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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
March 07 2012 10:14 GMT
#761
On March 07 2012 19:13 BuzZoo wrote:
Can someone tell me if Idra vs Feast is next on main stream?


Yes. It will be, not sure if there going to wait 5/10 minutes for Feast to get set not sure as he just finished.
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DifuntO
Profile Joined November 2011
Greece2376 Posts
March 07 2012 10:15 GMT
#762
IdrA vs Feast now,0-2 easily
All I do is Stim.
Megabuster123
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada1837 Posts
March 07 2012 10:15 GMT
#763
On March 07 2012 19:12 mordk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 19:08 Megabuster123 wrote:
On March 07 2012 19:05 xrapture wrote:
On March 07 2012 19:02 Mentalizor wrote:
On March 07 2012 19:01 EmilA wrote:
Prediction: All foreign terrans end last in their groups (Kas perhaps second last to Idra.)


Due to the fact, you've got a terran portrait, I think I can smell some Terran bias here... Comments on MMA going 10-0?


yes, you're right. Another Korean Terran victory in dominating fashion will prove that all of us Terran players problems with Terran are stupid and Terran needs another nerf.

So what a foreign Terran hasnt won a major live event in the last 1.5 years, have you seen the GSL?

So Foreign Terrans just suck?

Mostly yes, at least when compared to koreans. Thorzain and Kas have shown promise though.

Foreign terrans seem to only be able to macro or pull of the effective aggressive builds. Korean terrans tend to do both.
Kas and Thorzain sort of represent that. Kas can macro, but his aggression is non-existent and it's not like he's got particularly amazing micro. Whereas Thorzaine has really tight builds, and can all-in at any point really keeping you guessing but his macro isn't anything special either.
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
March 07 2012 10:15 GMT
#764
On March 07 2012 19:12 Terminal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 19:11 ZenithM wrote:
On March 07 2012 19:08 Megabuster123 wrote:
On March 07 2012 19:05 xrapture wrote:
On March 07 2012 19:02 Mentalizor wrote:
On March 07 2012 19:01 EmilA wrote:
Prediction: All foreign terrans end last in their groups (Kas perhaps second last to Idra.)


Due to the fact, you've got a terran portrait, I think I can smell some Terran bias here... Comments on MMA going 10-0?


yes, you're right. Another Korean Terran victory in dominating fashion will prove that all of us Terran players problems with Terran are stupid and Terran needs another nerf.

So what a foreign Terran hasnt won a major live event in the last 1.5 years, have you seen the GSL?

So Foreign Terrans just suck?


Yep, I'm sorry, but as unfounded as the "Protoss players are just bad" claims were when every Protoss on the planet was doing bad, I'll say it now: foreigner Terrans are just bad.
Why?
Because there happens to exist good Terrans, that's why.

So foreign Terran's essentially have to be the best players in the world just to win games? Sounds pretty dumb to me.


He is not saying that.

Look at select, he is good and is not winning everything.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
March 07 2012 10:15 GMT
#765
On March 07 2012 19:13 nath wrote:
@tump:
feast 100% abused kas, intelligently, BUT in a way that could ONLY be done due to the previous game disconnecting.

he couldnt have cut all the corners that he did (and he didnt in their previous game on the same map) had he not played and lost the previous game, only to have his pc crap out and get a free 2nd try.

That's called mind game. Kas could have changed his build but he didn't. So he lost to an 2 base timing.
Arco
Profile Joined September 2009
United States2090 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 10:16:30
March 07 2012 10:15 GMT
#766
On March 07 2012 19:13 Jono7272 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 19:11 Tump wrote:
On March 07 2012 19:09 doffe wrote:
ridicolously unfair and silly play by Feast imo... 14min no obs wtf? Really dont like these builds that say, "hope he doesnt get banshee cause then I lose". And tbh, if Feast saw the replay of the game before he should have had given that to Kas. Thats just good sportmanship.


Uh... Feast read his build and knew he was going bio.

Do you even know how competitive Starcraft is played? Or anything about it?

Why would you get an Observer when you KNOW you don't need it. Feast was adjusting his build to cut corners. That's what good players constantly do day in and day out.

He didn't scout anything past the bunker. He knew nothing.

