March 07 2012 19:05 xrapture wrote:On March 07 2012 19:02 Mentalizor wrote:On March 07 2012 19:01 EmilA wrote:
Prediction: All foreign terrans end last in their groups (Kas perhaps second last to Idra.) Due to the fact, you've got a terran portrait, I think I can smell some Terran bias here... Comments on MMA going 10-0? yes, you're right. Another Korean Terran victory in dominating fashion will prove that all of us Terran players problems with Terran are stupid and Terran needs another nerf. So what a foreign Terran hasnt won a major live event in the last 1.5 years, have you seen the GSL? So Foreign Terrans just suck? Yep, I'm sorry, but as unfounded as the "Protoss players are just bad" claims were when every Protoss on the planet was doing bad, I'll say it now: foreigner Terrans are just bad. Why? Because there happens to exist good Terrans, that's why. So foreign Terran's essentially have to be the best players in the world just to win games? Sounds pretty dumb to me. It isn't just the best Korean Terrans that win games. Korea has been very Terran dominated at Code B, Code A, and Code S levels for a long time now. That's a blatant lie and I'm not gonna waste my time pulling all the stats here, but please stop lying. Umm what? How is it a blatant lie. Like 4 of the Code A finals have been TvT. There was once 20 Terrans in Code S. It is NOT just a few good Terrans winning games.
well its pretty common knowledge that most Koreans picked terran as well as the most skilled
also the multitasking required to play terran at the top level is really hard compared to z/p, especially p.
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On March 07 2012 19:12 Terminal wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 19:11 ZenithM wrote:On March 07 2012 19:08 Megabuster123 wrote:On March 07 2012 19:05 xrapture wrote:On March 07 2012 19:02 Mentalizor wrote:On March 07 2012 19:01 EmilA wrote:
Prediction: All foreign terrans end last in their groups (Kas perhaps second last to Idra.) Due to the fact, you've got a terran portrait, I think I can smell some Terran bias here... Comments on MMA going 10-0? yes, you're right. Another Korean Terran victory in dominating fashion will prove that all of us Terran players problems with Terran are stupid and Terran needs another nerf. So what a foreign Terran hasnt won a major live event in the last 1.5 years, have you seen the GSL? So Foreign Terrans just suck? Yep, I'm sorry, but as unfounded as the "Protoss players are just bad" claims were when every Protoss on the planet was doing bad, I'll say it now: foreigner Terrans are just bad. Why? Because there happens to exist good Terrans, that's why. So foreign Terran's essentially have to be the best players in the world just to win games? Sounds pretty dumb to me.
We actually don't know if Korean Terrans are much better than their P/Z counterparts. Is any Terran better than DRG at the game? I have a hard time believing it.
You just have to play the race as Koreans play it if you want to win games, not turtle for 15 minutes like Europeans do. Obviously it's going to favor P and Z in this case.
I'm not saying it's fair that Terran seems unhandable by foreigners, but it's not like they can't improve at the game. Other Terrans are good. They're Korean, but they're still human like them.
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On March 07 2012 19:15 huehuehuehue wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 19:15 Megabuster123 wrote:On March 07 2012 19:12 mordk wrote:On March 07 2012 19:08 Megabuster123 wrote:On March 07 2012 19:05 xrapture wrote:On March 07 2012 19:02 Mentalizor wrote:On March 07 2012 19:01 EmilA wrote:
Prediction: All foreign terrans end last in their groups (Kas perhaps second last to Idra.) Due to the fact, you've got a terran portrait, I think I can smell some Terran bias here... Comments on MMA going 10-0? yes, you're right. Another Korean Terran victory in dominating fashion will prove that all of us Terran players problems with Terran are stupid and Terran needs another nerf. So what a foreign Terran hasnt won a major live event in the last 1.5 years, have you seen the GSL? So Foreign Terrans just suck? Mostly yes, at least when compared to koreans. Thorzain and Kas have shown promise though. Foreign terrans seem to only be able to macro or pull of the effective aggressive builds. Korean terrans tend to do both. Kas and Thorzain sort of represent that. Kas can macro, but his aggression is non-existent and it's not like he's got particularly amazing micro. Whereas Thorzaine has really tight builds, and can all-in at any point really keeping you guessing but his macro isn't anything special either. Agression is nonexistant? Have you watched him play TvZ?