Uh are you serious? The bunker is a tell that you're going for 1 rax command center into bio. It could be a bluff, going for some kind 1-1-1 on one or two bases, but he can scout that with a Stalker. Kas JUST DID the same exact build on the same map before the disconnect. Players tend to not change because they prepare a specific build for a specific map and matchup.

You're a dolt.
huehuehuehue
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Estonia455 Posts
March 07 2012 10:15 GMT
#767
On March 07 2012 19:15 Megabuster123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 19:12 mordk wrote:
On March 07 2012 19:08 Megabuster123 wrote:
On March 07 2012 19:05 xrapture wrote:
On March 07 2012 19:02 Mentalizor wrote:
On March 07 2012 19:01 EmilA wrote:
Prediction: All foreign terrans end last in their groups (Kas perhaps second last to Idra.)


Due to the fact, you've got a terran portrait, I think I can smell some Terran bias here... Comments on MMA going 10-0?


yes, you're right. Another Korean Terran victory in dominating fashion will prove that all of us Terran players problems with Terran are stupid and Terran needs another nerf.

So what a foreign Terran hasnt won a major live event in the last 1.5 years, have you seen the GSL?

So Foreign Terrans just suck?

Mostly yes, at least when compared to koreans. Thorzain and Kas have shown promise though.

Foreign terrans seem to only be able to macro or pull of the effective aggressive builds. Korean terrans tend to do both.
Kas and Thorzain sort of represent that. Kas can macro, but his aggression is non-existent and it's not like he's got particularly amazing micro. Whereas Thorzaine has really tight builds, and can all-in at any point really keeping you guessing but his macro isn't anything special either.

Agression is nonexistant? Have you watched him play TvZ?
BuzZoo
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1468 Posts
March 07 2012 10:15 GMT
#768
On March 07 2012 19:14 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 19:13 BuzZoo wrote:
Can someone tell me if Idra vs Feast is next on main stream?


Yes. It will be, not sure if there going to wait 5/10 minutes for Feast to get set not sure as he just finished.


Thank you very much!
89andy
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada192 Posts
March 07 2012 10:16 GMT
#769
On March 07 2012 19:13 doffe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 19:10 Severian wrote:
On March 07 2012 19:09 doffe wrote:
ridicolously unfair and silly play by Feast imo... 14min no obs wtf? Really dont like these builds that say, "hope he doesnt get banshee cause then I lose". And tbh, if Feast saw the replay of the game before he should have had given that to Kas. Thats just good sportmanship.


Did you watch game 1?


yes, so? Kas totally deserved to lose that game, your comment is pointless since I never said that Kas did NOT play silly greedy game 1.. I even think I commented similarily towards Kas after that game.

There should not have been a regame, a true sportsman sees that hes way behind and should not be awarded a regame just cause his comp crashed... its not fair, not even close.



for all this shit talk towards idra, he actually is honourable. He conceded a game against TLO in MLG when he got DC'ed he said he didn't have much chance anyway and conceded. This was right after he got 2 rax'd all in'd for the second time from TLO.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
March 07 2012 10:16 GMT
#770
On March 07 2012 19:14 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 19:13 Jono7272 wrote:
On March 07 2012 19:11 Tump wrote:
On March 07 2012 19:09 doffe wrote:
ridicolously unfair and silly play by Feast imo... 14min no obs wtf? Really dont like these builds that say, "hope he doesnt get banshee cause then I lose". And tbh, if Feast saw the replay of the game before he should have had given that to Kas. Thats just good sportmanship.


Uh... Feast read his build and knew he was going bio.

Do you even know how competitive Starcraft is played? Or anything about it?

Why would you get an Observer when you KNOW you don't need it. Feast was adjusting his build to cut corners. That's what good players constantly do day in and day out.

He didn't scout anything past the bunker. He knew nothing.


He made educated guesses based upon seeing his style of play. Seriously, when have you ever seen Kas go for a cheese or cloaked banshees in TvP?




Kinda not macro oriented.
Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
March 07 2012 10:16 GMT
#771
On March 07 2012 19:14 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 19:13 Jono7272 wrote:
On March 07 2012 19:11 Tump wrote:
On March 07 2012 19:09 doffe wrote:
ridicolously unfair and silly play by Feast imo... 14min no obs wtf? Really dont like these builds that say, "hope he doesnt get banshee cause then I lose". And tbh, if Feast saw the replay of the game before he should have had given that to Kas. Thats just good sportmanship.


Uh... Feast read his build and knew he was going bio.

Do you even know how competitive Starcraft is played? Or anything about it?

Why would you get an Observer when you KNOW you don't need it. Feast was adjusting his build to cut corners. That's what good players constantly do day in and day out.

He didn't scout anything past the bunker. He knew nothing.


He made educated guesses based upon seeing his style of play. Seriously, when have you ever seen Kas go for a cheese or cloaked banshees in TvP?

I know. But he didn't KNOW anything for sure. It was risky. And Kas does mix it up sometimes.
Innovation | Flash | Mvp | Byun | TY
ftd.rain
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom539 Posts
March 07 2012 10:16 GMT
#772
On March 07 2012 19:14 JJH777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 19:12 Terminal wrote:
On March 07 2012 19:11 ZenithM wrote:
On March 07 2012 19:08 Megabuster123 wrote:
On March 07 2012 19:05 xrapture wrote:
On March 07 2012 19:02 Mentalizor wrote:
On March 07 2012 19:01 EmilA wrote:
Prediction: All foreign terrans end last in their groups (Kas perhaps second last to Idra.)


Due to the fact, you've got a terran portrait, I think I can smell some Terran bias here... Comments on MMA going 10-0?


yes, you're right. Another Korean Terran victory in dominating fashion will prove that all of us Terran players problems with Terran are stupid and Terran needs another nerf.

So what a foreign Terran hasnt won a major live event in the last 1.5 years, have you seen the GSL?

So Foreign Terrans just suck?


Yep, I'm sorry, but as unfounded as the "Protoss players are just bad" claims were when every Protoss on the planet was doing bad, I'll say it now: foreigner Terrans are just bad.
Why?
Because there happens to exist good Terrans, that's why.

So foreign Terran's essentially have to be the best players in the world just to win games? Sounds pretty dumb to me.


It isn't just the best Korean Terrans that win games. Korea has been very Terran dominated at Code B, Code A, and Code S levels for a long time now.

That's a blatant lie and I'm not gonna waste my time pulling all the stats here, but please stop lying.
EmilA
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark4618 Posts
March 07 2012 10:16 GMT
#773
On March 07 2012 19:02 Mentalizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 19:01 EmilA wrote:
Prediction: All foreign terrans end last in their groups (Kas perhaps second last to Idra.)


Due to the fact, you've got a terran portrait, I think I can smell some Terran bias here... Comments on MMA going 10-0?


Not following. I think MMA will shit all over all competition so badly.
http://dotabuff.com/players/122305951 playing other games
Arco
Profile Joined September 2009
United States2090 Posts
March 07 2012 10:16 GMT
#774
Jono confirmed angry Terran. Lol
Megabuster123
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada1837 Posts
March 07 2012 10:17 GMT
#775
On March 07 2012 19:12 Terminal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 19:11 ZenithM wrote:
On March 07 2012 19:08 Megabuster123 wrote:
On March 07 2012 19:05 xrapture wrote:
On March 07 2012 19:02 Mentalizor wrote:
On March 07 2012 19:01 EmilA wrote:
Prediction: All foreign terrans end last in their groups (Kas perhaps second last to Idra.)


Due to the fact, you've got a terran portrait, I think I can smell some Terran bias here... Comments on MMA going 10-0?


yes, you're right. Another Korean Terran victory in dominating fashion will prove that all of us Terran players problems with Terran are stupid and Terran needs another nerf.

So what a foreign Terran hasnt won a major live event in the last 1.5 years, have you seen the GSL?

So Foreign Terrans just suck?


Yep, I'm sorry, but as unfounded as the "Protoss players are just bad" claims were when every Protoss on the planet was doing bad, I'll say it now: foreigner Terrans are just bad.
Why?
Because there happens to exist good Terrans, that's why.

So foreign Terran's essentially have to be the best players in the world just to win games? Sounds pretty dumb to me.

They need to be the best players to win tournaments, yeah...>_>

Terran isn't underpowered, foreigners just generally tend to be too shitty to play the race properly at it's most base level.
teamamerica
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States958 Posts
March 07 2012 10:17 GMT
#776
On March 07 2012 19:08 Megabuster123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 19:05 xrapture wrote:
On March 07 2012 19:02 Mentalizor wrote:
On March 07 2012 19:01 EmilA wrote:
Prediction: All foreign terrans end last in their groups (Kas perhaps second last to Idra.)