Yeah, pushing isn't the same as the constant aggression of most TvZ specialists in Korea with over 70% winrates. Like Ganzi, Gumiho, MMA. They don't let you breath with constant harass, then they hit with huge macro'd pushes.
Not to mention how passive Kas's TvP is.
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Having commercials on the HD stream sucks :S
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Select is floating so much money
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Idra is getting no love here with the map selections lol
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Goooo IdrA! RELEASE THE GRACKEN!
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go watch dimaga vs select. dimaga may take the first map-
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On March 07 2012 19:18 Jono7272 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 19:15 Tump wrote:On March 07 2012 19:13 Jono7272 wrote:On March 07 2012 19:11 Tump wrote:On March 07 2012 19:09 doffe wrote:
ridicolously unfair and silly play by Feast imo... 14min no obs wtf? Really dont like these builds that say, "hope he doesnt get banshee cause then I lose". And tbh, if Feast saw the replay of the game before he should have had given that to Kas. Thats just good sportmanship.
Uh... Feast read his build and knew he was going bio. Do you even know how competitive Starcraft is played? Or anything about it? Why would you get an Observer when you KNOW you don't need it. Feast was adjusting his build to cut corners. That's what good players constantly do day in and day out. He didn't scout anything past the bunker. He knew nothing. Uh are you serious? The bunker is a tell that you're going for 1 rax command center into bio. It could be a bluff, going for some kind 1-1-1 on one or two bases, but he can scout that with a Stalker. Kas JUST DID the same exact build on the same map before the disconnect. Players tend to not change because they prepare a specific build for a specific map and matchup. You're a dolt. Lol. You can go 1 rax cc, into double gas, into banshees. He didn't know. He made a good guess.
You realize everyone does this right? A player scouts a nexus being built, they assume that their opponent is expanding. The opponent can then expand, or cancel the nexus and go all in. The player that scouted the nexus has to guess what will happen, since he can't know for sure. This happens pretty much every game. You make educated guesses to get ahead of your opponent based on things you scout.
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Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
This WILL be an improvement from games vs Real i gurantee you! However no saying he will win though...But i have feeling he will go Muti this time
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On March 07 2012 19:20 Mycl wrote:
Idra is getting no love here with the map selections lol
Daybreak is bad?
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On March 07 2012 19:16 89andy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2012 19:13 doffe wrote:On March 07 2012 19:10 Severian wrote:On March 07 2012 19:09 doffe wrote:
ridicolously unfair and silly play by Feast imo... 14min no obs wtf? Really dont like these builds that say, "hope he doesnt get banshee cause then I lose". And tbh, if Feast saw the replay of the game before he should have had given that to Kas. Thats just good sportmanship.
Did you watch game 1? yes, so? Kas totally deserved to lose that game, your comment is pointless since I never said that Kas did NOT play silly greedy game 1.. I even think I commented similarily towards Kas after that game. There should not have been a regame, a true sportsman sees that hes way behind and should not be awarded a regame just cause his comp crashed... its not fair, not even close. for all this shit talk towards idra, he actually is honourable. He conceded a game against TLO in MLG when he got DC'ed he said he didn't have much chance anyway and conceded. This was right after he got 2 rax'd all in'd for the second time from TLO.
Then I applaud IdrA in that situation, thats how it should be done. I somewhat understand players taking all the chances they can to win but when you clearly should recognize that you are far far far behind and dont concede, well, I atleast wont root for you. =)
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If Idra loses this one, he's not going to win a single map in this tournament.
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If idra does some retarded build or goes mass muta vs a phoenix opening im going to be so annoyed.
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On March 07 2012 19:20 Mycl wrote:
Idra is getting no love here with the map selections lol
Does Idra get ANY love anymore? He seems to have almost completely fallen from grace these few months...
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Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On March 07 2012 19:19 QualityTV wrote:
Having commercials on the HD stream sucks :S
Yeah i here you! Bloody german too! Ahaha
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