Due to the fact, you've got a terran portrait, I think I can smell some Terran bias here... Comments on MMA going 10-0?


yes, you're right. Another Korean Terran victory in dominating fashion will prove that all of us Terran players problems with Terran are stupid and Terran needs another nerf.

So what a foreign Terran hasnt won a major live event in the last 1.5 years, have you seen the GSL?

So Foreign Terrans just suck?


Wtf so Fruitdealer and Nestea were winning and other zergs were losing does that mean every other zerg just sucked? Cause I'd like some explanations on the last 10 patches? Saying every foreign Terran sucks is just stupid, I can make an argument when Terrans were winning a ton that every player of every other race sucks? All the same Kas doesn't seem to have a good grasp on TvP. I mean his super fast 3 cc into no attack seemed to not open a lot of timings he should have had in game one after opening so greedly vs such an aggressive Feast opening that did nothing. He had +60 supply but it was bio with no tech (although if a toss is +60 supply chargelots no tech just saying...) so even though he had a pretty big lead in game 3, it was still loseable. His medivacs were so late and his ghosts even later so Feasts chargelot and fast archons is super super strong vs that.
RIP GOMTV. RIP PROLEAGUE.
Arco
Profile Joined September 2009
United States2090 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-07 10:19:24
March 07 2012 10:17 GMT
#777
On March 07 2012 19:15 Otolia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 19:13 nath wrote:
@tump:
feast 100% abused kas, intelligently, BUT in a way that could ONLY be done due to the previous game disconnecting.

he couldnt have cut all the corners that he did (and he didnt in their previous game on the same map) had he not played and lost the previous game, only to have his pc crap out and get a free 2nd try.

That's called mind game. Kas could have changed his build but he didn't. So he lost to an 2 base timing.

He already cut corners in the disconnect game, did you watch it?

Arguably he cut different corners in the reconnect game by going earlier Forges, which means a faster Cannon if he needed. The only thing he abused was slower Charge because he knew Dropships wouldn't be out. It wasn't even a matter of detection.

Whiners gonna whine.
DoubleB
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany870 Posts
March 07 2012 10:17 GMT
#778
Wow, Dimaga let Select look like a noob :O
Wroshe
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands1051 Posts
March 07 2012 10:18 GMT
#779
Can't wait for IdrA-Feast. Should be a quick and easy 2-0 for Feast.
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4418 Posts
March 07 2012 10:18 GMT
#780
On March 07 2012 19:16 ftd.rain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 19:14 JJH777 wrote:
On March 07 2012 19:12 Terminal wrote:
On March 07 2012 19:11 ZenithM wrote:
On March 07 2012 19:08 Megabuster123 wrote:
On March 07 2012 19:05 xrapture wrote:
On March 07 2012 19:02 Mentalizor wrote:
On March 07 2012 19:01 EmilA wrote:
Prediction: All foreign terrans end last in their groups (Kas perhaps second last to Idra.)


Due to the fact, you've got a terran portrait, I think I can smell some Terran bias here... Comments on MMA going 10-0?


yes, you're right. Another Korean Terran victory in dominating fashion will prove that all of us Terran players problems with Terran are stupid and Terran needs another nerf.

So what a foreign Terran hasnt won a major live event in the last 1.5 years, have you seen the GSL?

So Foreign Terrans just suck?


Yep, I'm sorry, but as unfounded as the "Protoss players are just bad" claims were when every Protoss on the planet was doing bad, I'll say it now: foreigner Terrans are just bad.
Why?
Because there happens to exist good Terrans, that's why.

So foreign Terran's essentially have to be the best players in the world just to win games? Sounds pretty dumb to me.


It isn't just the best Korean Terrans that win games. Korea has been very Terran dominated at Code B, Code A, and Code S levels for a long time now.

That's a blatant lie and I'm not gonna waste my time pulling all the stats here, but please stop lying.


Umm what? How is it a blatant lie. Like 4 of the Code A finals have been TvT. There was once 20 Terrans in Code S. It is NOT just a few good Terrans winning games.
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